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Bebpo is crazy, 360 has risen to the heavens and MC Data is out for the week
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parathod said:
Metroid stagnated and died. A 3rd person action Metroid developed by Nintendo's A team would have kept the series alive, but Nintendo decided to turn it into a FPS to cater to the western audiences.
That probably won them some gamers, but they've made their bed. Metroid isn't going to be their JP IP.
PhoenixDark
Banned
"The next PS2" is stretching things. I truly believe Blue Dragon will be a huge title and make 360 sales much better, but not PS2 level better. Remember, if the Xbox 360 started selling 10,000 units a week that would be a major increase. I think Blue Dragon could have that kind of effect, especially with the PS3 price and potential hardcore Japanese gamers wanted to wait for a pricedrop and more AAA Japan oriented software (such as FFXIII)
Illuminati
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Mother 3 would be released in NA, that is what would happen.Amir0x said:
Battersea Power Station
Member
You've got it all wrong. They're just waiting for the definitive, 'Cube version of Zelda.Amir0x said:
Newzboyz99
Losers! My wife has me on lock!
whoa...Xbox 360 selling like PS2? :lol
We talking PS2 in 2008?
We talking PS2 in 2008?
TheKingsCrown
Banned
So the Japanese buy 2 games that are a little less expensive in huge sums over 2 days? Crazyness. What is making them want quicker games?
duckroll said:What, answering questions with facts is now insanity. Shit I better see a doctor about that.
No, not exactly.
You built a rational case with "facts" that does not make any sense. Yes, it's true that the 360 lineup is better the next month.
Your conclusion, though, is where the insanity lies.
I think I'll up what duckroll is saying and say Is there a single console in Japan with a better Japanese-orientated lineup in December than X360?. The PS2 has dried out mainly, the PS3 hasn't started, the Wii schedule is empty post-launch, and meanwhile the X360 has non-stop games for Japanese folk.
If X360 systems start moving, the software (Culdcept, [EM], etc, etc...) that's aimed at Japanese buyers will start moving as well. This would cause 3rd party developers to say "Hey, the X360 seems like the best place to make games that actually RETURN PROFIT" and to start working on and announce new Japanese beloved franchises for the system.
This in turn causes more people to buy X360 hardware for these new Japanese games, which in turn causes older software to sell more, which in turn causes new games to be announced, repeat.
This is the ball and how it rolls. IF (note this might not happen. Right now it's a complete gamble that no one has any idea if it'll pay off) it starts rolling the momentum would put the X360 into an ever moving chain of events to sustain it as the #1 console for Japanese gamers this gen. When the DS ball got rolling it was unstoppable. The X360 has a chance to do that and that chance is DECEMBER.
DECEMBER will either SAVE the X360 for the next 5 years or DESTROY IT as a total failure.
If I was a betting man I wouldn't bet either way because it's just too damn close.
If X360 systems start moving, the software (Culdcept, [EM], etc, etc...) that's aimed at Japanese buyers will start moving as well. This would cause 3rd party developers to say "Hey, the X360 seems like the best place to make games that actually RETURN PROFIT" and to start working on and announce new Japanese beloved franchises for the system.
This in turn causes more people to buy X360 hardware for these new Japanese games, which in turn causes older software to sell more, which in turn causes new games to be announced, repeat.
This is the ball and how it rolls. IF (note this might not happen. Right now it's a complete gamble that no one has any idea if it'll pay off) it starts rolling the momentum would put the X360 into an ever moving chain of events to sustain it as the #1 console for Japanese gamers this gen. When the DS ball got rolling it was unstoppable. The X360 has a chance to do that and that chance is DECEMBER.
DECEMBER will either SAVE the X360 for the next 5 years or DESTROY IT as a total failure.
If I was a betting man I wouldn't bet either way because it's just too damn close.
Square2005
Banned
¥5,800 (~$48) SportsSolsc said:
vs.
¥6,800 (~$57) for Zelda
Illuminati
Member
The only explanation is that they have been kidnapped and brainwashed by the XDF, then sent back to infiltrate us.Error2k4 said:
duckroll said:What would that conclusion be? That the Xbox360 software have a very good chance of outselling the PS3 software completely and utterly this holiday season? That has already happened last week.
That Japanese developers will notice this trend and shift their development efforts.
Do you really see that happening?
"wait duckroll is also saying 360=PS2 in japan? wtf?"
No, that's Crazypo. I just think the idea that this has any real impact at all...I think it is spurious at best.
Bebpo said:
To be fair, it's....not really close right now. It has been on the market for a year, and still has only sold half of what Wii sold in 2 days.
Even if, say, Blue Dragon quadruples 360 penetration it's gonna be a miracle in order to be the system of choice for Japanese gamers. I mean, a literal Jesus splitting the heavens and endorsing the 360-type miracle.
They're both the same person! AHHHHHHHHHHHY2Kevbug11 said:
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Chances of the 360 winning (Or rather, selling) in japan are really slim. BD may be good, but one game isn't enough. With the PS2 japanese gamers had a lot of games to buy, and the guarantee that games will keep coming out thanks to the brand name of the PS2.
It may be true that the brand name is not as strong thanks to the PSP and how sony showed it doesn't really know what it wants from it, but MS has NO strong brand in japan.
Xbox had games japanese were fund of too, and they bombed. It looks like japanese 3rd party developers are making western- oriented games instead, because they actually sell.
The amount of great selling franchises in japan is not that big, but a big part of it is Nintendo's or Sony's (Or exclusive to them like FF13), a few low tier RPGs won't start selling big on 360.
On the Wii's sales - I hope Zelda starts selling huge nubers, but the sales are good. Wii play comes with a controller so that is understood. Wii Sport sold very well.
Wario will have legs if history is anything to go by.
It's sad anything below Wario tanked, but that was to be expected.
It may be true that the brand name is not as strong thanks to the PSP and how sony showed it doesn't really know what it wants from it, but MS has NO strong brand in japan.
Xbox had games japanese were fund of too, and they bombed. It looks like japanese 3rd party developers are making western- oriented games instead, because they actually sell.
The amount of great selling franchises in japan is not that big, but a big part of it is Nintendo's or Sony's (Or exclusive to them like FF13), a few low tier RPGs won't start selling big on 360.
On the Wii's sales - I hope Zelda starts selling huge nubers, but the sales are good. Wii play comes with a controller so that is understood. Wii Sport sold very well.
Wario will have legs if history is anything to go by.
It's sad anything below Wario tanked, but that was to be expected.
More than LIKELY they'll see how much simple games like Wii Play and Wii Sports sell, and try to cash in on THAT cow.Y2Kevbug11 said:
The gaming business is about to take a trend for the worse in Amir0x's case. Japan will have an influx of simpler games for the Wii, while the big budget games don't get noticed as much. Over here in the states, we'll still crave big budget games, and we'll most likely see them from western developers.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
Amir0x said:
Fixed.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
I won't believe what these sales charts show until I see the way they look one year from today.
I'm not convinced that the Wii will sell more than the PS3, at least after 2008. They'd better have the Wii Lite in the works. It would be a good strategy, you know. Sell a short-term console for cheap (GBA) and then blow it up with a megasmash (DS).
I'm not convinced that the Wii will sell more than the PS3, at least after 2008. They'd better have the Wii Lite in the works. It would be a good strategy, you know. Sell a short-term console for cheap (GBA) and then blow it up with a megasmash (DS).
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Bebpo said:
Don't forget Idolmaster hits in January!
/ducks
duckroll said:Considering aside from Blue Dragon the entire line up for Dec I mentioned are third party games, I think the question has already been answered.
Oooh, correlation fallacy.
Come on, it is nonsense to link the games coming out next month with industry trends happening now, and SURELY you wouldn't be pointing to sterling 3rd party sales of 360 games in JAPAN.
It's not Brain Training! Took a while to make those games!
Haunted
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Bebpo said:
I disagree very strongly with you there - a game with average sales on the PS2 kills any game that makes fantastic sales for the 360 at the moment. I also think that December will be one of the best, if not the best month for the 360 in Japan to date (if for Blue Dragon alone) - but saying that this possibility not only exists but that it is 'too close to call' wether it comes to pass is... well optimistic is probably not strong enough I think.
I am pretty confident that BD will sell well for the 360, move a lot of consoles, but nothing even remotely comparable to Wii or PS3 (if they can supply) numbers. Not even close.
edit: hm. beaten by 500 people to that post. a crazy fast board this is!
Illuminati
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Not to mention actually have multiple games that consistently show up on the 10 ten in sales.Y2Kevbug11 said: