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Police work 24/7?I appreciate where you're coming from, but I am entitled to privacy. You can be transparent without having an audience 24/7.
Police work 24/7?I appreciate where you're coming from, but I am entitled to privacy. You can be transparent without having an audience 24/7.
WDF man all these occurrences between days of each other smh. RIP.
Oh my god. Not even a full fucking week, huh? Another family hurting
Police work 24/7?
Police work 24/7?
What I completely fail to understand is WHY the US Government thinks it's okay to militarise their police force. It's insane and truly shows how "defence" companies make use of legalised bribing of officials ("lobbying"). Tax payer money used to intimidate the tax payer.
America scares me sometimes.
How can you have a democratic state when the state hides information from the demos?
its just finally getting media attention. Don't think that this is a short term issue.... its not.
These happen every day. They just now get attention.
Someone needs to make a website. It needs to include every person killed by the police, starting from the site's inception, going forward. It should have a picture of every killed person, their name, the badge number and name of the officer who killed them, the site of the killing, and links to details. And at the top, there should be a simple counter. And on the sidebars, the data entered should be constantly updating a series of reports, including a demographic representation of who has been killed, socioeconomic data for the dead, geographical clusters of killed citizens, etc.
I think that very shortly, we would be ashamed to look at it. I'm not sure how ashamed we have to be to do something. I've called my representatives, both state and federal, to agitate for camera laws for police, but that doesn't seem like nearly enough. But I don't know what else to do.
Believe it or not, police can be sanctioned for things done outside of their work hours. Also on call when needed.
Because we're tough on crime, why else do we jail people en masse for nonviolent crimes and have one of the largest prison populations in the world?
Brothas will have no reason to venture outdoors for at least a little while.
This is not from the case in question, but it does give some insight on what a cop might be up against. Not comparing to this case. Was just posted on reddit:
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What I completely fail to understand is WHY the US Government thinks it's okay to militarise their police force.
It's a War bro. On drugs. Crime. Poverty. Cops. Etc.What I completely fail to understand is WHY the US Government thinks it's okay to militarise their police force. It's insane and truly shows how "defence" companies make use of legalised bribing of officials ("lobbying"). Tax payer money used to intimidate the tax payer.
America scares me sometimes.
Believe it or not, police can be sanctioned for things done outside of their work hours. Also on call when needed.
In uniform, on the clock, on camera. They can take all their clothes off if they want to gossip with their fellow cops I suppose.Well, I was talking about me. 24/7 is more of a saying than accurate statement to how long one works, but you know that. At face value I don't think it is economically feasible to record police officers while they are on duty, all the time. You would have to come up with a good justification to do so other than "they work for me" (paraphrasing)
How can I know how to vote if information I consider valuable to my decision making process is not available to me because the state hides it?This is no "information", so it's not hidden. Secret is not anti-democratic.
Outpourings is not democratic, considered transparency is.
Yuuuup. Governments have two ways of addressing unrest: respond with reforms to ease the unrest, or stop unrest with brute force and hope that people are scared enough that they shut up. America has clearly chosen the latter. It's sort of like Central America in the 80s but instead of death squads we have packs of legalized thugs rounding up millions of Americans and sending them into one of the most inhumane prison systems in the world. Also we make sure to brand everyone sent into this prison system as a second class citizen who has no other means but crime to survive when they get released.
In uniform, on the clock, on camera. They can take all their clothes off if they want to gossip with their fellow cops I suppose.
How can I know how to vote if information I consider valuable to my decision making process is not available to me because the state hides it?
Eighty-five shots: That’s the total number of bullets German police used in all of 2011, Der Spiegel reports. But what does it say when US cops use as much ammo to bring down one man as German cops need to keep the peace nationwide?
The rate at which German police discharged their firearms is further underscored by how rarely they shot with fatal intent. Of the 85 bullets used in 2011, 49 were warnings shots, 36 were aimed at criminal suspects, 15 people were injured, and 6 were killed, the German daily continues.
But I vote for the people who decide police policy at higher levels too. I need them to have the information just as much as me.You don't vote for cops. Maybe a sheriff, but not your regular beat cop. But that's besides the point.
Eliminate funding for the schools and police.How do you figure how to fund such a massive endeavor?
But I vote for the people who decide police policy at higher levels too. I need them to have the information just as much as me.
Eliminate funding for the schools and police.
How can I know how to vote if information I consider valuable to my decision making process is not available to me because the state hides it?
Like I saw on /r/socialism: a few bad apples ruin it for the good 3%Just to get it out of the way, there are good cops that has nothing to do with the piece of potentially wrong decision that ended up in someone losing their lives.
#notallcops
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OT: RIPHope there will be some clarity and more information on the case soon so appropriate actions can take place.
No, I understand your argument. There are some things the little people just shouldn't be allowed to know, they're too important and they couldn't understand them anyway. Much better if issues like police militarization and misbehavior stay out of the messy TV show of politics and kept in the hands of expert public administrators who are immune to the people and their irrational and uneducated whims.You don't spend money on recording every civil servant for a so little, un-justified small stake. Democracy has a price, but again what you as is not democracy and in some ways could be seen as the opposite (there are plenty of political science and philosophical studies about that, you should read)
But yeah you have a really bizarre way of seeing the State, public servants, your vote, democracy and transparency, so I guess you won't understand my arguments and keep use low-level rhetoric with biased questions/arguments.
You're asking the wrong questions, again. Public administration is not something you vote for.
I could ask for the head of State's notes from meetings with his staff and ministers because I consider it valuable, but this isn't because I consider it so valuable that it needs to be shared as open-data to every citizen.
They are by the way hundred of dozens of strongest ideas and not full of bad side effects decisions that needs to be taken, especially in the US democracy. And feasible decisions in the 2014 world, where there is economic issues all over the world, financial debts for the States. You don't spend money on recording every civil servant for a so little, un-justified small stake. Democracy has a price, but again what you as is not democracy and in some ways could be seen as the opposite (there are plenty of political science and philosophical studies about that, you should read)
But yeah you have a really bizarre way of seeing the State, public servants, your vote, democracy and transparency, so I guess you won't understand my arguments and keep use low-level rhetoric with biased questions/arguments. In every language, arguing with libertarians ends up with the same dead end.Good night.
Are there any police forces that have put cameras on uniforms?
Yes, actually there are quite a few who are introducing them this year. San Diego is maybe the biggest, mostly it's smaller towns that tend to have few problems and few officers. Or places like Kentucky or New Hampshire that have a bit of an anti-establishment background to them.Are there any police forces that have put cameras on uniforms?
8 May 2014 Last updated at 14:02 BST
The Metropolitan Police says it hopes a pilot scheme in which officers will wear small video recorders on their uniforms will improve the force's relationship with the public.
Five hundred devices are to be distributed to officers across 10 London boroughs. Firearms officers will also use them in their training.
The cameras will be turned on to record stop and searches and violent incidents.
Are there any police forces that have put cameras on uniforms?
Oh my god. Not even a full fucking week, huh? Another family hurting
Not one of, bro:
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The prison privatization boom began in the 1980s, under the governments of Ronald Reagan and Bush Sr., but reached its height in 1990 under William Clinton, when Wall Street stocks were selling like hotcakes.
Only 4% of the prison population is housed in private prisons.Hmmm, when did jails get privatized in US again?
EDIT: http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-pr...es-big-business-or-a-new-form-of-slavery/8289
Makes sense now.
This is not from the case in question, but it does give some insight on what a cop might be up against. Not comparing to this case. Was just posted on reddit:
We just get a better bang for our buck:How come cops in normal countries manage to do their jobs without killing people all the time? Let's compare USA to Western European countries, for example, where this does not happen every other day.
It is just not feasible to have constant recording.
Sàmban;125117846 said:Yeah...that's nice.
Now tell me how this story fits in with innocent people getting choked to death while begging for their lives, getting their necks stepped on, getting killed while shopping without instigating, having their children shot in the streets like animals without instigating and I may be able to muster a smidgen of sympathy for these heartless criminals known as law enforcement officers.
No fucking sympathy. Fuck all cops. Even the good ones are part of the problem; you never hear them speak out about things like this.
I don't know, the constant and often racially motivated malfeasance of police officers seems like a good fucking reason. If people want to argue it's a few bad apples, then stop empowering them by arguing against tools that would help remove them.Well, I was talking about me. 24/7 is more of a saying than accurate statement to how long one works, but you know that. At face value I don't think it is economically feasible to record police officers while they are on duty, all the time. You would have to come up with a good justification to do so other than "they work for me" (paraphrasing)