BoboBrazil
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By no more spoilers in thread does it mean no unmarked spoilers or just no spoilers period? I can go back and remove mine if I need to and someone should start a spoiler thread.
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BEYOND: Two Souls (Ellen Page, Willem Dafoe) |OT| Press Triangle to Aiden
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dragonbane
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No spoilers or spoiler thread before October 8th apparently. We probably should start one then on that date. Better edit them and continue the discussion over PM for now. But you can probably keep us updated if it lead anywhere without spoiling.
Apeopleman
Member
Pre order at Gamestop. Get the steelbook case, bonus soundtrack, and exclusive 30 minute section.
BoboBrazil
Member
That toilet picture is fake. I tried to use multiple toilets in the game and it won't let you;(
Ok deleted my posts. Great game. I enjoyed it quite a bit. I feel like it's going to be overshadowed by GTA5 though. They chose a bad time to release it.
dragonbane
Member
If the reviews are going to be like it looks right now, it probably won't matter. It will sell decently on pre-orders and that's going to be it.
Glad you enjoyed it though. Seems like it is possible
For what it's worth, I don't think they're sending it out to die. I've seen commercials on TV playing up the Ellen Page/Willem Dafoe angle, so maybe people will buy it after seeing them.
dragonbane
Member
Certainly not. I'm pretty sure Sony wants to sell as many units as possible before the embargo lifts. Maybe good word of mouth from those that enjoyed it might help to keep it afloat for another week or two.
At least I hope there is more to the 15 or 22 endings thing or whatever than it looks right now. That would be pretty disappointing after Heavy Rain, which at least had some control.
BoboBrazil
Member
Obviously yes. Did you miss the success of Heavy Rain or The Walking Dead(which got numerous GOTY awards)?
dragonbane
Member
Because people like to play an 8 hour long movie instead of watching a 2 hour one. Also read the rules.
Beat the game, took me about 12-15 hours, i did it normal pace. I have no idea how people got 8 hours.
The options are in there they are just more subtle than heavy rain, hard to notice untill you play again
The loading screen shows exactly where in the timeline you are, theres no problem with chronology.
nope, you can start back up to the choices
The Walking Dead won GOTY last year...
The options are in there they are just more subtle than heavy rain, hard to notice untill you play again
The loading screen shows exactly where in the timeline you are, theres no problem with chronology.
nope, you can start back up to the choices
The Walking Dead won GOTY last year...
dragonbane
Member
Damnit dude. Now I don't know what to think. Either you played slow or maybe you got a different path? Maybe there is a path that is awesome and 12 hours long and one that is only decent and 8 hours long? Because there is somebody else that also reported 8 hours, but then someone who beat it in 12 hours just like you.
What does this mean exactly? Do you think anything mattered that you did before you got to the last scene?
The full YouTube walkthrough is about 8 hours long, but they're always shorter than the norm anyway. The players never seem to explore and they tend to miss incidental details.
It's at least 10 hours long for most people.
dragonbane
Member
It could be. However, 2 Gaffers here also reported 8 hours and they said it was only decent. But then we have PureGone and fantomena reporting 12 hours and they thought it was awesome. Just a coincidence? Maybe. But honestly I can't see, even with exploring, how you can go from 8 to 12. It's too linear for that and it doesn't have a game-over screen.
So either it is somehow possible and maybe it even makes the game more enjoyable, because you spend more time looking at the details. Or there are different branches. Maybe one "win" branch and one "fail" branch like Heavy Rain? The "win" branch was getting to the warehouse with everyone alive and then you could choose your ending pretty much. It took about 7-8 hours. The fail branch is dying with everyone as soon as possible. You still get to the warehouse, but you can only choose from bad endings pretty much. It takes 5 hours.
The "win" branch gave you a mostly satisfying experience. The other one not, but at least you knew that it was your fault. See what I mean? I'm just speculating, but maybe it is a similar situation here, except since the choices are so subdued you don't notice it.
There was a poster here, I don't know if he is valid, but it sounded true to me. He played some scenes at GAME and one of the Sony reps told him
that the game takes into account what you did with Aiden throughout the game and it affects something.
Maybe I'm just grasping at straws...
BoboBrazil
Member
I took about 12 hours as well. Maybe a little longer. I took my time and switched to Aiden quite frequently though. Also just found you can choose chapter after you beat the game so you can see some alternate things more easily and don't have to totally replay through if you don't want to. I just found two really cool things I did this time just by playing the last level over again that I didn't do the first time.
I don't think length is an issue. Heavy Rain didn't feel too short, so if this is even longer, then I'm not worried.
Also, it's difficult to tell how long you've been playing for if the game doesn't track it for you. It's usually just an estimate, unless the person has timed themselves playing it.
As for the branching paths, we'll have to wait and see.
dragonbane
Member
Cool. We should definitely compare our chapter screens once the spoiler thread goes up. Either you just took your time or maybe your timeline actually has more content. Maybe you can skip certain scenes and get to the final chapter faster if you do certain stuff? This would be my guess and Heavy Rain worked similarly, except that it was pretty apparent when it happened.
valentine71
Banned
How many chapters are there?
Marty Chinn
Member
I believe he's talking about using a phone/tablet to control the game.
martino
Member
Fugitive "chapter" is only for demo purpose ? if not , not true for this part.
The 'with little impact' part of his post makes me think differently.
I could be wrong, though.
dragonbane
Member
You can do nothing till you get arrested. This is considered a failure. When you are arrested nothing will happen till you free yourself.
mullet2000
Member
Welllll I made it up to the end of video 6 and the writing hasn't been very good so far. The latter half of video 3 and especially
Young Jodie's dialogue
I'll probably keep going later (hope it gets better), but I'm definitely not that impressed with the fact that the writing in such a story-focused game is this weak.
Marty Chinn
Member
Oops, I think you're right after reading it with that viewpoint in mind.
The 'lion in a cage' part in video 4, right?
martino
Member
did i said 100% of the time ?
I will test when i get it...
Not a real problem if it bugs only me. Forget my question.
Twilight Princess
Member
I desperately want this game to be as good as the last of us. I don't really care about traditional gameplay, as long as the experience is up to par I'm happy.
mullet2000
Member
Yeah, exactly that part. Reallllly wasn't buying that that dialogue could ever come out of her mouth.
You should....probably lower your expectations. Few games this whole generation can stand to The Last of Us and if the writing I've seen so far is any indication this won't be holding a candle to that game in that category. And in a game of this type with no "real" gameplay to stand on the importance of the writing and dialogue's quality is multiplied many times over.
dragonbane
Member
Colin from IGN said it contains serious spoilers. So better not read it.
Yeah, it spoils everything. I'd suggest avoiding it.
Not if you want to plat this in the first week to return it to gamestop to get full credit and a free PS4 game you don't.
I agree with this. The Last of Us raised the bar in terms of voice acting and dialogue, and from what I've seen, this doesn't come close, despite being an improvement over Heavy Rain.
And despite the presence of two great actors, they can't overcome a poor script. However, they do make it tolerable. Heavy Rain couldn't afford this luxury, and suffered greatly for it.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Pre-ordered the special edition for those extra goodies. Has it been clarified exactly what will be cut/censored in the EU version of the game?
dragonbane
Member
10 seconds of violence. Doesn't seem like it is a big deal, very minor stuff.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Hm. Any rumblings of a completely uncut version being released somewhere? If so I might just cancel my preorder and import the uncut version.
I'm curious how TLOU is spoiled for someone,
since it can't be so clearly spoiled by saying "X character dies". Did someone just say to you "Joel is actually fucking psycho" or something?
dragonbane
Member
The US version has uncut violence, but supposedly censored nudity, even though there is no real nudity in the game to begin with, so it smells like bullshit. Honestly I think both versions are fine and pretty much identical. You are not going to notice anything.
Probably multiple spoilers. THE LAST OF US SPOILER:
I went in knowing that Sarah would die in the prologue, that Ellie is immune, that there would be no cure, that Marlene dies at some point and that Sam & Henry die.
Yeah, it was something like that. I can't really remember, though.
Doug Heffernan
Member
I'll probably rent this.
Heavy Rain was a solid rental.
Heavy Rain was a solid rental.
EmptySpace
Banned
EmptySpace would be seriously depressed if the last of us is the epitome of game stories. naughty dog said its inspiration was 'the road' yet tlou played more to 'the walking dead' crowd. there was much more action/suspense than what they were touting as emotional drama. contrast with the road which had much more depressing scenes than there were action scenes.
what EmptySpace did not like about tlou was that the "take the atmosphere in by forcing the player to listen to dialogue while walking slowly".
mullet2000
Member
I hope I get to meet this EmptySpace fellow one day.
DukeBobby concurs.
Still trying to make that whole "EmptySpace" meme thing work I see
dragonbane
Member
dragonbane suggests at the next GAF meetup.
I would actually love to have some discussions with him. The way he argues is interesting and pretty intelligent.