Bobby Roberts
Banned
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU FUCKING HATE
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Batman vs Superman: World's Finest Three-Year Wait
- Thread starter Marion Cobretti
- Start date
- Status
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU FUCKING HATE
Oh I get it you did the thing.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
So you smelled what was cooking, one would say.
Marion Cobretti
Member
If the Rock ends up being Shazam, I'm totally okay with that, cause I think seeing him be in the Justice League would be pretty nuts.
GringoSuave89
Banned
It more or less consisted of "Uh... yeah, those buildings were totally empty during the fight... Yeah..." and some giggles. The only reason they added the empty development site line was to appease S&P (Standards and Practices), which Bruce Timm notoriously had to do ever since Batman: The Animated Series. The man loves his violence and nudity, and he had to argue for what little there was.
bryanee
Member
Are you sure you're not thinking of the commentary for the Superman/Doomsday movie?
Just checked the DVD set and there is no commentary for that episode,
Discotheque
Banned
Fixed
Sorry I was mocking his "This will bomb" comment.
broncobuster
Banned
It will be 6 years from Green Lantern to Justice League. Hulk and Spider-Man got rebooted after 5 years. Man of Steel was intended to be 6 years after Superman Returns. I don't see the old stinker GL movie affecting GL's place in Justice League. If there's a reason to bench GL, it's to lower the League size and save some characters for later. Large teams aren't a problem with efficient planning. Fast and Furious 6 dealt with its large team size by using pairs.
GringoSuave89
Banned
I could be remembering wrong. I just know the fact they had to add a line about there not being anyone in the new houses yet was totally an addition required by S&P. I think you're right though, wrong episode/movie.
It was six years. Not that long. And even if general audiences don't remember the GL movie (which I doubt), movie execs do. Sure characters like Hulk and Superman got to try again after similar amounts of time, but those are also bigger properties than Green Lantern with more proven success among mainstream audiences.
No one is saying that GL is definitely out, but if I'm a studio exec funding a $250 summer tentpole and I'm needing for characters to be cut from this thing so that it can work and make me a return on my investment, the one with the sub-genre's biggest bomb in recent years under his belt is the first to go.
Discotheque
Banned
I'll take flash over green lantern if it comes down to one or the other
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Based on the Flash pilot, we are already going to get a great live action adaptation of Flash. We have yet to get a good live action version of Green Lantern.
We couldn't have gotten Casino Royale or Mask of Zorro Martin Campbell. Nope, that was too much to ask. Instead we got Legend of Zorro Martin Campbell
We couldn't have gotten Casino Royale or Mask of Zorro Martin Campbell. Nope, that was too much to ask. Instead we got Legend of Zorro Martin Campbell
That movie was problematic at a core script level. The original script was apparently 'fine' until Warner freaked out and changed a bunch of shit.
Campbell made some bad decisions, I'm with you, but he's absolutely not the only person that failed that movie.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
We couldn't have gotten Casino Royale or Mask of Zorro Martin Campbell. Nope, that was too much to ask. Instead we got Legend of Zorro Martin Campbell
Maybe Campbell isn't comfortable with lots of CGI. Who knows. The scene where Hal gets beat up in the alley was well done in Campbell style, but the rest of the film was so stiff and bland. Such a shame.
I really want to read the original script to see how different it was. Because the people who wrote it are running Arrow, which is kicking ass from here to right over there.
told you derrick was a softie
Oh I'm certainly not placing the blame entirely on his shoulders, since as you said - the script had a lot of problems.
I'm just speculating based on what we know. Like I said, they could break tradition with an 8 member League, or Shazam really could be separate from the JLA movie.
We won't really have a clearer picture till the weekend, methinks.
Buddha Beam
Banned
I think I'm ok with The Rock playing Shazam. He seems like a more natural fit for Black Adam, but I can see how Shazam would work, too.
As for the Green Lantern vs Flash... I think they'd drop Flash, if only because he's in the TV show now. Audience confusion and all that. If we are getting one or the other and it's a Green Lantern, I kind of hope they go with Guy just for the chemistry he'd add into the mix.
But if they're really doing a Flash/Green Lantern team up movie in a few years, Hal seems like a better bet.
As for the Green Lantern vs Flash... I think they'd drop Flash, if only because he's in the TV show now. Audience confusion and all that. If we are getting one or the other and it's a Green Lantern, I kind of hope they go with Guy just for the chemistry he'd add into the mix.
But if they're really doing a Flash/Green Lantern team up movie in a few years, Hal seems like a better bet.
OR Aquaman will be leading his army against The Surface, and not a member of the League itself (until maybe the end).
broncobuster
Banned
You just had to post this right after I tried to be optimistic about Green Lantern's second chance ha. I agree that GL isn't on par with Hulk and Superman who've had success at one point in time. GL is cut first to stick with a seven member League. I'll settle for the rumored Flash and Green Lantern movie.
Come on man. You and I both know Darkseid is going to be the villain in this thing. Might as well get ready.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
The Rock is playing Darkseid confirmed!
Very little about what we've heard about this movie has lined up with what I expected or what I assumed they would do. I don't know that they're going to be that obvious.
The word Rock wanted the interviewer to say is "Anti-Life."
Good point. But turning Aquaman into a villain doesn't lineup with most of their moves involving the character lately save Flashpoint.
I wouldn't be opposed to Darkseid not being the villain, though. I've always been partial to the idea of it being Brainiac or the white martians.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
PhoncipleBone
Banned
As the Rock lounges in a chair.
Sorry man, Snyder going for that classic reference. The villain's gonna be Starro
Oh I wish they had the balls to make the villain Starro. Sadly, mainstream audiences are cool enough to buy into a giant mind controlling starfish.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Starro will always be the bomb to me. Having him as the villain could have some cool effects. Superhero vs Superhero at first before they team up, stuff like that.Oh I wish they had the balls to make the villain Starro. Sadly, mainstream audiences are cool enough to buy into a giant mind controlling starfish.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Sibersk Esto
Banned
#Starro2017
broncobuster
Banned
Brainiac's who I'm expecting. It's easy to connect Luthor in BvS to Brainiac in Justice League.
SeventhSon
Member
Oh I wish they had the balls to make the villain Starro. Sadly, mainstream audiences are cool enough to buy into a giant mind controlling starfish.
Snyder will make the villain Captain Atom instead.
Oh I wish they had the balls to make the villain Starro. Sadly, mainstream audiences are cool enough to buy into a giant mind controlling starfish.
Either have this opening or don't even bother.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db7SQKIDVpI
Yeah... I mean, I really want this to be good, but the more I hear, the less optimistic I become. Hopefully it knocks it out the park and blows me away instead, though!
Zack Snyder can make good movies from terrible scripts. Imagine him with a great script (which I have the confidence it's the case here).
Oh I wish they had the balls to make the villain Starro. Sadly, mainstream audiences are cool enough to buy into a giant mind controlling starfish.
My original pitch was The Centre, but I imagine that would go over as well as a lead balloon.
Escape Goat
Member
Having actors with starfish attached to their face might not translate well.
Lionel Mandrake
Member
Oh I wish they had the balls to make the villain Starro. Sadly, mainstream audiences are cool enough to buy into a giant mind controlling starfish.
Starro could definitely be modernized as a more abstract lifeform. I imagine him having a small starfish core, with a bunch of tiny, vine-like tentacles that spread all over the world. Like the red weed from War of the Worlds.
Could make some cool visuals.
b&jy77VjiKn$#F
Member
Wow I was off the Internet for a few days and, wtf happen to my beloved hype thread?
Future Foundation
Member
The Rock happened.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
I'm glad all of you are coming around on my suggestion to use Starro, the true JL villain
Father_Brain
Banned
I hope they don't use Darkseid for Justice League. I would rather see the New Gods built up over multiple films (yeah, there's BvS, but how much of that can realistically fit in?), and besides, who can you have as the villain in Justice League 2 that wouldn't feel like a major comedown in threat level? The Anti-Monitor?
But then, the New 52 JL is undoubtedly going to be a major influence, so there's a pretty good chance they'll go in that direction regardless of what I think.
But then, the New 52 JL is undoubtedly going to be a major influence, so there's a pretty good chance they'll go in that direction regardless of what I think.
That's my beef with Darkseid as well, it introduces so many different concepts.
But who else do you realistically get as a first threat? I supported White Martians, but feel like would thread on Avengers with an alien threat of that nature. Though Darkseid/Thanos may also be a problem
Well I think a supervillain team-up for the second JL movie could be awesome, if done correctly. Build a potential supervillain team up during post-JL solo movies, and then have them face the JL in JL2.
Imagine Lex, Joker, Gorilla Grodd, Black Manta etc.. against the JL in a live-action movie. I would shit my pants.
- Status