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Batman vs Superman: World's Finest Three-Year Wait
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Razgriz-Specter
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We have had them since Friday in my part of Alabama.
Stupid Dr Pepper Cherry doesn't sell for craps though so still waiting on Wonder Woman.
Rich white Americans joking and patting each other on their backs after extracting themselves from a failed intervention exercise that totally fucked up a third world country? Sounds like real life to me.
Can Crusher
Banned
So... it's saying there's more interest for Deadpool than Batman V Superman, and that there's more than 6x more interest for suicide squad than... Batman V Superman.
This is meaningless shit.
It means very little and a lot.
I mean it means there's a buzz around the movies, which is good.
But yeah these metrics sometimes only take into account engagement... not whether positive, negative or mixed.
Well when you put it that way...
Messypandas
Member
Seems like folks were kind enough to share the prequel comics
Lois Lane
Batman
Senator Finch
Superman
Lex Luthor
Lois Lane
Batman
Senator Finch
Superman
Lex Luthor
Messypandas
Member
The Superman and Luthor ones are great, really lay into some interesting themes going into this film.
Schweinehund
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Atleast we can hide behind the fact we'll be an international team with WW & Aquaman
.Curious if the code is only $5 off one ticket or multiple tickets for the same order. MIght pick up some if it's the latter.
Ehh, thats too much suspension of disbelief for me. That's like buying into only dozens of people dying in the wayne tower collapse. All those mini utron robots running around wrecking shit and the quinjet, there's also hulk killing people in fictional African country.
Actually liked the Senator Finch one, but yeah they all seem to drive home two key points
-Kryptonian tech is out in the world
-This will be a movie about how the world views and reacts to Superman.
Short interview with Zack
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/hall_o...superman-dawn-of-justice-director-zack-snyder
Some quick takeaways
The movie is pretty much done (some 3D shots waiting on)
The movie focuses on Batman and Superman (Wonder Woman has a role, the rest are essentially cameos)
He has a respect for the TV-verse, but sees it as DC's multiverse. Acknowledges that there is really no "definitive" version of these characters.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/hall_o...superman-dawn-of-justice-director-zack-snyder
Some quick takeaways
The movie is pretty much done (some 3D shots waiting on)
The movie focuses on Batman and Superman (Wonder Woman has a role, the rest are essentially cameos)
He has a respect for the TV-verse, but sees it as DC's multiverse. Acknowledges that there is really no "definitive" version of these characters.
Major Gripex
Member
The interview just reassures my trust in Snyder. I love how he kinda let's it slip that the studio wanted to base the universe more on the movie canon of Superman. Paraphrasing:"We'll I'm a comic book guy, I always defer to the comic canon in making a story... unlike them... er I, that is... the movie canon plays fast and hard with the rules."
To me, its always been evident that Eisenberg's Lex Luthor is based a bit on Jean Hackman's portrayal. I'm okay with this as long as it's a good mixture with comic Lex because otherwise it will come off too campy and it will be extremely off-putting in an otherwise grounded comic book movie.
It isn't meaningless, and it won't coorelate to sales, but you misread... BvS is 1, SS is 2, Deadpool is 3rd.
Future Foundation
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So, Zack Snyder was on the Opie with Jim Norton show. And got hung up on.
Messypandas
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Do these guys usually act this childish?
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Lord Virgin
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So he confirms the second trailer was basically his and that we know nothing. So that is nice.
Also, that was kinda funny how he just hung up on him :lol they got him back on the line while there was some porn playing on the background. I want more interviews! The cast is going to be on the Graham Norton show, right?
Also, that was kinda funny how he just hung up on him :lol they got him back on the line while there was some porn playing on the background. I want more interviews! The cast is going to be on the Graham Norton show, right?
The second trailer meaning the one we all thought wasn't his?
GringoSuave89
Banned
Hope so. I love Graham Norton.
BadAss2961
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Zack on the movie being spoiled by the Doomsday reveal.
"Trust me, you don't know anything. You don't know anything... YOU KNOW NOTHING."
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Lord Virgin
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Yeah the one with Doomsday. Says he has pretty much full control on what gets released.
I haven't listened myself yet but that doesn't necessarily mean he cut the trailer himself. Just didn't seem like his usual quality
Unbelievable.
BadAss2961
Member
It actually turns into a decent interview in the 2nd half.
Just read them all. Some good stuff here. The Finch, Superman, and Luthor comics all highlight Superman's impact on the world and what they're doing about it. This is what I was talking about earlier. Hard to have high stakes when the world you've built doesn't matter and doesn't react to anything. When everyone just sits and watches as bystanders while superheroes and villains do stuff.
It's early, but the DCEU Earth has a pulse.
Major Gripex
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What losers. I hope there isn't a big public outcry because they obviously only did it for attention.
Actually, the MCU has already done most of what you're complaining about. It's just not as moody and dour because the world wasn't responding to a metropolitan city being flattened with tens of thousands of deaths. The US government responded to Iron Man by confronting him and threatening to take his tech by force in IM 2 and eventually compromised with the creation of War Machine. Shield responded to Thor by reopening research on the tesseract and jumpstarting the development of weapons based on Hydra's old designs. Shield then tried to react to the Chitauri invasion with project Insight but that failed and Shield was dismantled. After that, the world's entire security network was in disarray and the Avengers were left to pick up the pieces. Civil War is going to deal directly with the sudden emergence of superheroes over the last 4 years with the Sokovia Accords. If you're bitching because you think the public should be up in arms about aliens and powered beings, you see all of that in shows like Daredevil and Jessica Jones.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Hmm...
Firstly, these are really good. I like that Lois is capable of handling herself, I was afraid Supes was going to step in there.
Secondly, there's a common thread through these things, that Superman stays out of geopolitics. He'll handle fires, train derailments, floods, but he stays away from international conflicts. I suspect that that'll be a component of whatever Luthor's scheme is.
Thirdly, it's doing a really great job of introducing a number of very realistic viewpoints. Covering the whole gamut from people who literally idolize Supes to those who are convinced he's the end of the world, and ESPECIALLY the people in between; they generally get forgotten.
beyond_death
Member
After such a long wait we're so close now. I was able to find Batman, Superman, Knightmare Batman, Aquaman and blue Aquaman Funko POPS at my local EB games in Australia. After such a long wait we're so close now. Along with the Hot Toys stuff, shirts and various statues I'm spending so much money on merch for this movie.
I dont think I'll be able to live if this movie turns out to suck.
Part of me is terrified of reading these because I don't know if I want anything spoiled... I've done well enough avoiding the leaks that might or might not be true.
Anyone read these and feel they "told too much" even though we have no idea since the movie hasn't released yet.
Well I thoroughly enjoyed those. Just increased my faith in the movie.
Future Foundation
Member
Not really. They basically flesh out the featured characters - with Finch (I think) getting the best of it. Though they all do really good jobs of it.
It's a prequel comic so there's not really any spoilers. It's just setting the stage.
I really enjoyed the Senator Finch one. From the trailer, one would expect her to be fully anti-Superman because it's so easy to play a character like that in that way. This comic presents her as more along the middle road. She's a capable senator trying to do her job and look out for the best interests of the people.
Weird still works for me.
Schweinehund
Member
Just read the comics, at most what I would consider a spoiler is that it foreshadows
Other than that, it shows Batman not killing people, Supes saving people, Lex Plotting and Lois Lane reporting missing Kryptonian weapons.
Superman getting involved in a political affair, maybe that rocket in the trailer is a missile that he stops, and it causes the hearing you see in the trailers
Other than that, it shows Batman not killing people, Supes saving people, Lex Plotting and Lois Lane reporting missing Kryptonian weapons.
From all evidence, just seems like folks overblowing a quote from an interview with the producer.
BadAss2961
Member
Exactly. The Avengers has this battle in NYC and it's followed up with practically nothing. Just like when Stark was allowed to go on with his day and weapons of mass destruction after basically telling the government to go fuck themselves. Or like how Stark's research leads to Ultron, more destruction around the globe, and there's somehow peace at the end of all this. There is no civilian or media outrage in the movies, or what little might be there has no relevance to the plot. There's also no authority to answer to, and what little might be there is conveniently corrupt and exposed.
In Daredevil, the NYC destruction and alien invasion is totally underplayed. The fallout is community level. Superheroes are only brought up as winks to the audience that yeah, this is the same universe. I don't blame the show for doing this since it mostly does it's own thing and is better for it. But it further crushes any semblance of reality in the MCU as a whole.
Batman's just done keeping it clean. He's breaking bones, possibly branding fools and whatnot with no fucks given. But he's definitely not killing people.
KDash31987
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I wouldn't be surprised if the whole branding thing is just part of Lex's plan to get Superman's attention drawn to Batman to get them to fight eachother, and that Batman didn't do it. "Don't believe everything you hear, son."
Though it could also be crazy ass Batman trying to get Superman's attention. Who knows.
Though it could also be crazy ass Batman trying to get Superman's attention. Who knows.
It's like you didn't read a word I said. Being factually wrong hasn't ever made a difference to you though so whatever. I can only assume you bizarrely think the same about me, like we're speaking to each other from different realities about completely different movies. But like I said, whatever. Let's not argue about this in this thread.
GringoSuave89
Banned
Collectors figures of Batman seem to come with a Bat Brander. The Hot Toys and Ine:12 figures have it.
KDash31987
Member
I was gonna mention that in my post but forgot. Maybe he uses it, maybe it could just be there for the hell of it, or maybe he finds it while investigating. Action figure accessories aren't the best way to predict things in a movie.
But like I said, who knows. Still a little over a month to go until we all know for sure.
So basically Batman is Batman and the producer probably just finished playing a few matches of Injustice before talking to Empire to hype the movie?
Lol.
BadAss2961
Member
lol
I agree though, let's not argue about the MCU here. I cringe just typing about it.
So basically Batman is Batman and the producer probably just finished playing a few matches of Injustice before talking to Empire to hype the movie?
Lol.
Maybe.
Judge, jury, and executioner just wasn't meant to be taken literally.
KDash31987
Member
I just read that comic. It's one of those other prequel comics that comes with General Mills cereals (there's four, apparently).
It seems that Kryptonian signal jammer was just to jam radio signals so as not to set off the alarms at Wayne Enterprises while the criminals tried to steal Kryptonian weapons, and was broken in the comic. The criminals had some Kryptonian tech, and were breaking in to steal more.
They're only spoilers if you're interested in reading the comics.
Though there might still be some sort of different jammer in the movie that messes with Superman. Hell if I know.
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