Yeah i've seen it.
I was the one who posted it 
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Borderlands 2 |OT| Opening Pandora's Box (of Guns!)
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That's the X360 version.
StevePharma
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Expected yeah. A lot of streams will be popping up soon I guess. Ratio pirated:legit is probably 99:1
Not really, it's been like that for a while now thanks to Steam.
That always happens though doesn't it?
LiquidMetal14
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Not since devs smartened up and started pre-loading type services where you're missing essential data prior to launch. It's smart and at least curves piracy a little. It does frustrate me that some who are playing it are doing it illegally while those of us legit customers are waiting.
I don't remember many games leaking on 360 first. Care to give examples ?
And I also heard that some Steam games are hacked before their release, supposedly it's fairly rare but it happens.
I would be curious to know if Steam really curbs the piracy rate on PC. I can't find any data nor comments from pusblishers.
StevePharma
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Pretty much every game released this year
I don't remember many games leaking on 360 first. Care to give examples ?
And I also heard that some Steam games are hacked before their release, supposedly it's fairly rare but it happens.
I would be curious to know if Steam really curbs the piracy rate on PC. I can't find any data nor comments from pusblishers.
Seems like almost every AAA game leaks a week or two early on 360 whereas most don't on PC anymore thanks to steamworks. Piracy post-release is probably still higher on PC but Steam at least put a clamp down on pre-release piracy. I'm not sure how the situation is for non steamworks games like ubisoft titles.
I can't believe this.
Ubi Soft titles are heavily pirated according to Guillemot, their magical DRM must not have improved the situation apparently...Glad they tone it down.
Regarding Steamworks it must be effective if so many publishers side with it. But yes I do not think there is any question that piracy is still way more rampant on PC than it is on consoles.
Whatever, I don't want to derail the thread.
MagicWithEarvin
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It happens all the time with multi-platform releases, especially on 360. I just hope next-gen, security on consoles makes it so that it curbstomps hackers, but they always find ways. It took them a while to crack the PS3, so I guess Sony had the right idea.
I can't believe this.
Yep.
Pretty much every game leaks first on consoles, but no one talks about because... well, PC gaming is the evil!
fluffydelusions
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I don't remember many games leaking on 360 first. Care to give examples ?
And I also heard that some Steam games are hacked before their release, supposedly it's fairly rare but it happens.
I would be curious to know if Steam really curbs the piracy rate on PC. I can't find any data nor comments from pusblishers.
Lol, I don't even keep track anymore but yeah A LOT do.
I don't remember many games leaking on 360 first. Care to give examples ?
And I also heard that some Steam games are hacked before their release, supposedly it's fairly rare but it happens.
I would be curious to know if Steam really curbs the piracy rate on PC. I can't find any data nor comments from pusblishers.
Erm, 360 games have been leaking first consistently for years. Gears of War 2 being a famous example, but it was happening before that. Basically every big release - they don't have to crack anything so all they need to do is find a copy of the game.
Steamworks has been pretty effective. I've barely been paying attention to this stuff lately so all I really know is that Deus Ex took a while. I think Skyrim was cracked before release, but the 360 version was out before that too.
StevePharma
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French stream is already getting warnings from Twitch admins that he cannot stream before Sept 18th.
Apparently 2K is an exception
Apparently 2K is an exception
The Dutch Slayer
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About every game for the last 4 years
Nothing in depth but the Newegg video is nice.
Delusibeta
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Yeah, the 360 has been blown wide open by hard mods, and with Steam successfully clamping down on pre-release piracy this means that the 360 has become the format of choice for leaked copies.
MagicWithEarvin
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RadioactiveLobster
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Watch the Newegg video linked a while back, they were running it on high with a 660 Ti I believe
Depending on how many effects there were, it varied from 30 FPS to 100 FPS
Unknown what other settings they were using.
The Mana Legend
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So how many gigs is the game on PC?
The preload is 4.5 gigs, but I'm not sure how much they allow you to preload before the game is released.
The preload is 4.5 gigs, but I'm not sure how much they allow you to preload before the game is released.
MagicWithEarvin
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They were using a regular GTX 660 in the Newegg video, not the ti.
They actually used a 660(non Ti) in the video, which is pretty much on par with a 570 at 1080p. You should get similar performance as they do.
Terbinator
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Oh thanks I was not paying that much attention !
It looks very good but man fuck that Nvidia money hatting. Ati users should benefit from this too.
Wag
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From what I've read there are no PhysX options at all for non-nVidia cards. In some games (like Metro 2033, Batman series, etc) you have the option to run PhysX in software.
Terbinator
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I watched the NewEgg Physx video...ugh... It's really a perfect example for the "too much of a good thing" saying.
I like the idea of physx stuff but there's just WAY too many. It's like they want to justify themselves so they add 3x too many sparks everywhere. At that point it's just good for killing performances. I wish we could choose specifics effects we want.
For example, I'd be happy to get the cloth stuff and maybe the liquid if pc can run it at a good fps (gtx570) but I don't care for the thousands of sparks everytime I shoot something.
I like the idea of physx stuff but there's just WAY too many. It's like they want to justify themselves so they add 3x too many sparks everywhere. At that point it's just good for killing performances. I wish we could choose specifics effects we want.
For example, I'd be happy to get the cloth stuff and maybe the liquid if pc can run it at a good fps (gtx570) but I don't care for the thousands of sparks everytime I shoot something.
I'm the opposite. I want the sparks(maybe toned down a bit) but don't care about the liquid and cloth.
Hopefully there will be a way to tweak it to get only the effects we want.
blainethemono
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I have the PC version of BL1 with no DLC at all and it's 7 gigs
But if you can run all those effects will you complain ?
....no comment.
What did I say ?
Ok maybe I should have added the
Oh sorry I misunderstood your post.
Wag
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Well, the game uses PhysX libraries so of course it's going to be set to "low" without those particle effects options. Just that a few PC games give you the option to run PhysX particle effects in software as well as hardware. There really is no need to lock it into hardware only (other than to make it a nVidia exclusive deal that is).
legacyzero
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Only an FXAA option?
It seems so.
I never played borderlands but so far from what I read it looks promising. First person shooter, upgrades like a traditional RPG and the best of all coop. Maybe I'll install borderlands 1 that I got thanks to PlayStation plus to check it out. But I'm hesitant because I don't have much time and with re6 right around the corner I doubt I'll finish it right in time. Also by now why not jump straight to borderlands 2?
uncleniccius
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Just jump in to 2. Nothing story wise is to do with the original (or very little) and if you love it, yu could go back.
Just watch the character creation thing with ign and randg pitchford, i realised 2 things.
1, randy is awesome and 2, i want to play as every class. A decision is needed.
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