Kandrick
GAF's Ed McMahon
I like cute things.
Believe it or not, gamers who like the Atelier series are NOT pedophiles
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I like cute things.
Why is the Octopus peeping her panties?
Atelier.
disappeared
Banned
Where the hell is Drinky when we need him?
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Holy fuck liking cute things is equal to pedophilia here.
In this thread, nerds making fun of nerds *shakes head*
In this thread, nerds making fun of nerds *shakes head*
what do i google to get this because all i am getting is in-game screenshots and the protagonist making silly faces
i am not a pedophile
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Essentially this. I love cute things, cats, dogs, turtles, chibi anime characters, etc. If it's cute it's cute.
Boss Man
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I don't think grown men are supposed to think preteen girls are so cute that they want to store images of them and partake in media that focuses on them.
If you saw a stranger by himself at the park taking pictures of your nine year old daughter because he thought she looked cute you probably wouldn't react like, "Oh thank goodness I thought there was just something wrong with you!"
I'm not saying that like this kind of art is pedophilia, but the argument that it's not normal to be intensely interested in it and that perhaps it is a damaging thing that may lead one towards thoughts of pedophilia is not ridiculous IMO. Especially not given some of the images from this game. Is an eleven year old girl's underwear 'just cute' too?
how old are the girls in the games anyway?
would it bother you less if they looked exactly the same but instead described as somewhere in their twenties?
because albeit not 'adults', they don't really look like children either.. from what i've seen.
it's just a style they are aiming for.
there are pieces labeled "art" all over the world featuring [although non-sexual] nude children, and no one is claiming them to be catering towards pedophilia, neither should it be.
but anime and games can't be art, right?
would it bother you less if they looked exactly the same but instead described as somewhere in their twenties?
because albeit not 'adults', they don't really look like children either.. from what i've seen.
it's just a style they are aiming for.
there are pieces labeled "art" all over the world featuring [although non-sexual] nude children, and no one is claiming them to be catering towards pedophilia, neither should it be.
but anime and games can't be art, right?
yo thanks for ruining p4:a for me.
Theonik
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Well... It's not unheard of. There was a movie where this happened once.
Oh man that's just shameful. How could they possibly be so bold as to objectify a person like that. I mean, toned muscles and a torn black tank top? Why would anyone play a game displaying men in such humiliating fashion?
cj_iwakura
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Never heard of anyone thinking of an Atelier fan this way.
Neptunia, yes. And justified. Maybe if they were good games, but they're not.
Neptunia, yes. And justified. Maybe if they were good games, but they're not.
cm osi
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but real kids are gross!
It happens. I can't really blame you. Sometimes you can have the most logical argument for things but even then, nobody will listen. People often can't accept that some enjoy things innocuously when that thing carries a strong stigma or stereotype. Then they immediately become dismissive of any arguments over real quality or purpose of intent.
Like I said before, it's really not worth your time.
(As per the real quality of the games, I can't say. I haven't played them.)
A daughter is real, video game characters are not. Shot anyone between the eyes or chopped off their limbs recently?
Why would my 9 year old daughter be a fictional teenage cartoon?
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
They are not real preteen girls.
D3RANG3D
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3DPD amirite?
dakkumauji
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Sounds like a fun game.
I don't think I ever defended the gameplay!
Because she's the main character from a show that's airing this season. Is there a problem with that?
So you want to be Eric Wareheim?
That's worse than having an avatar of a cute anime/game character.
Thinking of that for every poster comes off as very... odd.
I mean, who wants to be a blank CD-R? Or a block of tofu?
Xilium
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Some people seem to think that liking moe in general = pedophilia of some form (I'll just ignore the rampant misuse of the word for now).
Looking at hardcore moe fans, especially in Japan, there is a stark divide between drawn/animated characters (2D) and real life people (3D). Outside of cosplay, there is no real crossover between the two. Animu characters in general are a heavily stylized and fantastical characterization of an archetype that are created to appeal to a very specific demographic of fans and for the most part, don't exist in real life.
Assuming there's even a sexual element to begin with, In the same way that furries aren't going around lusting after/banging farm animals, moe fans aren't going around lusting after/banging children. Sharing some characteristics with real world things doesn't make them equivalent in appeal to said things.
That all said, most people just find moe to be cute.
Looking at hardcore moe fans, especially in Japan, there is a stark divide between drawn/animated characters (2D) and real life people (3D). Outside of cosplay, there is no real crossover between the two. Animu characters in general are a heavily stylized and fantastical characterization of an archetype that are created to appeal to a very specific demographic of fans and for the most part, don't exist in real life.
Assuming there's even a sexual element to begin with, In the same way that furries aren't going around lusting after/banging farm animals, moe fans aren't going around lusting after/banging children. Sharing some characteristics with real world things doesn't make them equivalent in appeal to said things.
That all said, most people just find moe to be cute.
butter_stick
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Maybe I am Eric Wareheim, and I'm very happy about it?
cm osi
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Definitely.
papersleeves
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Really? I've never heard of this stigma before. And with that picture just above, one may understand why would some people think so.
It's like you haven't read the thread.
Anime encompasses a ton of different styles with characters of all ages, genders, shapes, and sizes.
All those avatars have something in common besides anime.
In case that's not a rhetorical question: the protagonists are usually 13 or 14 at the start of the game and 17 to 18 at the end.
(Another thing that makes the Arland games very different from almost all other RPGs is that they stretch over 5 years, without any time skips)
Dedication Through Light
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Atelier.
Well it has a good character design.
Main issue with the game has always been lack of compelling gameplay, dont see how the game makes one pedophilish.
Don't feel bad, I had a hard time choosing too. This board is so damn fashionable.
Nocturnowl
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Oh crumbs, these avatar assumptions don't work well for me at all, well at least it's not a hatchling Owl up there right?
Most reasonable response in this whole thread.
You're not supposed to say things that make sense in these types of threads.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Is like saying every single video game is a Macho Power Fantasy because Gears of Wars features muscular men killing fictional Reptile Men with fictional chainsawgun
Yep, they are all using a simplistic art style to draw funny/cute faces
Red Sutter
Banned
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ArtisticAge
When you've got stuff like Jin Kazama looking like a 32 year old Mr. Universe contestant when he's supposed to be a high school student, or Aerith looking like she just started high school but she's 22 and beats up gangsters for a hobby, that's when you realize that it's just a stylized fantasy, and you relax
Pop-O-Matic
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I like how you try to refute my
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Theonik
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RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Of course that would be creepy. How is playing a game with a cute aesthetic in anyway similar to that?
SMT
this show is not Breaking Bad why is it not Breaking Bad? it should be Breaking Bad dammit Breaking Bad
Aerith looks like a 32 year-old woman.
WickedLaharl
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This thread would have been better if it were a defense of the neptunia series.
At what age are males no longer allowed to like cute things?
Atelier.
This image right here is why some people make assumptions about people who have anime related avatars.
They're adorable?
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
Let's put it this way:
What if I had an avatar of some random 12yr old girl.. who isn't my daughter.
Would you find that strange.. or disturbing? Because it would be.
Kandrick
GAF's Ed McMahon
Why not ? Is there an age requirement for liking cute things ?
I am 31 so i guess i am just allowed to like games where i kill stuff dudebro style ? Or is that just for kids ? What should i like ?
Crash Station
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Very great writeup Zel, but I'm not sure why you bother. The people you're addressing aren't going to change their minds as they judge based on looks and not actual content. Yeah, it's annoying, but that's just how the internet is.
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