Definitely. I was anticipating Breen the entire time, played right into the game's proverbial hands.
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Black Mesa Source |OT| Do you know who ate all the donuts?
- Thread starter The M.O.B
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Almost everyone in this thread will have to eat their hats
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=477923&highlight=
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=477923&highlight=
I dunno... I still attribute a lot of the game design brilliance partially to nostalgia and partially because Valve's design was so strong all those years ago.
But whatever. It's pretty good. And very impressive.
StarCreator
Member
"Cease and desist!... or some shit."
Hahahahah
Hahahahah
Rickenslacker
Banned
Only just got to We've Got Hostiles, but man this game is full of details. It was a real nice touch when the sprinklers went off after I set some zombies on fire as mentioned some posts back. Also the crowbar feels so good to use in this, much better than the original or even HL2.
I'm enjoying the twists on the classic level designs that take me for a loop because the original is so ingrained in my memory. Though some of the dialogue is super goofy; namely the roflcopter mention and the guard in the lunchroom with the myriad of "Make like a X and X" lines. It also sounded like Cookie Monster was the thing in the vents devouring the scientists in Office Complex.
Edit: Just got the MP5. Nice.
I'm enjoying the twists on the classic level designs that take me for a loop because the original is so ingrained in my memory. Though some of the dialogue is super goofy; namely the roflcopter mention and the guard in the lunchroom with the myriad of "Make like a X and X" lines. It also sounded like Cookie Monster was the thing in the vents devouring the scientists in Office Complex.
Edit: Just got the MP5. Nice.
Dictator93
Member
And they did it right.
Play this vs. the first. You can see THIS team's talent is shining through.
Metal Gear?!
Member
The addition of PHYSICS to HL1 is fantastic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW9vJfI3Nns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW9vJfI3Nns
No, actually Valve likes to wait until a mod team has actually released something. So the members are definitely ripe for the picking now.
Rickenslacker
Banned
Looking back it's funny how people lost their shit over the video with iron sights on the .357 and the extrapolated implications it had on the core of the game, namely that it would be designed for more slower movement and gunplay. Couldn't have possibly been more wrong. Flipped on the Always Run option and it truly brings me back to what I enjoyed about FPSes.
You should really go back and see it for yourself, Half-Life had load spots everywhere, it's just that they happen to be instantaneous. Can't quite tell if it's my own faulty memory but I feel there are less load spots than the original so far.
I know they had this in HL: Source, but the bit of swing you get when you jump from the hanging containers is nice.
Played this a bit. It's better than expected. They did a pretty great job with the early game stuff (the tram ride, NPCs, non-interactive scenes).
I'm only at We've Got Hostiles, but switching between BMS and HL1 today, I find that, at least so far, I'm having more fun with the original when compared to the darker, more visually cluttered maps, seemingly less aggressive soldiers, and less dangerous Vortigaunts in BMS.
Might play more of it tomorrow, we'll see if I see it through. I might be more likely to do another playthrough of Source.
I'm only at We've Got Hostiles, but switching between BMS and HL1 today, I find that, at least so far, I'm having more fun with the original when compared to the darker, more visually cluttered maps, seemingly less aggressive soldiers, and less dangerous Vortigaunts in BMS.
Might play more of it tomorrow, we'll see if I see it through. I might be more likely to do another playthrough of Source.
-BLITZ-
Member
Okay, now I have a bit of a problem. Crashes exactly after I turn on the huge fan to burn them with the rocket fuel. After it starts spinning, crashes.
After I little search,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1k6kkw80WE
http://forums.blackmesasource.com/showthread.php?t=12932
I will try this out.
Yep, you need to kill the security zombie first. At least it fixes the problem and I can continue playing.
After I little search,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1k6kkw80WE
http://forums.blackmesasource.com/showthread.php?t=12932
I will try this out.
Yep, you need to kill the security zombie first. At least it fixes the problem and I can continue playing.
jediyoshi
Member
oh lord that thread. good times.
The Vortigaunts seem a lot tougher to me than in the original. Then again, I don't have the shotgun yet. You did make sure to change Black Mesa's difficulty to Normal or higher, right? For me, the game defaulted to Easy.
Yeah, playing both on Hard. The Vortigaunts seemed pretty similar at a distance, behavior-wise, but in Black Mesa they go down safely with a crowbar if you bait them around a corner, as it seems like their melee attacks get interrupted or they take damage faster or something. I could be wrong.
I think the melee attacks for the zombies and vorts need to be tweaked. Zombies in HL1 did a double swipe, now they only single swipe, so if you're in close you don't take as much damage.
Vorts need to be able to cut off their shock animation to attack if you get close.
Played through today on Medium, going to give Hard a whirl soon, probably tomorrow.
This is my GotY at the moment. HL1 is my favourite game of all time and this is just an utterly brilliant remake.
Vorts need to be able to cut off their shock animation to attack if you get close.
Played through today on Medium, going to give Hard a whirl soon, probably tomorrow.
This is my GotY at the moment. HL1 is my favourite game of all time and this is just an utterly brilliant remake.
Rickenslacker
Banned
Yeah, those impressions were definitely warranted given how scant the info was. Just glad it didn't end up being the case.
MilkLizard
Member
Luxembourg here too. Try the torrent, works perfect here. Around 600 KB/s atm...
GraveHorizon
poop meter feature creep
I bought the Valve Complete Pack a few months ago, and have yet to play HL1 due to an increased backlog. I've played
it before, but I only got to the Xen portal room (couldn't get through the portal before dying). On my future playthrough, I was planning on using Half-Life: Source with the HD Pack, but this looks pretty interesting. Should I go with BMS instead of HLS/HD Pack?
I won't be playing for a while, since I still have to get through Mass Effect 2 and 3 before doing anything, so I would rather wait for it to be on Steam than get it anywhere else.
pirated
I won't be playing for a while, since I still have to get through Mass Effect 2 and 3 before doing anything, so I would rather wait for it to be on Steam than get it anywhere else.
Here is my 2c:
- I am currently in Office Complex. So far game is amazing. Black Mesa devs did amazing thing imo to recreate faithfully HL1 even soup event in kitchen. I like some changes to level design. Thanks to better lightning office complex is far better than in original.
- VA. This is suprise. Aside from few lines most of VA is good. Sure Eli sounds diffrent but it isn't worse VA. Kleiner VA is amazing it is how he sounds in HL2. They added a lot of lines in complex. Love it so far.
- Graphic is nice. There are few sections that feel outdated but also there are sections which feel good.
- Bug-free not a single bug yet.
If it was 30$ release i would gladly buy it.
- I am currently in Office Complex. So far game is amazing. Black Mesa devs did amazing thing imo to recreate faithfully HL1 even soup event in kitchen. I like some changes to level design. Thanks to better lightning office complex is far better than in original.
- VA. This is suprise. Aside from few lines most of VA is good. Sure Eli sounds diffrent but it isn't worse VA. Kleiner VA is amazing it is how he sounds in HL2. They added a lot of lines in complex. Love it so far.
- Graphic is nice. There are few sections that feel outdated but also there are sections which feel good.
- Bug-free not a single bug yet.
If it was 30$ release i would gladly buy it.
Once they release the final chapters I'd recommend new HL players this over the original, disregarding all the gameplay and visual enhancements it connects much more smoothly to Half Life 2 while retaining the original atmosphere. Though you should really play the original plus expansions as well at some stage.
GraveHorizon
poop meter feature creep
If I finish my backlog before they complete the game (and put it on Steam), I'll just go ahead with the original. Though I'll probably want to play BMS afterward to compare. And I was going to haul my desktop over to my friend's house just so he could experience Half-Life 1, so BMS would probably be just right for him. Don't want slightly dated graphics to lower his opinion of a great game.
EvilDick34
Banned
Now i understand why Elektrixx was shitting up this thread with the quotes below, this is his post from the black mesa source screenshots in June of this year. I wonder Elektrixx if you and all the other haters are secretly playing this game and either still trolling BMS or will never post in here that it is actually a great mod.
EvilDick34
Banned
I hate ironsights in any game, dont care for them but i have been using the ironsight on the revolver and i love it in this mod.
Second, i was in love with the phsyics applied to the hanging container room, even though it was not super hard to traverse this room, it still made it more challenging then the one in the original HL.
reptilescorpio
Member
Wow. The updated textures alone make this a must play. Some of the voicework and sound effects are good, others certainly remind you this is a free mod. Looks and plays fantastic, along with a lot of awesome little touches that are filled with love. Just finished the test chamber so no combat yet but man, feels so good to have a new coat of paint!
Music integration is terrible though! Stepping into the HEV suit starts up a techno track? Not too bad when you turn it righhhhhhht down but still disappointing they didn't go for more musical cues followed by ambient tracks. Save the pumping stuff for the marines.
Certainly worth spending all day downloading the 5GB or so of stuff to play it. Great work guys!
Music integration is terrible though! Stepping into the HEV suit starts up a techno track? Not too bad when you turn it righhhhhhht down but still disappointing they didn't go for more musical cues followed by ambient tracks. Save the pumping stuff for the marines.
Certainly worth spending all day downloading the 5GB or so of stuff to play it. Great work guys!
I just love comparing rooms in my memory to rooms as they are now. The art direction and the way they've managed to make the rooms transfer over is simply brilliant. Places that were just levels to me back in the day feel like they actually have a point - warehouse, freezer, office, cafeteria. It's really cool.
EvilDick34
Banned
How far into the game are you? I just got to the point where i just started fighting the marines. Honestly i have not played OG HL since HL2 came out so while i do remember quite a bit about it, there are still tons of things that i cannot quite remember how it played and looked so when i am down with BMS i am going to play OG HL and compare.
eot
Banned
Bullsquids are terrifying in this game. They used to be a joke in HL1 (just strafe dodge) but it's much harder to dodge their attack now.
I totally agree. The setpieces don't get in the way of normal gameplay. The are memorable levels and moments that don't include a new gimmick every time.
I totally agree. The setpieces don't get in the way of normal gameplay. The are memorable levels and moments that don't include a new gimmick every time.
EvilDick34
Banned
You need the Source SDK base 2007 only.
Restart Steam, it'll appear in your gamesl ist.
Metalmurphy
Member
Reboot steam and it will be in the library.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
Not really. Someone who toiled a way on just a portion of a remake of a game for 8 years isn't really appealing to Valve the way someone who understands their limitations and makes a rather large portion of content alone in spite of it while also setting up a mythos around the mod's story building up to each episode's release with cryptic messages and ARG puzzles is.
Showing a deftness with the Source SDK doesn't suddenly make you "Valve material."
abracadaver
Member
When will this be released on steam greenlight ? I dont want to install torrent downloading stuff. It will still be free on greenlight right ?
i've been told i need to switch the language of the steam to english to get subtitles, can anyone confirm this?
paperboywriter
Member
Is black Mesa coming directly to steam? If so, is there any release date?
jediyoshi
Member
Yes. There's plenty of non torrent mirrors, check OP again. Their site also lists AUS and EUR mirrors.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
Yes, it will be free on Steam.
Yes it is and we have no idea when it will come. They said they will be incorporating Steamworks features so they still have work to do on that release.
The bullsquid attack is one of the coolest things about the mod.