rented the game to give it a try, i had played the first with mixed results since i play with randoms. It's about the same as before, playing with random people is a sometimes decent sometimes depressing waste of time and i doubt i'll be playing this game long. Loot hoarding is still an issue, oddly, especially after playing diablo 3 i'm kind of accustomed to actually having loot of my own. With 4 people i rarely get anything. Then the second main problem creeps in: A general sense of everyone wandering around and the game's many objectives become checked boxes with no context.