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Baylor rape scandal: Art Briles fired, Ken Starr "transitioned" to chancellor

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Lonestar

I joined for Erin Brockovich discussion
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Draxal

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Damn, cleaning house. GJ by the BOR there. Edit: Both the AD and Starr should have been fired, so I take this back.
 

Cybit

FGC Waterboy
In unsurprising news, leaving the asshats who think that the NCAA and "amateurism" is a good idea in charge of trying to deal with a massive societal problem such as sexual assault and rape has not worked out well.

Still pisses me off that they are trying to fix this all via Title IX and putting it in the hands of the most corrupt organization and group of people since FIFA
 

tanooki27

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Man, what does this even mean? Are you trying to imply something here? Or was it just a really odd off-color remark?

the implication might be that Starr knew he was being fired, and with this in mInd made some public, vaguely penitent remarks, albeit on an unrelated topic, days before the news of his firing was to be made public. PR


edit: oh he's not fired yet
 
the implication might be that Starr knew he was being fired, and with this in mInd made some public, vaguely penitent remarks, albeit on an unrelated topic, days before the news of his firing was to be made public. PR


edit: oh he's not fired yet

Ken Starr is no longer president of Baylor. Thread title needs to be updated one last time
 
Baylor is despicable.

The cover ups and lying make it all so much more twisted and perverse than it already was, and it was a mess to begin with....

Alumni and everyone should be ashamed and never let something like this happen again.... oh wait this is again, I mean a THIRD TIME! This should never happen three times!
 
Baylor has had consistent issues with their culture around athletics for a long time. Nothing that happens at that school surprises me. They need to pull an SMU and put athletics in check because it is damaging their reputation.
 

Lonestar

I joined for Erin Brockovich discussion
Institutional failures at every level of Baylor’s administration directly impacted the response to individual cases and the Baylor community as a
whole.
Yep
 
I'm not sure if this is a NCAA issue, but more a federal government issue.

The fact that they've fired the head coach of the football team shows that it does have to do with the NCAA. And looking at the tweet that cartographer posted, i'd say that Baylor has earned the death penalty from the NCAA.
 

Draxal

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The fact that they've fired the head coach of the football team shows that it does have to do with the NCAA. And looking at the tweet that cartographer posted, i'd say that Baylor has earned the death penalty from the NCAA.

They fired him because he was grossly violating the Title IX, DoE investigation/enforcement supersedes NCAA enforcement. Basically, Baylor has to worry about federal funding at this point.
 
I'm not sure if this is a NCAA issue, but more a federal government issue.

FWIW Baylor announced in the same release that they've self-reported these findings to the NCAA. NCAA could weigh in here, too. "Lack of institutional control" or whatever.

Even though these are things everyone paying attention knew, its a relief to see Baylor admitting to it. Hopefully the victims can finally start the healing process.

At the very least it gives some level of validation to many of these victims, even though like you said it was clear this wasn't some invented web of lies.
 
Good. He was a scumbag.

But now watch him get another coaching gig within the year at an even higher salary.

I'm sure there are programs that would love to bring Briles in but if there was a sexual assault there they would have huge liability risks given this report. Just hiring him would increase your legal liability.
 

shira

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/05/24/kenneth-starr-reportedly-to-be-removed-as-baylor-president-amid-football-scandal/





It is insane to me that Universities are still thinking it is ok to drag their feet on this. Need a major culture shift, fast. Weird that his name is in the news again shortly before we have another President Clinton.

Sadly this is how you win fast in the NCAA. You recruit high risk athletes and it creates a culture of high risk behavior.

2015 #13
2014 #5
2013 #13
2012 not ranked
2011 #13
2010-2002 not ranked

Baylor came literally out of nowhere to suddenly become a top 25 team.
 

Draxal

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A very stern wag of the finger and head shake. The NCAA couldn't even stick to their guns on Penn State, they're not going to step in with anything substantive on this one.

Penn State was out of their hands, as PSU would have won the lawsuit that they settled. This is actually in their hands, but the DOE should do their dirty work for them.
 

ryseing

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Sadly this is how you win fast in the NCAA. You recruit high risk athletes and it creates a culture of high risk behavior.

2015 #13
2014 #5
2013 #13
2012 not ranked
2011 #13
2010-2002 not ranked

Baylor came literally out of nowhere to suddenly become a top 25 team.

ahem Ole Miss ahem

Holy shit at all this. Didn't think that it would go this far.
 
Just abolish the NCAA and separate sports programs and college forever.

Start up something in their place like the Football League in England with divisions full of semi-pros/part timers.
 

kirblar

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A school or two is going to have to be burned to the ground legally before they stop with this bullshit.
Asking a place full of administrators primarily focused on covering their own asses to investigate and prosecute this stuff is insanity. The incentives just do not line up.
 

Cybit

FGC Waterboy
Asking a place full of administrators primarily focused on covering their own asses to investigate and prosecute this stuff is insanity. The incentives just do not line up.

A-freaking-men. The core issue is that you're asking the most spineless, cowardly, selfish and corrupt group of individuals outside of FIFA to investigate this stuff. These people run modern fucking gladiator pits, ffs.
 
Apparently, one of those instances that got reported to the coaching staff and never made it to the administration was a report of a GANG RAPE by football players. Yikes.

I read that and i'm not at all surprised. Baylor wanted to become a football powerhouse and Briles was putting them on target to do that, so they were going to attempt to protect that at all costs. A hugely successful football program is going to be more important than anything else to many schools.
 
From the official statement regarding the report:

Football coaches and staff took affirmative steps to maintain internal control over discipline of players and to actively divert cases from the student conduct or criminal processes.

In some cases, football coaches and staff had inappropriate involvement in disciplinary and criminal matters...​

Wow. They knew about crimes and actively covered them up rather than report them to police.

Baylor was still on NCAA probation as late as 2010 for the Patrick Dennehy MURDER cover-up scandal that rocked their basketball program. You'd figure Baylor athletics would go "hey, maybe we shouldn't cover up serious crimes like rape and murder anymore..." but obviously, that never happened. Seriously, this is like some organized crime kinda shit in that athletic department.
 
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