Oh I think they'll mess that up too. But Ken has been really awful in every department. WB looks like 2000's Fox right now, only without an Avatar.
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Box Office 0729-3116 - Bad to the Bourne, Trek continues to give 'er all she's got
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Anybody from the film divisions. He's just from the business of.. business, he doesn't know/care about good/bad, and he has no ability to discern between that.
There new CEO doesn't know what the hell he is doing he is trying to be Disney but again he is taking a wrong turn and it clearly shows.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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If Fantastic Beasts doesn't pan out, Tsujihara is greenlighting Matrix 4 and a Cursed Child adaptation so fast your head will spin.
Reminds me a little of late-Ricettiello period EA when they were trying and failing to emulate Activision.
CaviarMeths
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http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=dccomics.htm
21 DC films in the past 38 years have made $7.3b on the worldwide chart. There's 6 more films on the domestic list that add a few hundred million more.
If Fantastic Beasts doesn't pan out Tsujihara is greenlighting cars at the nearest intersection.
Probably not allowed at the federal level (comics monopoly).
Yabberwocky
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Sheesh, ouch. I'm still really surprised I've had friends reviewing (well, complaining) about it on FB, which is surprising, as not many usually bother. A friend's father went to town on it. I'd been waiting to see what the reaction was before seeing the film myself, and, yeah, pretty unimpressed.
Absolutely, as Viola Davis as Amanda Waller is amazing casting. I've really liked what I've seen of Margot Robbie's Harley, too.
alfredofroylan
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So... is there any reason to keep Snyder?
broncobuster
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He'll offer to build Nolan a skyscraper on a gimbal for Inception 2.
I believe Anti-trust laws come into play on this one. As in a major corporation cannot have a monopoly on a specific field of the market (comics). I'd be really fucking bummed out to see Marvel and DC under one roof. It wouldn't be right.
I'd rather have WB try to sort it out and get it right eventually than for Disney to get a hold of it.
CaviarMeths
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Maybe if Disney owned DC, we could have a hard-edged crime noir Netflix series starring Gotham City and its inhabitants. No prequel stuff, no metahumans, just Batman Detective Comics on screen.
There wasn't any reason to keep Snyder after he made 3 bombs in a row from 2009-2011. But it's nice to be a white dude and have rich friends.
There wasn't any reason to keep Snyder after he made 3 bombs in a row from 2009-2011. But it's nice to be a white dude and have rich friends.
He's out after Justice League for sure. I wonder who the hell is ghost directing that at the moment.
Though I do think his vision would be a great fit for movies like Suicide Squad. If only WB just let this movie plays out without interference.
Problem is going deadpool route is not the answer since that project was something that took so long for ryan reynolds and team to get it off to even make it. And now it is one of the biggest success ever from fox, also you can thank the leaked test footage that went viral because of it and you can thank the asshole who stopped it before who now is working at sony pictures.
That guy Tom Rothman is now the boss over there he hates superhero movies but came outside all of a sudden because of spiderman homecoming saying it is awesome.
This douchebag had a huge history trying everything as a CEO to sabotage all the hero movies and he succeeded with X-Men,X2 and even X3...Wolverine Origins etc.
So no WB need a CEO who understand movies all movies but also hero movies in a sense that makes people excited to see them. At this moment the whole board of directors at WB is a fucking mess it needs to be flushed out with a clean slate.
Yeezus H. Christ
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well no, that's not how it works
Studios get a rule-of-thumb 50% take from box office receipts, so if their production budget was $175 million (not allowing for the possibility that WB is fudging these numbers), marketing would have to be around the same to justify a $700 million break-even point ($175 + $175 = $350 x 2 = $700).
I can honestly see marketing being that damn expensive, they went all out promoting this thing. What's more is, we haven't factored in reshoot expenses as well, they can't have been cheap.
I was under the impression that the 175 million figure included the reshoot expenses.
Yeezus H. Christ
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If it does, then my point still stands. It's really an assumption how much it cost to market this film, but I can't imagine it was under $150 million.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Has anyone seen Indignation yet? I'm thinking of seeing it on Tuesday given the terrible response of Suicide Squad.
PhoncipleBone
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Is that the final part of the Insurgent series?
Yeezus H. Christ
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Ok, so box office experts, let's say SS has a $125 million OW with a 2.0 multiplier for a domestic take of $250 million, which is fair at this point. What can we expect worldwide, accounting for a lack of release in China?
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Nah, it's a film with Logan Lerman that's gotten really good critical praise. I'm just wondering if it's worth the price of admission.
And it's the Divergent series!
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/indignation
lmao
At least WB has exceptionally strong merchandise numbers behind SS
Yeezus H. Christ
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Answer my question above!
PhoncipleBone
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Nah, it's a film with Logan Lerman that's gotten really good critical praise. I'm just wondering if it's worth the price of admission.
And it's the Divergent series!
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/indignation
I know that you, of anyone, would catch my intentional snafu.
But, admit it, the title "Indignation" does sound like it would fit with the Allegiant series.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
You're doing it on purpose!
PhoncipleBone
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vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
PhoncipleBone
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Just do a crossover of Golden Boy, Downton Abbey, and the Ascendant series for the ultimate Theo James goulash!
Of course, WB could just buy out Lionsgate's share of the Veronica Rothverse and combine it with Suicide Squad and the Terminator Genisys timeline for the Jai Courtneyverse.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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And suddenly Kevin Tsujihara doesn't seem all that bad.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Well I 'aint no expert but we can make some guesses based on other DC movies.
Green Lantern (2011)
OW: $53M
DOM: $116M = 53% of WW
Multiplier: 2.18
Foreign: $103M = 47% of WW
WW: $219M
Man of Steel (2013)
OW: $116M
DOM: $291M = 44% of WW
Multiplier: 2.50
Foreign: $377M = 56% of WW
WW: 668M
Batman v Superman (2016)
OW: $166M
DOM: $330M = 38% of WW
Multiplier: 1.98
Foreign = $542M = 62.1% of WW
WW: $872M
At this point, $130M looks like it's close to the floor for the OW of Suicide Squad. I expect it to have better legs overall than BvS so let's go with roughly Green Lantern's 2.2 multiplier. Current WoM from overseas appears to be fairly strong, so let's give it Man of Steel's foreign percentage at about 55% That sounds about right to me without any help from China.
That would give us
OW: $130M
DOM: $286M
Foreign: $350M
WW: $636M
With a 60% total foreign, it'd be
Foreign: $429M
WW: $715M
But let's say its multiplier is a little better than Green Lantern's (still possible imo). If it gets a 2.5 multiplier and has a foreign gross comprising 55% of its total, we'd get
DOM: $325M
Foreign: $397M
WW: $722M
If I had to make a guess, I think it tops out at right about $700M WW.
twinturbo2
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The DCEU is the biggest creative disaster from a Time Warner property since the last year of WCW as a going concern, minus the hilariously awful Sting/Vampiro feud and David Arquette being there at all.
Chuck David Arquette into Justice League, maybe I'll watch it then.
Chuck David Arquette into Justice League, maybe I'll watch it then.
Dash_Riprock
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Suicide Squad super-decline confirmed:
Worse than expected? Fucking-A, this thing is gonna break Hulk's record next weekend, isn't it?
At this point I think a free-range chicken could do a better job.
8 X 11 Printer Paper
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Hulk will find a way, its the only "accomplishment" it won't give up.
PhoncipleBone
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At least my plan makes sense, even if I am just pulling it out of my ass to mess with Vinny.
You know I love ya, Vinny!
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
But most of the money should be in licensing and merchandise. Unless the OP meant only sell DC entertainment (movies) but I'm not sure how that would work since Disney wants IP.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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Saw Suicide Squad tonight.
Definitely get where that Friday-to-Saturday drop is coming from, lol.
Definitely get where that Friday-to-Saturday drop is coming from, lol.
Stop stealing my line
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