Because Ben Affleck is a box office draw and nobody gives a fuck what people here think.
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Ben Affleck Is The New Batman
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Because Ben Affleck is a box office draw and nobody gives a fuck what people here think.
Bobby Roberts
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He isn't, though. Not really. It's partially why he went into directing.
And even after garnering success as a director, it took until The Town before WB would try to capitalize on his name as a legitimate piece of marketing again.
Affleck isn't all that "safe." It's a decent pick - it's not "safe."
It's not like "people here" are the only people reacting strongly to this news.
How I feel reading all the fanboys reactions:
They taste so good.
Pretty much. I'm gonna make me a nice chilli tonight with all this salt.
Whiskeymatt
Member
The biggest problem I have with this casting is that it seems to go against the direction of Batman they said they were going for. I mean, Snyder announced that Batman was going to be in MoS2 by saying they were trying to match the tone of the quote "I want you to remember the one man who beat you!" from The Dark Knight Returns. Affleck's become a decent enough actor over the years, but those have been understated character roles. Older Batman, especially in the Dark Knight Returns, isn't understated at all. He's pure brutality, and Affleck hasn't previously shown the range to pull that off.
Maybe we'll all be surprised in the end, but I'm not going to expect much going in. He'll probably pull off the Bruce Wayne role well enough, though.
Maybe we'll all be surprised in the end, but I'm not going to expect much going in. He'll probably pull off the Bruce Wayne role well enough, though.
Winnie the Pimp
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I agree, but the BIGGEST thing that a lot of people are seemingly overlooking is... why the hell would ANYONE think it's a good idea to cast Ben Affleck of all people as OLD MAN Bruce Wayne??? Affleck who looks extremely young, he could easily be in his late 20s, and then they're trying to match the tone of an old grizzled veteran Batman with THIS?
Okay, let me be more clear: The people who actually care who plays Batman (for better or worse), versus those who just care about seeing Batman.
I have to imagine the latter group far outnumbers the former, and Affleck isn't the type of actor that would turn the latter people "off" of the movie in any conceivable way. Hence, safe.
Whiskeymatt
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Yeah, that was a bit confusing to me as well. Hollywood makeup magic might fix that a bit, but it's still a headscratcher. It makes me think Affleck wasn't their first choice, if they're really going for old grizzled Bruce Wayne.
BadAss2961
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Affleck isn't safe as a draw at the box office, but he's safe as an actor to play Batman. Maybe he'll surprise us, but i'm picturing a very safe, by the numbers portrayal of the character.
Literally anyone not named Bale was gonna piss a lot of people off, and they could've done a whole lot worse than Affleck. Orlando fucking Bloom was rumored. lol
StickSoldier
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Would J-Lo make a better cat woman then Halle Berry or Anne?
Discotheque
Banned
I'll just repost it cause I like you guys.
http://8bitplus.tumblr.com/post/59072520726/bottom-of-the-9th-full-count-and-the-bases-are
Please god, I only ask for a few simple things in life. And one of them is giving Afflecks batman a wicked awesome Boston accent
BadAss2961
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Hathaway was solid with a nice little ass too. I think any problems people had with her Catwoman has to do with Nolan's vision.
the_painted_bird
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I REALLY think that Superman v. Batman shouldn't be adapted into a film... I predict incredible divide among hardcore comic fans. Why the fuck are they doing this? Sure, Affleck had the creds, and MIGHT even be a good Batman, but I can already tell that I'm not going to like it. Seriously, what the fuck.
ohhthegore
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wat
he's had like 2 good movies; Argo and The Town
edit: Gone baby Gone was great but he wasn't even in it so it has nothing to do with a discussion about him as an actor
Discotheque
Banned
Huh? Gone Baby Gone wipes the floor with both of them
Casey da best Affleck
Casey da best Affleck
legacyzero
Banned
Vestal
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Best Catwoman is Michelle no contest. Nolan screwed the pooch on his iteration of Catwoman although a step up from Berry no where near the vicinity of Michelle. Burton got a masterful performance from Pfeiffer while Hathaway did the best she could with a very questionable portrayal of the character.
FrostuTheNinja
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As long as he keeps all his dialogue local to the Boston metro area, I'll be happy.
"I'll smeah yuh face across thuh Pike, Jokuh."
Truth.
All this outrage is absolutely hilarious. I don't care about this casting choice, I'm more disappointed in the vision Snyder has for Batman. I was hoping for something a little less GRIMDARK.
BadAss2961
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I agree. The only problem I had with Nolan's Catwoman though was that we needed more of her. A couple interesting moments with Bane would've been perfect.
The weirdest thing about Rises is how there's not one scene where Catwoman and Bane interact with each other.
Razgriz-Specter
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If the other thread is to be believed then one petition has 10,000 signatures already.
that is a large amount in only 1 day.
WB better care.
Freeza Under The Shower
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for all the Matt Damon as ... , I can actually see him playing a Bourne-type villain. Not sure who would fit, but if Elysium is any indication, Damon is still bitchin' when it comes to action movies, so: why not? It all depends on the script anyway, since none of these actors is a newbie to acting, so there is no need to get all "oh fuck no" over it.
and I think we can give the 90's references a rest. Movies aren't made in those terms anymore, and quality (not in all actors though) has significantly increased. Aside from directing / writing / publisher shittyness, we now live in an age where it's pretty hard to make a really, really bad in all categories multi-million AAA publisher backed movie. In my opinion of course.
Not saying it's impossible, but really hard.
oh, and let's face it: Superman + Batman means 90% Supes, 9% batman, 1% Bruce. Who gives a shit who plays Bruce at those margins? (bring back Clooney! hihihi)
and I think we can give the 90's references a rest. Movies aren't made in those terms anymore, and quality (not in all actors though) has significantly increased. Aside from directing / writing / publisher shittyness, we now live in an age where it's pretty hard to make a really, really bad in all categories multi-million AAA publisher backed movie. In my opinion of course.
Not saying it's impossible, but really hard.
oh, and let's face it: Superman + Batman means 90% Supes, 9% batman, 1% Bruce. Who gives a shit who plays Bruce at those margins? (bring back Clooney! hihihi)
BadAss2961
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Matt Damon wouldn't be a bad Deathstroke.
Or else ?
Okay, but that still happened. And it was successful. And then for his follow-up, he won Best Picture - and whether you liked Argo or not, everyone knows the accolades it picked up.
Affleck is a safe choice because everyone knows who he is and basically what to expect. Bale, Cavill, Ledger, etc. weren't safe choices because they either weren't as well-known or, at least in Ledger's case, nobody knew what to expect from the performance.
Casting Affleck is no different than if they used George Clooney or Brad Pitt or Matt Damon for something similar. It's stunt casting.
No, that shit never ever matters.
SilentRacoon
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People are going to watch the movie, predisposed to not enjoy it, WB you better watch out!!
Space Runaway
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I have nothing against Affleck as an actor but I'm having a hard time seeing him as Batman/Wayne. Guess I'll just have to wait and see how it turns out.
do not sign this
Bobby Roberts
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I'm not quite sure what we're arguing at this point, as I've acknowledged he's an Oscar winning director/writer. But he never landed as an actor that could draw people, and the speed at which EVERYONE referenced Daredevil, as opposed to any of his better performances in the last 10 years speaks to the "safety" of this call. It seems obvious nobody really knows what to expect from Affleck if they're referencing Phantoms, Armageddon, and Daredevil.
Clooney/Pitt are on a completely different tier than Ben Affleck. That's not even debatable. Bale was considered a very safe choice by basically everybody. That wasn't considered a risk by anyone, so far as I can remember from 2004/2005. Granted, my memory is a little foggy, and I'm sure someone will pull up an article or a messageboard thread from back then that pokes a hole or two in how I remember it - but to me, a "Safe" choice would be an actor who is primarily known for starring in a mainstream boxoffice successes, not so much for directing one.
I don't think this qualifies as stunt casting, either, unless you know for a fact that Batman's only getting like 5-10 minutes of screentime in this movie. Hell, Laurence Fishburne would probably qualify as "stunt casting" for Perry White more than Affleck as Batman.
I agree with Gilgamesh. Do not sign this
FrostuTheNinja
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I don't know, this could be one of those weird instances where someone was essentially, "born for the role". We'll see. 
Hahahahahahahahaha yeah because I'm sure all of those idiots will stick it out an boycott the movie. Those people are worthless to WB. There are millions upon millions of people that either don't care/like the decision. 10k angry nerds ain't shit.
BadAss2961
Member
Replacing him opens the door to much worse possibilities. He's not a bad choice.
Forsaken82
Member
I am sorry but this doesn't look like a guy in his late 20s...
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3358237440/nm0000255?ref_=nmmi_mi_all_evt_9
He looks like hes in his late 30s... which go figure.. hes 41..
Heaven forbid a guy in his 40s having a lot of hair...
JayVoDaKing
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Dude...Really you seen Daredevil right.
If you're a TRUE comic book fan of the character and content they feed us , you'll do it (it's your own opinion) or don't .
But, I think it time for MAJOR Character roles like this to have some real actors that understand the image of the content and stop putting shit Movies out.
Nova Prime
Member
Daredevil was 10 years ago. He's better now.
alfredofroylan
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I'm afraid to ask this. What actors could be a worst choice for Batman?
Heh, I was just going to post that pick. And that whole petition thing is utterly stupid. Saying that he doesn't fit the character is moronic, you haven't seen him playing batman. Who would've thought that pretty boy Heath Ledger would be a good Joker? And Bale wasm't that could've been a better Batman, his gravely voice was just awful.
Bearded Ben Affleck would be pretty much perfect for an older Batman. He has the right jaw for the bat cowl.
Ben wasn't the only bad thing about DD. The entire movie and all involved were bad.
And pulling out the "true" fan card :lol. If you've been reading Batman comics for a while then you've seen things MUCH worse than the casting of an actor you don't like in a movie directed by a guy who has only made one really good film. How do you know he doesn't understand the material? Were Bale or Nolan huge fans of the comics?
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