vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Domestic could be problematic, but overseas should play well no doubt. Especially in the UK, The BFG proved as much.
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Box Office 0729-3116 - Bad to the Bourne, Trek continues to give 'er all she's got
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Domestic could be problematic, but overseas should play well no doubt. Especially in the UK, The BFG proved as much.
PhoncipleBone
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Marvel to cast Alex Skaarsgard as Ka-Zar and rob WB of that.
If this ends up accurate, movie execs really need to start taking a hard look at how they are making summer movies. Bad word of mouth has absolutely destroyed film after film this summer and sabotaged the legs of even the movies that manged to have decent openings. Let your creators make good movies and people will come on word of mouth. Marketing and hype for known brands isn't working anymore, people are paying attention to reviews and word of mouth, not just going hey I know this property lets see the movie.
Disney is making good movies first and they are making money hand over fist.
Why are people down on Fantasic Beast? It's got the Potterverse connection plus JK Rowling's herself. And David Yates is historically critically acclaimed with Potter stuff. And I personally think it looks solid.
And I personally think we might see a change with DC Films. Creating it and making Johns the president of DC entertainment would be all for nothing. Except if they plan on making him the fall guy.
And I personally think we might see a change with DC Films. Creating it and making Johns the president of DC entertainment would be all for nothing. Except if they plan on making him the fall guy.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
I have no problem with that.
Freeza Under The Shower
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That was a thing? Well okay then. Withdrawn.
But still, at a quick glance on the BO, Del Toro's movies seem to underperform to the level of quality they deliver. Maybe I'm biased towards that 'Burton style' though, since Burton's movies are hit & miss too.
I very strongly disagree (the writing was superb), but I can understand a sense of fatigue about the movies.
Hopefully Del Toro gets to direct one. I remember him talking about doing a grounded take of Tarzan years ago.
Wait...I just realized most if not all Del Toro dream projects that were canned is owned by WB --- Mouth Of Madness, Justice League Dark and gritty Tarzan.
MHWilliams
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$800 million is too high for breakeven. Easy rule of thumb is to double the production budget. $175 million budget = $350 million. Assuming vague marketing numbers... maybe $500 million?
Jesus. That is not good. I figured the drop wouldn't happen until next week.
Plasticine
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Alex in a loin cloth fighting dinosaurs and shit? Marvel would break a billion at the box office.
The Tarzan he was working on is The Legend of Tarzan WB released. He was just one of a slew of directors who were attached to it during its long development life.
BronsonLee
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Ayer fixes it when Del Toro gets bored and/or can't get it to the table
Figures. WB must be salty from him dropping out of directing Hobbit.
For me it was the Olympics. I probably would have seen SS again today if they weren't on all day.
CrichtonKicks
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Insider on the box office theory forums. Gets numbers before the trades.
Escape Goat
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Its not just fatigue with me. Its the cinematic equivalent of cotton candy. I never finish one of these films and feel Im taking anything away with me. Trek needs to find its soul again and they wont do that in the hands of Paramount movie execs.
BronsonLee
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T-Mobile inflation strikes!
You know what... GOOD. Warner needs to suffer.Suicide Squad super-decline confirmed:
I thought it was the worst movie I've seen so far this year, and the only one I didn't on some level enjoy (Gods of Egypt was terrible on any objective level, but it was at least enjoyably dumb and stilted), hence, I am Homer in that gif.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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Rth also updated to 36-37.Suicide Squad super-decline confirmed:
If it continues to be very frontloaded, it's possible its dailies will start tracking below Guardians of the Galaxy as soon as Sunday. And that's despite an opening day 75% larger.
Primethius
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Holy... What a drop!
They should go the Deadpool route and make cheaper films and fleece the suckers for all they're worth.
PhoncipleBone
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If they went the Deadpool route we would at least get a good movie. WB/DC can't even manage that.
BronsonLee
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Y'all really want your pound of flesh from this movie, huh
You can't spell schadenfreude without D C C(omics).
Obliterator
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Well holy crap that drop is enormous.
PhoncipleBone
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We have to go bigger. BvS couldn't even fail properly, maybe Suicide Squad can.
They'll just shout very, very loudly about taking the August BO record. Even the low, low end estimate of $120M is well past GotG's previous record, so there's that. They did a similar thing for BvS's record breaking opener despite everyone knowing that it should have made more (if it was good).
The real tricky PR would be if it completely tanks next weekend. Maybe Ang Lee Hulk can finally shed that weight off its shoulders...
You're just salty because I was right
PhoncipleBone
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No, I want two.
BronsonLee
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Sibersk Esto
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Ayer when he gets the news
Even so, I can't see this one failing to making a tidy profit.
Pop-O-Matic
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Ayer when he gets the news
Even so, I can't see this one failing to making a tidy profit.
Break-even point is apparently around $750M-$850M. It's fucked.
broncobuster
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Kind of impossible, unless they wasted 500 millions in marketing.
Suicide Squad super-decline confirmed:
And people still thinking it will become a great success well no..hearing people talking about it and worth to mouth spreading further how bad it really is, i am not surprised.
Nah, that number is a crock. That might even be the same number WB uses in their accounting but it's still bull. Technically speaking, Deathly Hallows failed to make a profit with over $900M in revenue but we all know that's a bunch of bull.
Obliterator
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November?
MHWilliams
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Honestly, it's like Ghostbusters to me. Solid cast that I would like to see later in a better sequel.
It wasn't great, but I think it'll cross into profitability, unless the legs continue to be as bad as that Saturday drop.
WB stakeholders meeting I assume. He's so out.
Think he means Fantastical Beasts.
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