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[Mr Moose]

They specifically said over half of the CONSOLE players were on xbox.

Gamepass has 30 million subscribers. Even if only 1/3rd of them installed the game, thats more than double what the PS5 sold on launch day.

Ultimate?

 

[Mister Wolf]

 

[SlimySnake]

Ultimate?

yes, this was before they added tiers. not sure what it is now.

 

[Mr Moose]

yes, this was before they added tiers. not sure what it is now.

There's 30M GPU on Xbox? Wasn't the total with 9M Gold only 34M?

 

[Topher]

Cause he's saying something positive about Xbox.

I guess he was a bit more trustworthy in September.

News - Drama - Rumor - eXtas1s: The majority of employees I have spoken are completely confused about Xbox's general strategy

According to several Xbox employees, the internal situation is quite complex between the layoffs and changes they have made in recent months: "The majority of employees I have spoken are completely confused about Xbox's general strategy." The recent dismissals in Xbox and Activision have even...

www.neogaf.com

But in that case this guy was just saying stuff that had already been stated by Jason Shreier.

Bloomberg: Xbox’s ‘Exclusive’ Video Game Strategy Leaves Everyone Confused

Whole article: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2024-08-23/xbox-s-exclusive-video-game-strategy-leaves-everyone-confused Jason Schreier: ''The problem with Xbox's new vision isn't that the company is moving away from console exclusives. The problem is that their release strategy is...

www.neogaf.com

Xbox’s ‘Exclusive’ Video Game Strategy Leaves Everyone Confused

Hi everyone. Today we’re trying to figure out just what the heck Xbox is doing, but first...

www.bloomberg.com

 

[FoxMcChief]

Nice for Xbox shareholders I guess

Does this bother you?

 

[HogIsland]

i doubt all these stats

 

[FoxMcChief]

Are they really counting PC gamers as "xbox players"?

Technically PS5 players are Xbox gamers when playing Xbox games.

 

[Josemayuste]

Does this bother you?

Yeah sure, it bothers me, it bothers my PS5, my Xbox Series X, my Switch OLED and my Steam Deck OLED is bothered too by this.

 

[baphomet]

Don't forget, he also said this was the first time ever that more people were playing CoD on Xbox than PlayStation.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Not a good day for Playstation fanboys

Sure it is. They still have access to the super successful Xbox franchise Call of Duty.

 

[PurePlatinum]

The biggest question is the split between PC GamePass and Steam. How many people are going to sub for > 2 months and then bounce?

 

[clarky]

The biggest question is the split between PC GamePass and Steam. How many people are going to sub for > 2 months and then bounce?

Steam numbers are also great. Then you have Bnet as well.

 

[RickMasters]

GAF the other day: “ if COD fails on gamepass… it’s over for gamepass… yay! Physical media rooooolz!xbox is dead”


Gaf today after reading my more people o are playing blops on gamepass than on a PS: “ it’s all lies! Noooooo way”

 

[RickMasters]

I would caution that those that are playing on GP likely won’t stick with it. They likely prefer variety over sticking to one game considering they are paying for gamepass.

Lets see the numbers in three months. I doubt Xbox will remain the primary driver of BLOPS6 gaming traffic.

I been playing COD on GP endlessly since MW3 dropped on GP. It was kind of surreal to just load up my Xbox and notice Blops 6 was already installed. I’ll be playing it right up until the next cod….. but of course ill
Be playing indy, avowed and stalker 2 alongside it……


All while I still have a ridiculous backlog, across Xbox and PC.


I can’t speak for others but as a gamer I love this situation. Sometimes I don’t even know what to play….. too many choices…. so I just load up COD and work out what I wanna play next. GP is awesome like that.

 

[RickMasters]

No matter what Microsoft is going to keep the conversation focused on engagement and game pass. They'll certainly downplay unit sales.

Engagement usually leads to the sale of DLC. The more time you invest in a game the more likely you are to buy add ins for it. It’s not like MS are the of my ones who focus on egagement….. pretty sure if concord had high engagement it would have lasted a while longer…. Or maybe not… apparently it sucked beyond repair….


All I’m saying is all these companies look at engagement as a metric of success outside of hard sales….games like fortnight are making all the money and you don’t even buy those games up front….. do you see epic stressin about it?

 

[twilo99]

I would caution that those that are playing on GP likely won’t stick with it. They likely prefer variety over sticking to one game considering they are paying for gamepass.

Lets see the numbers in three months. I doubt Xbox will remain the primary driver of BLOPS6 gaming traffic.

You can primarily play CoD and take breaks with other games along the way.. that’s what GP is good for

 

[mrqs]

Unlikely.

 

[hemo memo]

So we only believe eXtas1s when the Xbox news is negative?

Got it.

Another o...

 

[clarky]

Another o...

Go on im on tender hooks here.

 

[hemo memo]

Go on im on tender hooks here.

Enjoy.

 

[clarky]

Based on the 8% (xbox) and 16% (playstation) figures shared in this thread, the number of xbox players would likely have needed a ~100% increase over previous years. I'll leave that up to you guys to determine how feasible or not that is.

Looks like a 159% increase from this source.

Call of Duty sees 159% spike in Xbox players following Black Ops 6 Game Pass launch

Following the launch of Black Ops 6, the Call of Duty Xbox player count has risen by a whopping 159%, suggesting this year's COD is a hit with fans.

www.trueachievements.com

 

[sainraja]

Seriously?

If they're just giving subs (temporarily) away for free, then I wouldn't be surprised to see the numbers balloon. That just moves the goalpost out a while longer then. When they stop giving it away for free, how many people remain subscribed?

The point isn't to balloon the numbers. I think the idea is to introduce Game Pass to people and since it is being shared by an existing subscriber, it might have more "weight" since they are essentially recommending it. How successful that it ends up being in the long term remains to be seen but I don't think they are trying to balloon the numbers.

 

[GHG]

Looks like a 159% increase from this source.

Call of Duty sees 159% spike in Xbox players following Black Ops 6 Game Pass launch

Following the launch of Black Ops 6, the Call of Duty Xbox player count has risen by a whopping 159%, suggesting this year's COD is a hit with fans.

www.trueachievements.com

 

[Ozriel]

You think the playerbase for COD remains the same one month after launch? Millions of gamers play the game only for the campaign or a few weeks of the multi-player before moving on

Apparently, only around 10% of players stick around to finish the campaign for COD games. I’m also not sure a lot of folks are paying $70 just to play the usually short campaigns.

The multiplayer is by far the most important component…and people tend to play that for awhile.

More players on xbox compared to ps
Free game vs paid game.

Rocket science uh?

Free?

 

[sainraja]

I am not sure why we are debating whether or not COD engagement is going to go up on Xbox. It is going to go up because the game was added to Game Pass. COD has always been a big title and its never needed Game Pass for engagement, so we know MS wants it to boost GS subs, is it doing that? That should be the question if anything lol...anyway it shouldn't surprise anyone because it is COD.

Engagement is going to go up. If GS subscribers weren't playing COD, they are now. If they were paying before and have a sub, now they are playing it via GP sub. What this translates to long term for Game Pass remains to be seen IMO.

 

[TehGoomba7s]

So we only believe eXtas1s when the Xbox news is negative?

Got it.

He's been wrong before.

 

[clarky]

Decent sample size you think?

 

[StueyDuck]

Hasn't this guy got a questionable rep.

The real numbers will come out eventually, may as well wait a week then react to something right now.

If it is truly the best cod has done in 10 years old Philly boy will be frothy at his loins just to get the word out (to prove the actiblizz purchase wasn't a bust)

 

[mayham2199]

There's no way this is the first time Xbox has had more players the PS. Your telling me 360 had less COD players than the PS3 BS. This guy was also instantly debunked by Warren during his last "rumor".

 

[twilo99]

Steam numbers are also great. Then you have Bnet as well.

We never get numbers from that bnet launcher... I'm surprised they haven't rolled into xbox yet

 

[GHG]

Decent sample size you think?

Not a bad sample size by any means, but by virtue of it predominantly being true achievements accounts it will be people more engaged with the platform (and gaming in general) than your average user.

One thing is for certain though, if any of these touted numbers turn out to be true it won't take long for Microsoft to shout them from the rooftops while they are still hot.

 

[clarky]

Not a bad sample size by any means, but by virtue of it predominantly being true achievements accounts it will be people more engaged with the platform (and gaming in general) than your average user.

One thing is for certain though, if any of these touted numbers turn out to be true it won't take long for Microsoft to shout them from the rooftops while they are still hot.

Brace yourself if true.
Although i still can't figure out if it will be a win for MS or not. Seems reckless at a glance putting it on gamepass day one. We won't know for sure if this has worked out for them for quite a while,one weekend doesn't mean much to be fair in the bigger picture.

We never get numbers from that bnet launcher... I'm surprised they haven't rolled into xbox yet

Yean I know, be better if Xbox rolled into Bnet on PC though. Thats a perfectly good launcher and platform going to waste while we get forced into dealing with the store.

 

[hlm666]

Makes sense, Concords massive success has sucked the playerbase away from what had been the popular games so it's probably not more xbox players as much as it's just less ps players because they are busy with concord.

sorry, not sorry.

 

[HeWhoWalks]

Makes sense, Concords massive success has sucked the playerbase away from what had been the popular games so it's probably not more xbox players as much as it's just less ps players because they are busy with concord.

sorry, not sorry.

I’d certainly be sorry about mindless rambling.

 

[BennyBlanco]

I’m sure they are counting GP PC users as Xbox users. As long as exec bonuses are tied to these metrics I expect them to twist themselves into pretzels to fudge the numbers. On a side note:

Spoiler

this game is fun and I really like it

 

[clarky]

I’m sure they are counting GP PC users as Xbox users. As long as exec bonuses are tied to these metrics I expect them to twist themselves into pretzels to fudge the numbers. On a side note:

Spoiler

this game is fun and I really like it

Theres no indication that that is the case. The tweet even separates the two.

 

[clarky]

Makes sense, Concords massive success has sucked the playerbase away from what had been the popular games so it's probably not more xbox players as much as it's just less ps players because they are busy with concord.

sorry, not sorry.

Funny you started your post with "makes sense"

 

[Jigsaah]

Did Playstation folks boycott BLOPS6? I find it hard to believe Xbox players outnumber Playstation players.

Really good game btw. Runs flawlessly on PC.

 

[Orbital2060]

 

[Little Chicken]

Scientists HATE her

 

[Schmendrick]

All I´m reading here is that a significant amount of players didn`t pay extra for the game.....
And all that´s missing from the headline is the usual bullshit term "engagement"

 

[analog_future]

Suuuuure

All of this sounds like bullshit. lol

Same source of Microsoft multiplatform push slow downed or paused a few days before Nadella stated the opposite to shareholders?
Wait for something official.

Engagement

Did this person misunderstand the numbers?

Are they really counting PC gamers as "xbox players"?

It is kind of mpossible more players on xbox only counting console.

My thoughts exactly. Smells like "engagement" bullshit.

If the PR machinery isn't at full force by now is because they are having a real bad time figuring out a way to spin whatever happened with BO6.

Half truths like the "34 million Game Pass" subscribers earlier this year are easily caught nowadays and the "engagement" BS has really short legs.

Yup.

i doubt all these stats

Unlikely.

 

[HeWhoWalks]

Salt.

So you chose to be salty with all those options available? Nice.

 

[clarky]

Bit early to be breaking the salt out over a tweet from a source that has a 50/50 chance of being right or wrong.

You could end up with all that salt ruining your steak if you are not careful.

 

[Kvally]

Free game

 

[RickMasters]

So we only believe eXtas1s when the Xbox news is negative?

Got it.

Basically….. yup. And if you like any MS 1st party games you are probably a shill. GAF logic…. ‘How can you like anything made by Xbox?’

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Phil Spencer:

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

You think my engagement post was salt?

 

[jm89]

There's 30M GPU on Xbox? Wasn't the total with 9M Gold only 34M?

Yeah was 34m including gold.