Last call, will the Switch surpass the PS2 or not?

Anything over 160 beats ps2 there isn't question

I agree in principle, because Sony stubbornly refuses to release exact sales numbers, while Nintendo is fairly transparent about that, but in practice you're definitely going to have a lot of people arguing that "over 160 million" could mean anything between 160 and 165.
 
I agree in principle, because Sony stubbornly refuses to release exact sales numbers, while Nintendo is fairly transparent about that, but in practice you're definitely going to have a lot of people arguing that "over 160 million" could mean anything between 160 and 165.
Over 160 million means more than 160 but less than 161, if it was 161 they would say that
 
Yeah I think it will. It will keep getting support for years because there are so many in the wild, like ps2 did. It is still outselling ps5 in Japan despite Switch 2 being out.
 
You're about to have your dreams shattered breh.
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I'm pretty sure, aside from units sold, the Switch has crushed all the other PS2 metrics measurable.
I'm thinking in terms of market size. The gaming space is bigger now than it was 20-25 years ago, so I'd imagine there's some sort of ratio where PS2 did what it did despite a smaller market/population/whatever. But I'm happy to be wrong, I have no horse in this race
 
Over 160 million means more than 160 but less than 161, if it was 161 they would say that

Would they? I'm not trying to be confrontational here, because I agree the we should use the lower bounds regardless for ranking, since that's all that has been confirmed, but it seems like Sony rounds this data down to the nearest 5 million units, since previous they were saying "over 155 million units" and not something more precise.
 
At this point they would have to literally stop all production in order for it to not surpass it by end of this current fiscal year.
 
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If the gap is really just 5 million-ish sales, then I don't see how they fail to achieve that over the next two to three years.

It would be one thing if Switch 2 was more or less the same price, but given the price difference, there will still be Switch and Switch Lite buyers, especially over the holidays.
 
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I'm thinking in terms of market size. The gaming space is bigger now than it was 20-25 years ago, so I'd imagine there's some sort of ratio where PS2 did what it did despite a smaller market/population/whatever. But I'm happy to be wrong, I have no horse in this race

I confess I was thinking of $$$.
 
Over 160 million means more than 160 but less than 161, if it was 161 they would say that

Would they? I'm not trying to be confrontational here, because I agree the we should use the lower bounds regardless for ranking, since that's all that has been confirmed, but it seems like Sony rounds this data down to the nearest 5 million units, since previous they were saying "over 155 million units" and not something more precise.
We have an exact number. 160,636,885.

So, 161M needed.
 
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We have an exact number. 160,636,885.

So, 161M needed.
Oh shit! I'm actually really happy to be wrong. It's good to have this mystery finally solved. Where's that number from?

Edit: Never mind, just googled it and I see Shawn Layden essentially confirmed this number, so it's almost certainly legit.
 
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No.

PS2 had the dvd player and basically the whole console market to itself. Maybe if PS6 is going to bomb, which it will not.

Also, Switch 2 is nothing more than a stronger Switch 1. No unique features. It'll do just fine at around 90M in six years.
They said Switch, not Switch 2. Switch 1 is definitely outselling PS2.
 
Yep, I found an article about it on google. Looks like Shawn Layden replied to the tweet and confirmed the number though, so I think it's fair to say that it must be reasonably accurate.
At least they can't come with a higher number now… But everything is possibly. 5 million more can come from PS2 minis.
 
PS2 is a home console, SW is a portable and If you dont believe me, look at SW lite (all Lite 25mil sales counts as SW life time sales )

The only one Switch can dethrone is DS.
 
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PS2 is a home console, SW is a portable and If you dont believe me, look at SW lite (ALL Lite Sales counts as SW life time sales)

OK, let's accept this premise. Even so, no handheld has ever outsold the PS2, so it won't be any less impressive if the Switch is the first one to do it.

The handheld/console distinction is pretty irrelevant here, honestly, since it seems like the size and constitution of both markets are very similar. Both have historically capped out around 155/160 million units, with the vast majority of successful consoles and handhelds since 2000 selling between 75 and 120 million units.
 
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It already has more than likely. Sony are dishonest fucking snakes who will keep finding another ten million PS2's down the back of the sofa when it suits them to do so.
 
PS2 is a home console, SW is a portable and If you dont believe me, look at SW lite (all Lite 25mil sales counts as SW life time sales )

The only one Switch can dethrone is DS.
PS2 is a hybrid DVD Player and gaming console, Switch is a hybrid gaming console and Handheld. Only one is dedicated only for gaming and that's a merit.
 
Not if they keep the price. After four years PS2 cut the price in half. Six years in it was 43% of the price. Switch didn't have that price drop. Switch is also a purely gaming machine. A lot of PS2 were used for DVDs as they were a cheap DVD player at the time. Not sure anything touches the PS2 since it was good hardware for the price at the time. Oh and Sony keeps adding to the total. As soon as Switch gets closer another random 5 million will show up lol.

Really though, PS2 was still supported somewhat after the PS3 came out. I don't think the same could be said for the Switch. That and no price drop will keep the Switch from beating it.
 
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It depends if Sony finds some extra PS2 sold numbers again like they did when switch was about to surpass it.
 
Nerds will keep discussing the semantics of it, all that matters is getting that big number so you can market the switch 2 as the sequel to the best selling console of all time
 
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