Holy Order Sol
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depths20XX said:
That had the best lyrics ever though.
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That had the best lyrics ever though.
canova said:
They don't let you remap, but the game also feels designed around the 360 controller. Just a tip, you don't need to lockon...ever. I actually had to think about what RB even did because I have yet to use it once and I'm technically on my 5th playthrough now.
Dabookerman
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So I started my Climax run. Fuck sake I don't ever remember the camera being so erratic during Verse 2 of act 1. The camera's going all over the place!
2San said:
I feel the same way about this - it's why I wish the RB lock-on was a toggle. Try holding RB, and then attack with the face buttons as normal during any fight. You'll find that playing this way is extremely uncomfortable. Something to do with the way RB is designed. Both the 360 pad and DS3 have their strengths and weaknesses, but holding down R1 while using the face buttons is extremely easy on the DS3.
And while you don't need RB to play Bayonetta (aside from the tiny handful of moves which can only be executed while RB is held), using the lock-on would alleviate many people's problems with the free camera during sections like the Jeanne's witch-walk boss fights. I can certainly live without lock-on but I'd prefer to use it when I play, and I'd have more versatile controls if I was playing with a DS3.
I just picked this one up a couple days ago, game is awesome.
I wanted to see if you could toggle lock on but from what I'm reading here you can't. I'm not good at hitting the right bumper and Y button together very well together, but oh well. I don't really need it that much anyway.
I wanted to see if you could toggle lock on but from what I'm reading here you can't. I'm not good at hitting the right bumper and Y button together very well together, but oh well. I don't really need it that much anyway.
Fimbulvetr
Member
-PXG- said:
Well Kamiya never touched DMC2, so yeah....
Honestly, the 360 controls should have swapped the functions of RB and LT. I hardly ever change weapons mid-fight, and even if I did, it functions as a button press and it's never necessary to hold the button like you might want to with the lock on.
In terms of the functions on top of the controller, I would prioritize them like so:
1. Dodge
2. Lock on
3. Taunt
4. Weapon change
The top two functions should use the triggers and the bottom two should use the bumpers. I hardly ever use the techniques that require RB because my index finger needs to be resting on the trigger so I can perform a dodge without delay.
In terms of the functions on top of the controller, I would prioritize them like so:
1. Dodge
2. Lock on
3. Taunt
4. Weapon change
The top two functions should use the triggers and the bottom two should use the bumpers. I hardly ever use the techniques that require RB because my index finger needs to be resting on the trigger so I can perform a dodge without delay.
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Deleted member 30609
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you never really need to lock on. I never do.
Fimbulvetr
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Rez said:
Pretty much, I only ever use the lock-on button for teleporting toward enemies.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
The only time you only really need to explicitly lock on is if you want kilgore to home in on an enemy.Rez said:
Yeah the only time I feel to the to hit RB is when I want to do a Stilleto. Is there a newgame+ with this title? I notice you can chapter select ( I think I'm on chapter 10 right now) and replay levels, which I'll do with my new items. Can I do this after I finish the game as well or do I have to do it beforehand? I figure once I move up in difficulty I'll have to start over with all my weapons and accessories.
I have to give some props to the voice acting too. The story is absurd and over the top (as it should be in this type of game), but the voice acting is overall very solid. Especially the voice actress for Bayonetta. Delivery is so good on all her lines.
I have to give some props to the voice acting too. The story is absurd and over the top (as it should be in this type of game), but the voice acting is overall very solid. Especially the voice actress for Bayonetta. Delivery is so good on all her lines.
Dave1988
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Guess what SEGA is doing with all that money they made off of selling Brokenetta? Working on a patch? No. Apparently they have nothing better to spend it on than on having their lawyers take down a certain video wherever it may pop up. This video supposedly "infringes on SEGA's copyrights" :lol :lol :lol
Fimbulvetr
Member
They're pretty late to the party but the escapist did an article on the Bayonetta sexuality issue.
And yes, there is more at that site than Zero Punctuation and their idiot filled forums, it surprised me too.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/on-the-ball/7053-On-The-Ball-Pimping-Bayonetta
And yes, there is more at that site than Zero Punctuation and their idiot filled forums, it surprised me too.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/on-the-ball/7053-On-The-Ball-Pimping-Bayonetta
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Deleted member 30609
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yeah, they should totally have their legal team patch the game
why you waste money on legal department foolz
but no serious you sick burned them dawg
why you waste money on legal department foolz
but no serious you sick burned them dawg
Once you finish the last level, it starts you back on the Prologue on the next highest difficulty, but all of the levels and weapons and things remain unlocked. It's exactly the same as it is before you finish except there's an option to look at your awards for each level.Mrbob said:
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
So, I am a big fan of the Ninja Gaiden games, God of War games, I am NOT a Devil May Cry fan, and I am getting Dante's Inferno. Bayonetta appeals to me as far as the action, but the story elements and music seem extremely cheesy. Does the gameplay offer anything beyond what I have seen in NG and GoW?
Funchameleon
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If you lock on you can dodge with direction+jump, DMC style, and you can get spammy without turning into panther form. Makes it hard, though not impossible, to dodge-offset though.
I don't use it, or lock-on much at all, but I can see the appeal.
I don't use it, or lock-on much at all, but I can see the appeal.
â Narayan
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It's more like DMC3 than anything. Ninja Gaiden and God of War play differently, so I don't think it's a fair comparison.XenoRaven said:
BaronLundi
Member
So yeah, dodge offset ? Totally not getting the hang of it.
e.g. you're supposed to P - K(hold) - dodge - release dodge/release K - P ? What's the time frame for resuming the combo ? I seem to systematically begin a new combo after the dodge. Any pointer to train properly?
e.g. you're supposed to P - K(hold) - dodge - release dodge/release K - P ? What's the time frame for resuming the combo ? I seem to systematically begin a new combo after the dodge. Any pointer to train properly?
Dabookerman
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BaronLundi said:
Do the Alfheims where you can only hurt enemies with wicked weave attack. And yes, the timing can be a bit tricky. Just try it with PKP over and over.
It's done like this: press P - hold K and press DODGE during the animation - press P when the dodge animation ends (tricky timing here but you'll get the hang of it)
NIN90 said:
I learned it with the most basic kick combo, basically. Hold K, dodge, hit and hold K, dodge, etc. I used the Kilgores and just held down till she fired off a rocket so I could take it slowly (though it certainly isn't necessary to hold it down that long). That's how I ultimately learned the timing and the fairly unorthodox control. Once you get the timing down you can easily apply dodge offset to any combo you do. It's amazing when it clicks, because it clicks to such an extent that you surprise yourself at how easily and naturally you start to pull it off.
Also, it's probably been noted before but you can dodge up to four times and still keep the combo, and you can also run around in panther form in the middle of a combo and it won't break it.
BaronLundi
Member
Thanks for the advice. Will do (and pray my reflexes are not to rusty for this shit).
I just beat the game on the 360, and I'm almost at a loss of words about the game.
It's really that magnificent. I haven't had this much fun with an action game since the original Devil May Cry. I may prefer the combat of something like Ninja Gaiden over this, but Bayonetta is a hack and slash game done with near perfect pacing.
My only gripes are with the story and anything that involved controlling motorcycles. Hopefully Bayonetta turns into a series and not a standalone game, because this clearly seems to have picked up all of that lost momentum that deflated the Devil May Cry series for me.
It's really that magnificent. I haven't had this much fun with an action game since the original Devil May Cry. I may prefer the combat of something like Ninja Gaiden over this, but Bayonetta is a hack and slash game done with near perfect pacing.
My only gripes are with the story and anything that involved controlling motorcycles. Hopefully Bayonetta turns into a series and not a standalone game, because this clearly seems to have picked up all of that lost momentum that deflated the Devil May Cry series for me.
You mean in the prologue where you need to get like 7 tortures? That verse was so freaking shitty on Hard. Mainly because I refused to remove my ice skates but still. Try itDabookerman said:
I basically stood in a corner on Hard & spammed Taunt to get MP... And used that 2 free MP orbs accessory. Helped a lot.I almost never take off the ice skates. It took some getting use to but now everything seems like slow motion without them.Minamu said:You mean in the prologue where you need to get like 7 tortures? That verse was so freaking shitty on Hard. Mainly because I refused to remove my ice skates but still. Try it
Yeah I like them too. Dunno why I never bothered with testing until very recently. I just don't like animation going from standing still to moving in random direction. Something is off with that making it hard to reach those witch statues & the cannons in chapter 15. Other than that, very nice stuff.Zertez said:
CadetMahoney
Member
The game was designed first and foremost with the 360 controller in mind, it plays just fine on the 360 as intended, I don't use locking either.
also a late comparison from the lot team:
http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=17470#comments
also a late comparison from the lot team:
http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=17470#comments
Eyemus Lutt
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So I've been playing this game for a while now, and I just don't get the love for this game. The combat is just not fun and the movement doesn't feel right and it's way too similar to DMC and Ninja Gaiden which are game's I just don't have any fun with. I prefer the more slower combat games like God of War and tried the Dante's Inferno Demo which seems better suited to the combat I like, and I even enjoyed the Darksiders combat a lot more than Bayonetta, but I guess because it's trying to copy God of War.
I guess I've been disappointed by Platinum games this gen with both games being totally underwhelming, after I enjoyed their previous efforts on last gen systems.
I guess I've been disappointed by Platinum games this gen with both games being totally underwhelming, after I enjoyed their previous efforts on last gen systems.
Augemitbutter
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nevernow said:
i don't mind if the controls are good. played fine with the DS3, so i never had a wish to change the mapping.