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Battlefield 4 |OT2| Is it fixed yet?
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The Faceless Master
Member
i came home in the afternoon and downloaded and launched the beta and the in-game downloader was at 3% when i left... get home 7 hours later and it's at 6% and i had to restart the entire console for it to even consider starting to move again. now it's ay 9% and i really wonder who thought this was a good idea... why can't they do normal PS4 background downloading so i can at least play something else.So are we making a GAF BF Destiny Clan? The official thread for making clans is a complete mess and it's pretty much random people throwing their PSN usernames.
I'm still downloading (installing?) that stupid beta btw
nope.
DICE!
I'm not talking the CTE suppression here. In Live, it's not effected by the suppression there either. I can suppress a Bulldog user, they only have to aim in my general direction vomit ammo and kill me like nothing happened.
I have nothing against the new suppression system. I think it's amazing (outside of the shit visual effect that tunnel visions you too easily). My problem is purely with the gun.
So you agree with me it needs a nerf, then? Why are you saying "B-B-BUT THE AEK/other assault rifles" when those aren't the topic of the discussion. The Bulldog:
-High rate of fire
-Has no suppression issues/gets through suppression like a hot-knife through butter.
-High damage
The only draw-back is:
-Vomits ammo
Three pros, versus one con. Gee, why wouldn't anyone use it over the other assault rifle guns when it kills faster than the FAMAS, can be put in single-fire mode and basically fired as fast as your trigger finger will twitch?
The pros need to be tweaked. Just like they needed (and still need to be, the "recoil" tweak just made it slightly annoying to use) to tweak the AWS.
IMO High RoF guns shouldn't be able to lay you out in seconds flat versus slower rate of fire guns. They should have a lower "damage per-bullet" for obvious reasons. Why pick a slower firing gun when you can pick one that isn't effected by suppression, hold the trigger for two seconds and kill someone?
EVERY
...Except the CBJ/nail-gun. That one is shitsux and needs a damage model redo. God, the suffering I did with that for the Sweedish Assignment.
FN P90, PDW-R, PP-2000, UMP-45, M(X)PX (before CTE fuckery) are notable. MPX would be good if it wasn't fucked with from CTE. :/ Though it did need to be slightly fucked with given it was nearly in the same ball-park (but a bit more balanced) than the Bulldog.
lostsupper
Banned
CBJ is my second choice. These are PDW's for people who can aim.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Heads up - I'm actually a Mentor over on Bungie.net. If you have issues with the beta (and or just want a code to play), let me know. I have a few extra. If you guys make a clan, holler.
Gonna go through the PDW's tomorrow and see which one sticks. Haven't used more than 2 or 3 of them too much... so we'll see where that goes.
Gonna go through the PDW's tomorrow and see which one sticks. Haven't used more than 2 or 3 of them too much... so we'll see where that goes.
The Faceless Master
Member
i have issues with the beta walking heel to toe into my PS4.
18%
really? REALLY?
18%
really? REALLY?
The drawbacks are considerable higher than average recoil (among the highest of any AR in the game), a very very long reload time, a small magazine meaning that you will take out 2 enemies at most 99% of the time before going through that painful reload time and the fast ammo consumption. It's not just ammo like you said.
As a close quarters weapon making you reload constantly and making that reload as long as they have is a big disadvantage when people are always at your face.
I said I'm fine with Dice tinkering with it, but if they don't I wouldn't mind as well to be honest. I don't think it is overpowered that's why I'm discussing this. As an assault I will not be using the gun in the long run.
Saying that high ROF shouldn't kill that fast compared to low ROF weapons makes no sense. They make serious trade offs to have that killing potential. What's the purpose of high ROF guns if not kill faster at close range? As I said both the bulldog and the FAMAS are advanced weapons that are not suitable for everyone. And even advance users won't be taking out enemies at medium to long rage left and right, and if they try they will eat all their ammo in seconds.
I think it's fair to compare the Bulldog with other high ROF weapons when you're saying it is the most OP gun in the game. When people say one weapon is the best other weapons definitely are in the topic of discussion, otherwise how you will say it is OP? Compared to what?
The AEK can kill people almost as fast, has less recoil and a big magazine, it is an overall better weapon IMO, the FAMAS can kill people just as fast from my experience, has the same recoil (we still don't have the synthic stats) and a bigger magazine.
If you're using a high ROF weapon like the bulldog in single firing mode you're using it wrong, period. Better go with the SCAR lower recoil then, because very few people will manage to get close to max rate of fire or even at a good ROF while still maintaining accuracy. I know I wouldn't. Firing it in single mode defeats the purpose of the gun.
I don't know how it is on PC, but on console I'm not seeing every assault running with a bulldog.
As far as suppression goes, I didn't see any differences from most other high ROF guns that I use. Maybe it's because I flank a lot so most of my kills my enemy isn't firing back or because I usually fire first meaning the enemy will be suppressed first.
Edit: I looked for some reviews of the gun and there is another considerable con that I didn't know and you didn't mention: Bullet velocity. The bulldog bullet velocity is at the low side at just 450m/s meaning at mid range if your enemy isn't completely stationary forget about him. With that bullet velocity, recoil and magazine size you will have a hard time killing moving targets at range.
It's obvious Dice balanced the gun for close quarters which is why killing people so fast makes sense. And another thing we both didn't know, the FAMAS STILL outdamages the Bulldog at close range.
Of the reviews I saw the only one that said that the bulldog might be overpowered was Matimio, but even then he wasn't sure. Both LvlCap and Xfactor made some good points and X nailed it in the head IMO, for him the Bulldog isn't versatile enough to be considered the best assault rifle let alone the best gun in the game.
No one I could find mentioned the bulldog not suffering suppression effects on both CTE or vanilla servers.
Kane Zakharov
Banned
Yeah I really just don't find the Bulldog OP when compared to other assault rifles. Like you said, the AEK and the SCAR-H are better alternatives to the Bulldog and they don't have as many drawbacks either. The Deagle on the other hand needs some adjustments.
I love the UNICA 6 as of right now. The way it looks, the reload animation, no trigger delay, it's a lot of fun to use.
I love the UNICA 6 as of right now. The way it looks, the reload animation, no trigger delay, it's a lot of fun to use.
king picollo
Member
Do you know the best thing about this game is?
Watching team mates run away from an objective that is clearly being taken.
Watching team mates run away from an objective that is clearly being taken.
Facism
Member
people play objective like one big TDM game.
And then people play TDM like their kill spread doesn't matter lol.
Try finding pistol only servers!
Daffy Duck
Member
So last night, what with the server errors on my PS4 I fired up BF4 (picked this up on my PS4 Monday to play with friends) on my xbox one to check if it was an EA thing or not, and I got into a game fine (probably just before all the xbox issues) but my god I did not actually realise how much better this game looks and runs on the PS4 compared to the xbox one.
On the xbox one it's just a jaggy blurry stuttery mess compared to the PS4. I didn't think it was a bad looking on the XB1 until I played the PS4.
My problem is now going back to play it on the XB1 (I bought premium for it, so if I sell it it's pretty much money down the drain), but I just don't want to play it anymore.
I'm in a pickle as to whether to sell my xbox one copy and just walk away from premium on it, and A)buy premium on the PS4 B) not buy premium for the PS4.
On the xbox one it's just a jaggy blurry stuttery mess compared to the PS4. I didn't think it was a bad looking on the XB1 until I played the PS4.
My problem is now going back to play it on the XB1 (I bought premium for it, so if I sell it it's pretty much money down the drain), but I just don't want to play it anymore.
I'm in a pickle as to whether to sell my xbox one copy and just walk away from premium on it, and A)buy premium on the PS4 B) not buy premium for the PS4.
All I need to do in order to download this content and make a triumphant return to the world of Battlefield is switch HDMI cables on the splitter. It's not even like they're buried behind the stand where they would be hard to reach. They're right there. Specifically set it up so that it would be easy, used a twisty tie and everything. Could do it right now. Goddamn DICE.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
I hope that in the future DICE does a limited access to the DLC so that they can make mixed servers and so that the DLC maps don't die off.
Maybe have it so everyone can play on the maps, but if you didn't buy the pack you don't earn points on them, your stats don't track, you don't get the new weapons, assignments, etc.
Maybe have it so everyone can play on the maps, but if you didn't buy the pack you don't earn points on them, your stats don't track, you don't get the new weapons, assignments, etc.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
Engineers IRL
Use that repair tool!
Pilot should pop smoke to give them repair cover...
Btw, Destiny is alright. The framerate is crap most of the time (for a shooter from Bungie, wtf Bungie) but I'm having some fun with it. They've streamlined some MMO stuff into it in a way that feels natural and intuitive.
Too bad you cannot turn off the disgusting fucking aim assist, which might as well be called auto aim. Anyone you can precision aim with a gamepad will be constantly wrestling with it.
SharpAttorney
Neo Member
Yeah, that auto aim is disgusting. I already find the combat to be underwhelming, but that auto aim makes it even worse.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
What's the best barrel attachment for the Deagle? I can't figure it out.
FiveSix4Three
Member
Gah! It took so long to get the Unica headshots for the Deagle.
Ended up with my service star before I completed the assignment.
Ended up with my service star before I completed the assignment.
Facism
Member
i have 4 headshots. 2 came from close range shots to the chest LOL
I got the headshots just looking for and sneaking up on snipers on non DT maps. Only took a few matches, and it was kinda funny.
The riot shield took a while. It seemed to me some suppression assists were not being counted and some were, it felt random, but it eventually unlocked.
The riot shield took a while. It seemed to me some suppression assists were not being counted and some were, it felt random, but it eventually unlocked.
Daffy Duck
Member
Applied to join the console GAF platoon.
ComputerBlue
Member
Can anyone with Naval Strike recommend it? Pretty bored of my games right now, I was planning on playing Destiny all weekend but it has the same content as the alpha which I played to death. Need something new for the weekend.
Wow...it's amazing how much I suck at Destiny PVP...
Is it similar to Halo? I never played Halo. I'm having trouble getting a 1.0K/D on most games. Most people one shot me with weapons I've never seen while it takes dozens of bullets from my shitty assault rifle to take down anyone.
It's frustrating! :-(
Is it similar to Halo? I never played Halo. I'm having trouble getting a 1.0K/D on most games. Most people one shot me with weapons I've never seen while it takes dozens of bullets from my shitty assault rifle to take down anyone.
It's frustrating! :-(
FiveSix4Three
Member
It's tied with China Rising for my favorite expansion thus far. I really enjoy the tropical setting and carrier assault can be good chaotic fun.
However, the maps have some frame drops towards the end of matches and funky load issues.
AnotherNils
Member
Which platform? I don't think many people play NS on PS4 anymore. Unlike in BF3, there are no official EA/DICE mixed servers incorporating all of the expansions. It killed the interest, and it's something everybody should note when considering purchasing premium in the future.
On another note, anyone find it hilarious that DICE released Dragon's Teeth, and started this battlefest promotion to coincide with the Destiny beta? Everybody on my friends list was playing Destiny last night.
Ricky Ricardo
Member
Honestly, I've been doing a bad job with my classes. All I want to do is play with my AK-5C and C4 in the Recon class. I haven't even unlocked the UMP-45 yet. X(
FiveSix4Three
Member
If you are only looking for rent a servers then you are probably right. I've never had issues finding dice servers.
Hell, 90% or more of rented servers are shit because of the way dice implemented them. No variation to the rules/maps/tickets just so people can keep the servers populated from quick match.
The problem is that those servers are only china rising, or only naval strike, or only dragon's teeth. Whereas in BF3, the official servers incorporated all of the expansions into one comprehensive rotation. It did a lot for the sustainability of those expansions.
FiveSix4Three
Member
Ah, I never played bf3 so never experienced that luxury.
Makes me wish there were medley servers for game modes like cod4.
Makes me wish there were medley servers for game modes like cod4.
ComputerBlue
Member
I'm not telling you not to. Go here http://bf4stats.com/servers/ps4 if you want to look at server activity. There's a handful of currently populated servers playing naval strike conquest (world wide). That number will be lower when you refine your search to your region; unless you're fine with playing with a high ping.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
While the Deagle is really powerful, I don't think that it is overpowered. Yeah, it is a 2-hit kill up close, has a short reload time, and a decent magazine size, but the thing that balances it out is its absolutely terrible on-the-move accuracy.
I'll try that! Thanks for the advice!
I've hated that thing since the Alpha. Dear god.
I find the Deagle to be overpowered in the sense that I can out snipe snipers from 100 yards out.
That's ridiculous.
Facism
Member
it's like a handheld DMR but not shit.