The Praiseworthy
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Will this top The Last of Us for me for the "Game of the generation" title?
I will find out now
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Will this top The Last of Us for me for the "Game of the generation" title?
I will find out now
Will this top The Last of Us for me for the "Game of the generation" title?
I will find out now
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theignoramus
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You are full of it.It doesnt represent the future direction of the medium any more than Heavy Rain did four years ago.
and your implication that full price games lacking replay value is somehow a new trend is BS too. Sony's been doing that since the PS2 era.
The Praiseworthy
Member
lol it's in arabic.
ComputerMKII
Banned
Since it's forbidden to say 'Beyond is not a game' in this thread, why do you think responding to those posts is any more acceptable?
Acquiescence
Member
Will this top The Last of Us for me for the "Game of the generation" title?
I will find out now
Praiseworthy always gets the games I want early on. Makes me green with envy.
Stephen_drewz
Member
I want to stop reading this thread now because it is killing the hype for me
I have never played or seen anything regarding Heavy Rain. I got a PS3 very late. I have never played a game like this before, maybe The Walking Dead but so far I have only played about 20minutes of that(my issue on PC is I keep getting invited to Dota 2). The demo was pretty interesting for me. It looked pretty pleasing. The menu song was incredible as I previously said. I started to get really excited for it, now I am not so sure especially since in Australia its $90. That is normal though.
I guess I shouldn't let it bother me. If I feel I will enjoy it I probably will.
I have never played or seen anything regarding Heavy Rain. I got a PS3 very late. I have never played a game like this before, maybe The Walking Dead but so far I have only played about 20minutes of that(my issue on PC is I keep getting invited to Dota 2). The demo was pretty interesting for me. It looked pretty pleasing. The menu song was incredible as I previously said. I started to get really excited for it, now I am not so sure especially since in Australia its $90. That is normal though.
I guess I shouldn't let it bother me. If I feel I will enjoy it I probably will.
theignoramus
Member
I want to stop reading this thread now because it is killing the hype for me
I have never played or seen anything regarding Heavy Rain. I got a PS3 very late. I have never played a game like this before, maybe The Walking Dead but so far I have only played about 20minutes of that(my issue on PC is I keep getting invited to Dota 2). The demo was pretty interesting for me. It looked pretty pleasing. The menu song was incredible as I previously said. I started to get really excited for it, now I am not so sure especially since in Australia its $90. That is normal though.
Ive watched half the game on youtube. While I cant vouch for how it feels to play. I can say that the writing, while nothing special, shouldnt detract from your experience and anyone ranting about it probably had unreasonable expectations going in. There's very little dialogue to be offended or embarrassed by, it's pretty serviceable stuff and the voice acting from side characters is substantially better than it ever was in Heavy Rain. The story is very engrossing to me and while Ive only been watching, actual gameplay mechanics are a prominent feature of this game, particularly with Aiden. Pay no attention to reviews, its difficult to tell who has an agenda, whether for or against. What Ive seen thus far has been a laudable attempt to tell an interesting story.
reptilescorpio
Member
I want to stop reading this thread now because it is killing the hype for me
I have never played or seen anything regarding Heavy Rain. I got a PS3 very late. I have never played a game like this before, maybe The Walking Dead but so far I have only played about 20minutes of that(my issue on PC is I keep getting invited to Dota 2). The demo was pretty interesting for me. It looked pretty pleasing. The menu song was incredible as I previously said. I started to get really excited for it, now I am not so sure especially since in Australia its $90. That is normal though.
I guess I shouldn't let it bother me. If I feel I will enjoy it I probably will.
You can import the steelbook for $70 if you are into those kind of things!
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
It occurs to me that the more like a film a game gets, the more likely its going to get scored like films do. i.e. not the expected "8-10 or its shit" thing.
With a more nuanced and detailed presentation its easier to pick up things you don't like, and given the moronic nit-pickery you get with a lot of game scores that's not a recipe for "success".
Personally I couldn't care less because I disagree with reviewers in the overwhelming majority of cases.
With a more nuanced and detailed presentation its easier to pick up things you don't like, and given the moronic nit-pickery you get with a lot of game scores that's not a recipe for "success".
Personally I couldn't care less because I disagree with reviewers in the overwhelming majority of cases.
Can't really agree with that. See Heavy Rain scores, for example.
Rather, in this case it seems the game fails to deliver on key aspects that are its self-proclaimed focus: story, characters, writing in general.
The gameplay doesn't do much to enhance the experience either. Quite to the contrary, I found it downright annoying; most of the time during the demo scenes it felt like an unwelcome distraction from the narrative and even killed the immersion for me. Maybe considering the kind of "game" they intended to make, they should've went even more into the "interactive movie" direction and keep the gameplay down to scene exploration and decision-making. Everything else gameplay-wise feels superfluous and brings the experience down. Wiggling sticks, shaking controllers, mashing buttons, aping actions on the screen ... all while having flashing indicators displayed on the screen ... that stuff needs to go. It doesn't enhance the experience.
Well, it's definitely also what I like about this kind of video game.
The Walking Dead, for example, largely avoided those QTE trappings and instead relied mostly on exploration and decision-making - in my opinion way more suitable mechanics for an interactive narrative-focused experience.
ComputerMKII
Banned
I wouldn't mind. Making choices is the single thing I like most about video games. Virtually everything else might as well be optional.
Go ahead, just be sure to use spoiler-tags if necessary. Reading about people's first-hand experiences with this game is going to be interesting.
Will this top The Last of Us for me for the "Game of the generation" title?
I will find out now
The Dark theme is better!
Miles Quaritch
Member
US. UK release is 11th Oct.
semiconscious
Member
describes my reaction to the gameplay perfectly. i thought that the most effective sections of heavy rain were the ethan investigative sections, & that that was the direction future qd games would be best off moving toward - more piecing things together, less action/quicktime...
JordoftheDead
Member
Disappointed with the impressions. I enjoyed Farenheit and Heavy Rain, though the writing was appalling in both. I was hoping for a lot of improvement in this.
I will still pick it up.
I will still pick it up.
Have you played the game or you're just saying it's inconsistent because you want it to be?
Just because it plays in a similar way it means both games have to be as good? This makes no sense, I hate it when people try to claim liking TWD and disliking Heavy Rain as hypocrisy.
I have this game preordered, loved Heavy Rain and while I'm not sure I'll love this one, I'm definitely interested enough to buy it, before people acuse me of being in this thread while having no interest in the game.
BoboBrazil
Member
Damn I hope we get the spoiler thread approved. I need to find out how to do a particular thing and it seems like I've exhausted every choice the game gives so hopefully I didn't mess it up by doing something in an earlier chapter.
maquiladora
Member
Well, I loved Heavy Rain, but the last couple of pages of this thread has killed my hype for this game. I guess I'll try it out at some point in the future when its much cheaper.
ComputerMKII
Banned
All those posts are ridiculous
BoboBrazil
Member
I beat the game and played through the end chapter multiple times already. There are a lot of earlier choices I'm going back to play through as well. If you liked Heavy Rain you will love this game. It is an improvement in pretty much every way.
Thread crappers are crappers... or something
People put too much emphasis on reviews. If you liked the demo and enjoyed the previous games from Quantic Dream then you will more then likely love Beyond Two Souls.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Gbraga said:
Speaking personally the biggest problem I had with TWD versus HR is that I find the whole "zombie apocalypse" scenario to be played out and frankly, deeply silly.
That's just my 10c though, and although I think its entirely reasonable and logical to take my position -it is an oversaturated subgenre, and Romero style zombies exist in defiance of all known biological and scientific laws- I know not everyone will feel the same way.
But by the same token I'm not going to give TWD a 5/10 automatically because I find its fiction unappealing.
Okay here is my impression and I finished the game yesterday.
Playtime was about 9-10 hours if not more, so okayish.
Graphics: Most beautiful graphics on the PS3. There were so many moments were I didn't know that I have to play (more than in The Last of Us). Incredible scenes and very cool lightning. Sometimes it stuttert a bit when there were fast paced scenes. I played this game together with a group of friends and the woman wanted us to keep playing because they were amazed at how much this game looks like a movie - it's way better than anything else on the console. There are scenes were it cannot hold the quality, but it's only two scenes were I thought that.
Gameplay: Well, after about 5 minutes you are able to control it very well... never had any problems and there were two scenes (Stealth scenes) were I had very much fun. I played together with a friend. He played Aiden and I played with Jodie, both of us could just switch with triangle. We played on the "Play videogames often" difficulty, but didn't have any problems at all. We tried two scenes with different choices and were surprised how different a few scenes were. Well.. there are many choices and quiete a few sad ones which made the woman in our group cry. :-( so be prepared.
Sound: Awesome, chilling inspiring soundtrack. I want to buy it. Better than Heavy Rain.
Story: I don't want to spoil anything, but like you saw in the Demo the game jumps around. This stylistic choice made my happy because the game doesn't get boring and holds back the twists like that. Good choice. The story itself is way better than Heavy Rain... and I liked Heavy Rain alot. Ellen Page and William Dafoe perform very good. There are scenes where our friends were so emotionaly bound that they screamed which choice we should make...
In my opinion and two friends of mine which play videogames very often and one woman friend which played Heavy Rain we agreed that Beyond: Two Souls is a better game than Heavy Rain. It's a game which you have to play with a group of friends because everyone feels like they are involved in a movie experience. We even discussed how cool it would be to have choices in a cinema.
Many different choices, great soundtrack and amazing graphics give the game a good value for it's money. So buy it. I can't believe that there are people out there which think that Heavy Rain is better.
Playtime was about 9-10 hours if not more, so okayish.
Graphics: Most beautiful graphics on the PS3. There were so many moments were I didn't know that I have to play (more than in The Last of Us). Incredible scenes and very cool lightning. Sometimes it stuttert a bit when there were fast paced scenes. I played this game together with a group of friends and the woman wanted us to keep playing because they were amazed at how much this game looks like a movie - it's way better than anything else on the console. There are scenes were it cannot hold the quality, but it's only two scenes were I thought that.
Gameplay: Well, after about 5 minutes you are able to control it very well... never had any problems and there were two scenes (Stealth scenes) were I had very much fun. I played together with a friend. He played Aiden and I played with Jodie, both of us could just switch with triangle. We played on the "Play videogames often" difficulty, but didn't have any problems at all. We tried two scenes with different choices and were surprised how different a few scenes were. Well.. there are many choices and quiete a few sad ones which made the woman in our group cry. :-( so be prepared.
Sound: Awesome, chilling inspiring soundtrack. I want to buy it. Better than Heavy Rain.
Story: I don't want to spoil anything, but like you saw in the Demo the game jumps around. This stylistic choice made my happy because the game doesn't get boring and holds back the twists like that. Good choice. The story itself is way better than Heavy Rain... and I liked Heavy Rain alot. Ellen Page and William Dafoe perform very good. There are scenes where our friends were so emotionaly bound that they screamed which choice we should make...
In my opinion and two friends of mine which play videogames very often and one woman friend which played Heavy Rain we agreed that Beyond: Two Souls is a better game than Heavy Rain. It's a game which you have to play with a group of friends because everyone feels like they are involved in a movie experience. We even discussed how cool it would be to have choices in a cinema.
Many different choices, great soundtrack and amazing graphics give the game a good value for it's money. So buy it. I can't believe that there are people out there which think that Heavy Rain is better.
The perfect Dark
Banned
Thanks for the impressions! How's the replay value? Any unlockable content?
Miles Quaritch
Member
I need a score. Where's the score man? WHERE'S THE GODDAMN SCORE!!!!!!
Y2Kev just gave me the okay so here it is, chat away. I'll run and hide now:
SPOILER THREAD:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=692221
SniperHunter
Banned
I thought people loved the demo...disppointing impressions???
Yes there are hidden things and different branches in the chapters and also do your choices matter even in early game, but I won't spoil anything of course. Replay value is high for different scenes.
Edit:
I would give the game a 9/10 (because I would have loved more stealth scenes).
Other scores of mine would be:
The Last of Us (10/10)
GTA 5 (9/10)
Bioshock Infinite (8,5/10)
Puppeteer (8/10)
So ... in the same range. Game is for people which don't expect a normal game. It's something else like Heavy Rain, but alot better. I don't understand the people which say that the game is not that good. I guess these are the people which only played the demo which didn't show anything important.
brotkasten
Member
Quick question for the ones with the demo or retail version: How action heavy is the game really?
I know pretty much nothing about this game and only saw the first trailer. As a fan of Quantic Dream's previous games I planned to buy this in the near future, but I've heard that it's much more action heavy than Heavy Rain (3rd person shooter?). That would almost be a deal breaker for me, as I prefer the more laid back experience from Fahrenheit or HR.
I know pretty much nothing about this game and only saw the first trailer. As a fan of Quantic Dream's previous games I planned to buy this in the near future, but I've heard that it's much more action heavy than Heavy Rain (3rd person shooter?). That would almost be a deal breaker for me, as I prefer the more laid back experience from Fahrenheit or HR.
If you go with the Demo impression then don't trust these because the full game is a bit different and has very interessting scenes. If you liked Heavy Rain you will love this game even more.
It's the same as Heavy Rain. It's not a shooter and there are of course intense QTEs like Heavy Rain ones. So don't be afraid you will never have to aim at anything.
I didn't download the demo because this game is all story to me so I didn't want to see anything ahead of time. I don't really know what you mean with Heavy Rain either. I was intrigued by the idea of it but the writing was so atrocious that it was impossible for me to like that game. The writing is equally atrocious in this?
I would never do that to myself. If I had to rent it I would just restart gamefly and get it with a couple other games for that 1 month.
I don't care what reviews say. I rarely do for any game - I make the decision whether to buy a game or not based on previews and demos. Ib especially don't give a shit what reviews say about this. Love QD, loved HR and loved the demo for this. Will buy even if it gets 1s across the board. Which it won't
dragonbane
Member
And the pages before it we had very positive impressions. It's really mixed apparently. The story seems rather divisive in terms of content. I think you will get enough enjoyment out of it for 10 hours and then trade it in for a good value.
It's better. However, the much better voice acting especially helps mask some of its problems. It's absolutely serviceable.
Eh, if you liked Heavy Rain there is a very high chance you will like Beyond as well.
Yes there are hidden things and different branches in the chapters and also do your choices matter even in early game, but I won't spoil anything of course. Replay value is high for different scenes.
Edit:
I would give the game a 9/10 (because I would have loved more stealth scenes).
Other scores of mine would be:
The Last of Us (10/10)
GTA 5 (9/10)
Bioshock Infinite (8,5/10)
Puppeteer (8/10)
So ... in the same range. Game is for people which don't expect a normal game. It's something else like Heavy Rain, but alot better. I don't understand the people which say that the game is not that good. I guess these are the people which only played the demo which didn't show anything important.
cool, this is what I got from the demo as well, which was great.
dragonbane
Member
Thanks. I feel better now
Good.
Great post. Deadly Premonition is a good example.
Miles Quaritch
Member
As always. This really pisses me off. Why not just release the day on Wednesday here too?
dragonbane
Member
I don't know. The only thing I know is that a retailer in Berlin nicely claims on their website that the game was released on October 4th, so I will pick it up tomorrow
I've played both. For example, TWD had some horrible action sections that people tend to forget, and the script had some less than stellar parts
like the Lara Croft wannabe near the end
Miles Quaritch
Member
I don't know. The only thing I know is that a retailer in Berlin nicely claims on their website that the game was released on October 4th, so I will pick it up tomorrow
While I'm here waiting another 5 more days like a schmuck.... Grr!
It never used to be like this, I still fondly remember when I used to be able to pick up games a few days before release from a local indie shop...such a shame most indie stores are now gone.