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harSon

Banned
You can't even compare their speeds, it takes some pretty fucking ridiculous speed to fight offensively and defensively with your hands at your sides. Floyd is on a different level, he's not as flashy and probably doesn't have as much power as Manny but his conditioning and technicality is better then anyone in the business.
 

TheCardPlayer

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harSon said:
You can't even compare their speeds, it takes some pretty fucking ridiculous speed to fight offensively and defensively with your hands at your sides. Floyd is on a different level, he's not as flashy and probably doesn't have as much power as Manny but his conditioning and technicality is better then anyone in the business.
No. Floyd's good but he's a ducker. He never fought anybody else in their prime after his 3 big wins. He'll never be pound for pound in my eyes and alot of people's too. If he beats Manny then he's good to go. But he'll never fight him. Because he's a cherry picker.
 

Vestal

Junior Member
harSon said:
You can't even compare their speeds, it takes some pretty fucking ridiculous speed to fight offensive and defensively with your hands at your sides. Floyd is on a different level, he's not as flashy and probably doesn't have as much power as Manny but his conditioning and technicality is better then anyone in the business.

Yeah he is better at ducking the competition.. For example ducking Cotto, Margarito and Mosely and choosing to fight Hatton of all people at 147 a weight in which hatton LOOKED HORRIBLE against Collazo.

Pacquiao vs Mayweather would be a great fight.. Mayweather is faster and has the best defense in the business but I dont think he could take Paquiaos punch.
 

harSon

Banned
Talk all you want, I'll be back when the deed is done with a plate full of crow. Manny's going to wish he cherry picked in the near future :lol
 

TheCardPlayer

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harSon said:
Talk all you want, I'll be back when the deed is done with a plate full of crow. Manny's going to wish he cherry picked in the near future :lol
What's your problem man. You talk shit about Calzaghe and you put Mayweather of all people on a pedestal. What's wrong with that picture?
 

Marvie_3

Banned
TheCardPlayer said:
It was glorious. Pacquiao fought like he was forged out of awesome, gold and win. Hatton literally dropped like he was hit by Optimus Prime.
So you're saying it was like JCVD taking out the Saudi guy in Bloodsport....only shorter. :lol
 

TheCardPlayer

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Marvie_3 said:
So you're saying it was like JCVD taking out the Saudi guy in Bloodsport....only shorter. :lol
Same kind of awesome. Only......wow. Just....fracking delicious ownage. It felt like......................You know McClane owning Hans at the end of Die Hard?...Well that...X 27893728937892.
 
As much as I like Pacman, I can't see him beating Mayweather. Floyd's speed, defense, and counter-punching should eek out a split decision.
 

Verano

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Damnnnnn! I just saw the fight over at my aunts house and came back ASAP.

Opinion:

Hatton disappointment total, but Pac, he was the man in the ring. Dude lay Hatton's foo ass out on the floor. This has to be the most quickest match this year alone for Pac. Awesome fight overall.

The problem with Hatton is that he aggressively rushes/hugs leaving himself to clean shots. No defense whatsoever. Pac man saw this to his advantage and fucked his ass up! ;)

Now, Pac man needs to defeat Shane Mosley's conceited ass once and for all or Mayweather, but I hate Mayweather cuz he always runs away and doesn't put up a good fight.
 

harSon

Banned
TheCardPlayer said:
What's your problem man. You talk shit about Calzaghe and you put Mayweather of all people on a pedestal. What's wrong with that picture?

I'll give you a rundown of the fight. Jab, dodge, clench, and counter. Manny can come with all the power he wants, it's not going to be effective against a Mayweather game plan.
 

Baby Milo

Member
heh people are getting fooled by Hatton get KTFO. Dude has never been an elite defensive fighter or an elite fighter. Not even close to the same class as Floyd and JMM.
 

Marvie_3

Banned
TheCardPlayer said:
Same kind of awesome. Only......wow. Just....fracking delicious ownage. It felt like......................You know McClane owning Hans at the end of Die Hard?...Well that...X 27893728937892.
:lol Perfect.
 

TheCardPlayer

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harSon said:
I'll give you a rundown of the fight. Jab, dodge, clench, and counter. Manny can come with all the power he wants, it's not going to be effective against a Mayweather game plan.
Gameplan...? Fighting lower weight fighters and acting like your hot shit while dodging the top dogs while everyone is watching?

Losing against Castillo and winning a decision by crooked judges? Yeah alright I get it...Mayweather KOs both Klitschkos at the same time and outspeeds Pacquiao while winning 34 chess matches at the same time. Ok.
 

harSon

Banned
Baby Milo said:
heh people are getting fooled by Hatton get KTFO. Dude has never been an elite defensive fighter or an elite fighter. Not even close to the same class as Floyd and JMM.

While I believe Mayweather in his late 20s would win, I'm pretty sure Cotto would defeat both Mayweather and Manny right now, dude is a beast and had an unfortunate encounter with a cheating iron chin.

TheCardPlayer said:
Gameplan...? Fighting lower weight fighters and acting like your hot shit while dodging the top dogs while everyone is watching?

Losing against Castillo and winning a decision by crooked judges? Yeah alright I get it...Mayweather KOs both Klitschkos at the same time and outspeeds Pacquiao while winning 34 chess matches at the same time. Ok.

At least my arguments are within reason, yours seems to be the result of an undeniable hatred for Mayweather's character. I like Manny and hope he does well but he will be destroyed by the Cherry Picker.
 

Baby Milo

Member
harSon said:
While I believe Mayweather in his late 20s would win, I'm pretty sure Cotto would defeat both Mayweather and Manny right now, dude is a beast and had an unfortunate encounter with a cheating iron chin.
I disagree with that
 

TheCardPlayer

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harSon said:
At least my arguments are within reason, yours seems to be the result of an undeniable hatred for Mayweather's character.

I guess I don't see the within reason part. Pacquiao is faster, stronger and has more heart than Mayweather ever will. It's not that Mayweather sucks. It's that he never had the balls to be the boxer he should have been. Pacquaio rapes him in the ring while singing some Celine Dion or some shit.

Prime Whitaker also does the same.
 

Kingpen

Member
mayweather is a counter punch specialist and he looks to win fights by out pointing fighters. Manny will force the issue by coming forward with barrages but even I don't know who would win that fight.

It is one I would gladly pay for though...
 

Vestal

Junior Member
Baby Milo said:
I disagree with that

Both fights would be great to watch, aslong as Cotto hasn't suffered any long term effects from the Antonio "Brickboy" Margarito fight.

I would favor Cotto over FMJ.. Not so sure against Manny.
 

harSon

Banned
If I was to put a ranking on the weight class right now, it'd be 1) Cotto 2) Mayweather 3) Pacquiao 4) Mosley. Mosley looked damn good against Margarito but I'm not completely convinced of his revival, maybe Nazim Richardson is just that great of a trainer?

TheCardPlayer said:
I guess I don't see the within reason part. Pacquiao is faster, stronger and has more heart than Mayweather ever will. It's not that Mayweather sucks. It's that he never had the balls to be the boxer he should have been. Pacquaio rapes him in the ring while singing some Celine Dion or some shit.

Prime Whitaker also does the same.

I stopped reading after you said Pacquiao was faster then Mayweather :lol I know you hate the guy but come on.
 

rxdco07

Member
Damn i love Pacquiao, being filipino and all, this was bad ass KO. I like Ricky Hatton though, hopefully he goes on to recover, but Pacquiao was just the better man
 

Baby Milo

Member
TheCardPlayer said:
Pacquaio rapes him in the ring while singing some Celine Dion or some shit.
knocking out Floyd, or even the smaller Marquez, that's another story. Them dudes don't get knocked out. They just don't.Saying he's gonna beat Mayweather off of this performance is a knee-jerk reaction.
 

TheCardPlayer

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There's always a first time. So they say. Pacquaio KO0. That's right. He ko's him so hard, time is going to rewind and Pacquiao will probably become Genghis Khan or some shit like that.

EDIT. Vodka, irish cream, rhum and whisky may be influencing my opinion right now. Let's see what I say tomorrow. :lol
 

Relix

he's Virgin Tight™
TheCardPlayer said:
On that topic...Mayweather beats Cotto silly. Seriously.

Well he's back. Maybe we will get that fight? I am sure Cotto will beat Cottley. Then Mosley. Or in fact... skip Mosley and go straight to Mayweather. Then get to Mosley.
 
To say that Pac won't have a chance in a fight with Floyd is premature.You look at the fight with De La hoya,Floyd got a really hard fight and won a split decision.

Pac won after the 8th round and dominated the fight.

Would be a great fight if it happens.
 

TheCardPlayer

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Relix said:
Well he's back. Maybe we will get that fight? I am sure Cotto will beat Cottley. Then Mosley. Or in fact... skip Mosley and go straight to Mayweather. Then get to Mosley.

Well...Clottey is a pretty good fighter so we'll see how Cotto handles him. I'm not sure he wins so easily...Damn you Margarito for being a cheating bitch and fucking up my opinion of Cotto's resistance to pressure. :lol
 

Quazar

Member
Vestal said:
Both fights would be great to watch, aslong as Cotto hasn't suffered any long term effects from the Antonio "Brickboy" Margarito fight.

I would favor Cotto over FMJ..

Why don't you post more? I've been trying to explain this to my brother.

Anyways, I'm now finally convinced on Manny. It's not that I haven't seen what Manny could do, it's just that his ability at this weight has put together many questions for me.

But I'm now fully convinced in Manny, but still doubt him beating Mayweather.(though he's a worthy contender) If Mayweather does beat Manny, it would seal his legacy as the best p4p fighter of my generation. But first up JMM. Great fight btw.

DarienA did you go to fight tonight?
 
Pac isn't anywhere as fast as Mayweather. As a matter of fact the only advantage Pac has is power. I think it would be a excellent fight, but Mayweather takes it via decision.
 

Error

Jealous of the Glory that is Johnny Depp
I'm in awe, such a vicious KO.

I don't know who can win between Mayweather/Pacman. My money is on the Pacman, though.
 

SSGMUN10000

Connoisseur Of Tedium
Just got back from watching the fight at my bros house. That was such a devastating KO. I was concerned a bit for Ricky. He was out of it for a good while. I know there was much talk about how competitive this fight was going to be but Hatton was taylor made for Manny. Comes forward without too much defense. Seems like Roach is making all the right calls. I would love to see a 3rd match between Marquez and Pac.
 

Quazar

Member
TheDrowningMan said:
Pacquiao might be too threatening for Mayweather to consider. He's a great fighter, but he's always picked his fights VERY carefully. Pacquiao has speed and power. If Mayweather has slowed even a fraction, if Pacquiao catches him with one big, clean shot I'd fancy the fight to be over. Pacquiao would be five times as dangerous as anyone else he's faced.

Oh btw this post is BULLSHIT.
 
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