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Borderlands 2 |OT| Opening Pandora's Box (of Guns!)
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BenjaminBirdie
Banned
So, is this right?
Yeah, that's my plan. Seems like a really nice talent.
NoirVisage
Banned
yeah, its suprising to hear he's so rare, Michaels usually posted up somewhere holding heat every time i return to sanctuary on the PS3.
AFAIK, it goes 1 > 2 (NG+) > 2.5, which is just the leftover side missions.. There isn't any 1.5.
2.5 scales all the enemies to level 50.
I haven't seen him in my last 3 times playing.. basically, I don't think I've seen him a single time since
Sanctuary started floating
Raijin_Cain
Member
I dont think I have ever seen him. 
I wasnt searching before though.
I wasnt searching before though.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Okay, so describe this process to me. You beat the final boss. What happens. A thing comes up telling you to start the NG+ and all the quests are reset, even if there were some from PT1 you never finished?
Baconsammy
Banned
I usually only see him after I complete a story mission.
A message informs you that the game has only just begun, and tells you how to start True Vault Hunter mode, which resets all quests, but you retain your inventory, money, Badass points, and obviously your skills.
A message informs you that the game has only just begun, and tells you how to start True Vault Hunter mode, which resets all quests, but you retain your inventory, money, Badass points, and obviously your skills.
That could make sense. I haven't gone into the wild yet.. been knocking off side missions of which there are many.
I still see him but it's not nearly as frequently as it was prior to that.
Baconsammy
Banned
How did I miss this? I fed him, doctored him etc. Then he appeared to be just a repeatable quest so I left. I take it if I repeated it something good would happen?
It comes up later in the game, at least for me it it has.
multiple times did I just say fuck it I'm doing something else and just left her be til I was over leveled.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
"How to start," meaning you can still beat all the quests in regular before you follow those directions to start NG+?
Sorry if I'm making this more complicated than it is, just wondering if I should make sure I get all my quests done before Final Bawse.
the_prime_mover
Member
This was the part of the game that really started to get under my skin. Huge aoe and those damn homing electric bursts that have massive splash radius. Ultimately i just crouched behind the elevator controls and was able to cheese her without taking any damage at all... I hope this works in ng+ but all this talk of saving my side quests until after i beat tvhm has me thinking i should put it off until then.
Somebody here gave me a great truck for Dukino's mom (sorry, forgot your name!).
Stay in the elevator that takes you down to its room. There's a little wall on the elevator platform that you can use to hide from the big laser beam.
Duck for the beam and just shoot non stop the rest of the time. Worked flawlessly for me on my first try yesterday.
Stay in the elevator that takes you down to its room. There's a little wall on the elevator platform that you can use to hide from the big laser beam.
Duck for the beam and just shoot non stop the rest of the time. Worked flawlessly for me on my first try yesterday.
Baconsammy
Banned
You have the option to go back to the world you semi-completed, or to move on to a brand new world with much harder enemies and as I said you retain everything from before. Choosing to start anew doesn't stop you from returning to the other if you feel like it.
bigwinnerx
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I haven't seen Michael since about level 8. And I'm level 22 now. And up to Chapter 15 in the story. He just hasn't materialized again.
MagicWithEarvin
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Just stay behind the elevator console ;p
That's if you're farming for the Legendary launcher of course.
toastyToast
Member
A quest from the Sanctuary bounty board sends you back
Psy-Phi
Member
I haven't seen Michael at all. And I'm level 23 on one character and 18 on another.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Ah, okay. So it spawns like a new "Maya" that shows up in your character list.
Love the option to skip story missions you have already done during co-op playthroughs, just wish there was some fix to allow for relative level scaling when playing co-op
This would be nice but they'd have to change a lot of the game to work with it. They would have to make loot instanced or else there would still be no point in playing with your level 20 friend @ level 30 since everything would still be dropping level 20 loot but it'd be as hard as your normal level 30 missions and you'd be getting level 30 xp which would just make it increasingly difficult for you as you'd become more and more undegeared.
There is a bug on consoles where he shows up 100% of the time before a certain story mission then the regular 10% of the time after that. On PC it's always 10% chance he shows up in one of the 10 spots. I've only seen him once and I have a level 35 and a level 27.
bigwinnerx
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What's the 10% based on? Reloading Sanctuary? Completing a mission? After what does he have a 10% chance of showing up?
People on console have said he resets when you leave Sanctuary then come back so I guess 10% chance of him showing up when you load into Sanctuary but I'm not sure.
Err no, it just asks you to select between Normal and True Vault Hunter mode when you choose the Select a character option in the main menu. Don't worry about it.
the_prime_mover
Member
How do you farm her? Does she reappear after finishing that quest like other bosses? I never tried going back down there. I only got a sniper off her.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
Save, quit and reload. She will respawn.
The Dutch Slayer
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Edvardelis
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They suck, pretty much. Sniper rifles are better for long range, Shotguns for close range. For volume you want SMGs and if you want to plink even Pistols are better.
Only decent one I've found is a 3x Jacob's that has an actual useful spinny barrel (as opposed to taking forever to do any real damage) on it, and it's still not that great.
BurningNad
Member
"Tell my wife... She's a bitch..."
I fucking laughed so hard
I fucking laughed so hard
They need to tweak how Zero's skills works. If I am running forwards, it should drop it behind me. If I backpedal, it should drop in-front of me. Left and right movements should leave it the opposite side. I often use it to get the enemy to shoot the decoy, while I sit a few yards from it and line-up a headshot. Its actual uses for a decoy are few and far between, especially when you need it in panic mode.
Any other Zero players think it needs tweaking?
Any other Zero players think it needs tweaking?
Empty Space
Member
The decoy is fired from Zer0s hand and not something he drops once you realize that it makes perfect sense how it works.
That would be pretty awesome. For me it's just a 'free back up and reload' skill atm.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Ah, thank you! This explains it perfectly.
Fair enough but it still makes it pretty situational. It always dumps it right on the position you stand on, which leads it to randomly fill my screen up when I want to do a quick decoy snipe.
Raijin_Cain
Member
Fair enough but it still makes it pretty situational. It always dumps it right on the position you stand on, which leads it to randomly fill my screen up when I want to do a quick decoy snipe.
Usually I rush an enemy.
When I get close, I use Deception. The decoy goes "through" the enemy and appears behind him.
The enemy turns around, I back-stab. Works like a charm.
the_prime_mover
Member
Yeah, i agree. I usually use it to get away from a mob or someone who is shooting me in the back so I am always still between the enemies and my decoy taking fire... I also dislike that some types of projectiles will actually change direction if they are in the air when my decoy disappears. This seems to happen the most with those bad ass psychos.
Overall i dislike zer0s skill but i have decided to stick with him because of the time investment. Micheal gave me a shotgun that does about 30k damage + explosive and has a tight spread over range (very good for second wind) and last night i found a sniper rifle with a 24 bullet mag that shoots faster than most assault rifles, does a lot of damage and has very good stability and accuracy. I had respeced to melee but these two weapons are making me think i should go back the the sniping tree...
Up to the final boss and have to say have been really disappointed with the weapons compared to Borderlands 1.
There are far too many high-tech weapon scopes / sights that ruin weapons and the few normal weapon sights give you a weird zoom that is like 2x normal view.Even shotguns get ruined by the stupid scopes. Assault rifles are all also useless as is almost any weapon that has the burst fire ability.
The game is awesome but they dropped the ball on the weapons.
There are far too many high-tech weapon scopes / sights that ruin weapons and the few normal weapon sights give you a weird zoom that is like 2x normal view.Even shotguns get ruined by the stupid scopes. Assault rifles are all also useless as is almost any weapon that has the burst fire ability.
The game is awesome but they dropped the ball on the weapons.
Do to the random nature of the weapons i think that is an unfair assessment.
the_prime_mover
Member
I agree that many assault rifles are a huge let down. Typically the have very small magazine sizes (elementals that use 2 or 3 bullets per shot and have 20 round mags), poor stability, lower power and slower firing rates than most other options. Over the past 50 hours I have only used an assault rifle briefly because it had an 86 round mag and explosive (but slow reload, horrible accuracy and damage that was soon outclassed). Typically smgs and pistols provide better options.
Oh, and sniper rifles 8 round mags but burst fire and slow reloads - seems like a wierd design choice.
Is Siren a poor class? Seems like she might excel at coop if anything. Started one as my alt for playing coop with my brother and don't really want to start over again. Guess I just need my choice validated.
Really disappointed with the sniper rifles so far on my main character, zero. Are there any good ones that don't burst when zoomed? I'm starting to hate it, though my reload speed is getting faster.
Really disappointed with the sniper rifles so far on my main character, zero. Are there any good ones that don't burst when zoomed? I'm starting to hate it, though my reload speed is getting faster.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Like any class, good guns make all the difference. But Maya benefits huge from her ability to lock enemies down. If you spec into reduced phaselock CD and increased phaselock time, she's beast mode.
toastyToast
Member
It took about 40k for Moxxi to give up a second gun and it ended up being another corrosive SMG.
Granted, it does about triple the damage the first one she gave me but, still. Will she give me the fire one eventually or is this it?
Granted, it does about triple the damage the first one she gave me but, still. Will she give me the fire one eventually or is this it?
Rickenslacker
Banned
I'm at level 42 right now, but here's my plan for Siren by the time I get to 50: http://talent.87bazillion.com/2/siren.php?055001000044000000000505510541
Just trying to go for balls out damage. Using The Bee from PT1 and a 1.4k dmg Tediore SMG I'm managing about 150k damage on reload tosses.
Just trying to go for balls out damage. Using The Bee from PT1 and a 1.4k dmg Tediore SMG I'm managing about 150k damage on reload tosses.
I find phaselock to be the funnest of all the active skills, but I don't think she's bad at all. You can spec her out to be an awesome support character which is nice in co-op, but she has it in her to be beastly for solo play as well.
Empty Space
Member
You should probably go back and take a look at the guns in BL1 plenty of bizarre and way too powerful scope on shotguns with sub 50% accuracy.
Chain Reaction only works on the target that is phaselocked. The effects from elemental weapons can proc if they hit a new target. The only things that don't reflect are explosives, the needler style ammo from e-tech pistols, and the e-tech splatter guns. Its a great skill the idea with it is to Phaselock a high health enemy and fire an elemental smg at it. I've cleared an entire group of guys with one phaselocked target.
Just zoom out after you hit the trigger and it'll only fire one shot but yes there are good snipers that aren't burst fire you just have to get lucky, I guess.
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