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[Rhapsody]

Tried Izayoi for a while in training mode. I find some of the timing required for her combo's to be too strict.

How is combo difficulty in Guilty Gear? It seems that combo's in general are shorter there than in Blazblue.

It's harder than BB's depending on the characters, but a lot of players make them harder than they should be.
GG has more character/weight specific combos which has to be altered the further you go down the reps.

But that isn't too much of a problem if you know about how move properties work, which is why I stress that people should learn the ins and outs of their normals before going to combo transcripts (i.e. if you know j.HS helps juggle them higher instead of lower, etc). FRCs aren't too difficult. They're no different than links. People just have problems because their timing screws up if they did their previous gatling/cancel earlier or later.

Also I guess GG doesn't have that button hold input buffer that BB does. But BB doesn't have negative edging for specials that GG does.

 

[QisTopTier]

Anyone down for some games later today?

 

[RoeBear]

Anyone down for some games later today?

PS4

I'll probably be down around 9 central, but only if you play Amane. I want to see what all the fuss is about.

 

[QisTopTier]

Just toss me an invite whenever you are ready I've only been playing amane lately

 

[RoeBear]

Carl is scared as hell of Amane...

That english "I want you so bad" creepy

 

[QisTopTier]

I really need to play more lag friendly characters -_-

 

[RoeBear]

That reset seemed to help a bit. I gotta call my ISP tomorrow though...

Edit: Dang those high damage combos are pretty.

 

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

It's harder than BB's depending on the characters, but a lot of players make them harder than they should be.
GG has more character/weight specific combos which has to be altered the further you go down the reps.

But that isn't too much of a problem if you know about how move properties work, which is why I stress that people should learn the ins and outs of their normals before going to combo transcripts (i.e. if you know j.HS helps juggle them higher instead of lower, etc). FRCs aren't too difficult. They're no different than links. People just have problems because their timing screws up if they did their previous gatling/cancel earlier or later.

Also I guess GG doesn't have that button hold input buffer that BB does. But BB doesn't have negative edging for specials that GG does.

I usually opt to learn combo's that don't need to be modified on a per character basis since I don't want to risk getting them mixed up with other characters and combos.

How exactly does negative edging help for specials? I guess it makes sense if the special is on the same button you last pressed before it needs to be inputted.

 

[Beats]

It took me awhile to get adjusted to the combo timing in this. It doesn't really help that I've been mostly playing Skullgirls (which isn't very strict at all) the past couple of months lol.

I'm still kinda bad, but does anyone want to play? PSN is Beats00.

 

[Prototype-03]

I usually opt to learn combo's that don't need to be modified on a per character basis since I don't want to risk getting them mixed up with other characters and combos.

How exactly does negative edging help for specials? I guess it makes sense if the special is on the same button you last pressed before it needs to be inputted.

I think character specific combos are inevitable. There's always universal combos but some will do more damage depending on the character you are facing. Negative edging helps because it's two inputs in one press (one input when pressing, another when letting go), so you have two chances to input the special.

 

[SolarKnight]

Anyone wants to get a late lobby going or something?

 

[Zissou]

Is there a resource out there that gives a short blurb on each character (gameplay-wise)? Basically I'm looking for the blazblue equivalent of this so I can get a rough idea of how each character plays and decide who I want to try and learn.

 

[Karsticles]

Is there a resource out there that gives a short blurb on each character (gameplay-wise)? Basically I'm looking for the blazblue equivalent of this so I can get a rough idea of how each character plays and decide who I want to try and learn.

IMO, just go to Dustloop and watch a gameplay video of each character.

 

[Canti.]

Is there a resource out there that gives a short blurb on each character (gameplay-wise)? Basically I'm looking for the blazblue equivalent of this so I can get a rough idea of how each character plays and decide who I want to try and learn.

LK did a basic overview for each character. (Kokonoe wasn't out yet when he made this.)
http://www.twitch.tv/lordknight/c/3166702
http://www.twitch.tv/lordknight/c/3166754

There's always Dustloop or Jourdal youtube channel if you want to go more into details.

 

[QisTopTier]

LOL damn, Kokonoe's JPN voice is horrible

 

[Tizoc]

I seem to prefer Hakumen's theme the most of out CP's remixes.

When's the US release date again?

 

[cj_iwakura]

I seem to prefer Hakumen's theme the most of out CP's remixes.

When's the US release date again?

February.

 

[Prototype-03]

February.

I thought it was March

 

[sixteen-bit]

I thought it was March

It is March.

 

[QisTopTier]

TRANSLATIONS TRANSLATIONS EVERYWHERE

Also god damn I put up with learning Amane just cause I think these are some of the most satisfying combos to do since I've played taskmaster. They kinda have the same flow to them really

 

[sixteen-bit]

TRANSLATIONS TRANSLATIONS EVERYWHERE

Oh wow internet does what Aksys doesn't!

 

[cj_iwakura]

Oh wow internet does what Aksys doesn't!

A story mode as huge as that takes time to translate, you know.

 

[Tizoc]

TRANSLATIONS TRANSLATIONS EVERYWHERE

Also god damn I put up with learning Amane just cause I think these are some of the most satisfying combos to do since I've played taskmaster. They kinda have the same flow to them really

Fuck's sake Japan, that is NOT what my country looks like!

 

[SolarKnight]

Is anyone up for a lobby?

 

[Zissou]

IMO, just go to Dustloop and watch a gameplay video of each character.

LK did a basic overview for each character. (Kokonoe wasn't out yet when he made this.)
http://www.twitch.tv/lordknight/c/3166702
http://www.twitch.tv/lordknight/c/3166754

There's always Dustloop or Jourdal youtube channel if you want to go more into details.

Thanks for the advice. After watching the lordknight stuff and some other vids, I think I'm going to try and main Kokonoe- though she seems like a kind of busted character- straight up touch you once and can umvc3zero you to death with unblockables in the corner into crazy damage combos ad infinitum. I still hate having to double tap directions to dash, but I'm sure I'll get used to it

Spoiler

if only I had a hitbox...

. Is there even a minimum airdash height?

 

[Tizoc]

Has it really been that long GAF?

 

[QisTopTier]

Anyone down for some games?

 

[OceanBlue]

Anyone down for some games?

I want to play! I'm really bad and on the EC so hopefully it isn't too bad. My PSN name is HarukaIsMyWaifu.

 

[SolarKnight]

If you're still there in two hours I want to try playing

 

[QisTopTier]

I want to play! I'm really bad and on the EC so hopefully it isn't too bad. My PSN name is HarukaIsMyWaifu.

Sure I'll toss ya an invite in a second

If you're still there in two hours I want to try playing

I should be

 

[cj_iwakura]

For even you most devout of original VA followers.

Go play against a Japanese voiced Platinum. Reconsider.

Think of my sanity.

 

[QisTopTier]

For even you most devout of original VA followers.

Go play against a Japanese voiced Platinum. Reconsider.

Think of my sanity.

Trinity's voice is pretty bad

 

[OceanBlue]

This is brutal lol. I can't stop myself from backdashing and chicken blocking but I'm too scared.

 

[QisTopTier]

This is brutal lol. I can't stop myself from backdashing and chicken blocking but I'm too scared.

Get in my face and press buttons. That's pretty much what you need to do

 

[Rhapsody]

For even you most devout of original VA followers.

Go play against a Japanese voiced Platinum. Reconsider.

Think of my sanity.

Luna's voice is probably the only JP voice I don't like, but pretty much everyone also thinks her VA recording isn't good in BBCP. I like the rest though. English VAs... it varies. Don't like English Kokonoe or Hazama.

 

[QisTopTier]

Luna's voice is probably the only JP voice I don't like, but pretty much everyone also thinks her VA recording isn't good in BBCP. I like the rest though. English VAs... it varies. Don't like English Kokonoe or Hazama.

Wut how can you like JPN Kokonoe it's so lifeless and dull

 

[cj_iwakura]

Luna's voice is probably the only JP voice I don't like, but pretty much everyone also thinks her VA recording isn't good in BBCP. I like the rest though. English VAs... it varies. Don't like English Kokonoe or Hazama.

New Hazama is meh, but he went all in for Terumi.

And what? English Kokonoe is civilization.

If you want to whine about "I'll just read a guide online" then you can piss off!

 

[OceanBlue]

Get in my face and press buttons. That's pretty much what you need to do

I'm not exactly sure how go pressure with Jin so I'm kinda winging that lol.

 

[cj_iwakura]

Susano-O II... should've sent a poet.Now that's an arrange.

 

[QisTopTier]

Playing Amane makes me want a bag of these

 

[Rhapsody]

I'm not exactly sure how go pressure with Jin so I'm kinda winging that lol.

I actually picked up Jin just recently. Even my day 1 Jin gave my local friends issues lol

Once Jin gets in though, Amane's going to have a lot of issues. Midscreen you can end with 22C on a standing opponent if you don't care about corner carry at the moment. Free pressure afterwards pretty much, and Amane can't reversal out without meter anyways. Corner combos end with 22C on a juggled opponent for a safe jump setup. j214C ender is good too if you opt for damage.

Basically do those things and just press buttons in his face since Jin's pretty scary. lol

 

[SolarKnight]

I should be

You guys still playing?

 

[QisTopTier]

You guys still playing?

Yup

 

[SolarKnight]

Oh ok, are you in a lobby or do I make one?

 

[cj_iwakura]

God Tsubaki's corner pressure is delicious.

 

[OceanBlue]

Playing Amane makes me want a bag of these

My poor life bar ;_;.

I actually picked up Jin just recently. Even my day 1 Jin gave my local friends issues lol

Once Jin gets in though, Amane's going to have a lot of issues. Midscreen you can end with 22C on a standing opponent if you don't care about corner carry at the moment. Free pressure afterwards pretty much, and Amane can't reversal out without meter anyways. Corner combos end with 22C on a juggled opponent for a safe jump setup. j214C ender is good too if you opt for damage.

Basically do those things and just press buttons in his face since Jin's pretty scary. lol

I'm actually really bad at getting the j214C ender lol. The jump cancel window on jumping moves is smaller than I thought. As for everything else, I'm not comfortable with the game enough so they're kinda hard to do lol. Too many things going on D:. Plus my pressure is still really weak.

 

[QisTopTier]

God Tsubaki's corner pressure is delicious.

She get's pretty good damage off any random hit at the cost of 25% meter now. Really helped her out. Plus her new super is great

 

[OceanBlue]

Okay guys, it's getting a bit late so I'm done for today! It was a lot of fun, even though I still don't know what to do against Amane other than guess DP on blockstrings . Plus, the connection was a lot better than I thought it'd be! Thanks for putting up with my scrubiness, lol.

Edit: Whoops, I didn't realize I was still in the lobby. My bad!

 

[QisTopTier]

Okay guys, it's getting a bit late so I'm done for today! It was a lot of fun, even though I still don't know what to do against Amane other than guess DP on blockstrings . Plus, the connection was a lot better than I thought it'd be! Thanks for putting up with my scrubiness, lol.

It's fine, you started getting the hang of it towards the end

 

[SolarKnight]

If those lag spikes are somehow my fault I apologize for that because it's very annoying.

@Ocean:GGs