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Brandon Sanderson - The Cosmere |OT| there's always another secret...
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H.Cornerstone
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Sadly Warbreaker 2 won't come until 2019 I believe.
Awesome fan art
https://twitter.com/dwaynewingert/status/758058648660762624
Impossible to be too long. WoK and WoR were both too short, haha. I think I finished WoR in 5 days, which is very very fast for me.
Wowfunhappy
Member
Read the reddit update. Apparently if it's too long, it becomes cost prohibitive to print in a single volume, and it's very important to Sanderson that the Stormlight books aren't split except in markets where it's absolutely unavoidable.
BrianRoyale
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OK so I just finished the Stromlight books. The end of Words or Radiance blew my mind if I read that right.
I know it's all apart of the Cosmere, but wow I'm really excited to see where it all goes.
Loved the books, Kal was kind of annoying throughout it but it did pay off and I can understand that he needed to go through that process, lots of baggage with him to unload. Book 3 can't come quick enough.
So Szeth is back to life and he was given Nightblood? Yowza I'm glad i read Warbreaker first otherwise it would have just been a cool moment, not a fucking "Hell Yeah!" one.
Loved the books, Kal was kind of annoying throughout it but it did pay off and I can understand that he needed to go through that process, lots of baggage with him to unload. Book 3 can't come quick enough.
BrianRoyale
Member
Yep, you read it right
You've officially made it impossible for me to stand up from my desk at work, unless i want an HR incident.
Wait he's writing a second Warbreaker? I feel like it is not that we'll liked as his other oops but it might be my favorite novel of his.Sadly Warbreaker 2 won't come until 2019 I believe.
Awesome fan art
https://twitter.com/dwaynewingert/status/758058648660762624
Yep, the sequel, tentatively titled Nightblood, is planned but he has so much in the works it's honestly best not to think about it much. It's years off.
Hurry up please.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Okay, so, I got through Warbreaker and Secret Histories. Warbreaker was excellent; Lightsong is some of the best writing Sanderson's done yet. Overall, I'd rank it below Stormlight and Wax & Wayne, but above Mistborn and Secret Histories. Secret Histories, btw, is kiiiiiind of a mixed bag for me. I never really liked Kelsier all that much; Sanderson never really handled the conflicted nature of the character all that well, I felt. So an entire novella only focusing on him is sorta not my speed. I did really like the worldbuilding stuff it exposed, though, so it's got that going for it.
Elantris is pretty slow going for me so far, but I'm just a couple dozen pages in. Will try to power through, I guess.
Ah man, I'm really looking forward to that. I might do an early reread of the first two, I just realized that I missed some important stuff.
I loved that moment. Excellent twist, makes things ever so slightly bizarre.
I just found out that
was in Words of Radiance... I neeeeeeds that sequel.
Elantris is pretty slow going for me so far, but I'm just a couple dozen pages in. Will try to power through, I guess.
Ah man, I'm really looking forward to that. I might do an early reread of the first two, I just realized that I missed some important stuff.
I loved that moment. Excellent twist, makes things ever so slightly bizarre.
I just found out that
Vasher
Poodlestrike
Banned
I think I got it? Didn't really consider that a spoiler tho, more of a hint. Lets you know there's an easter egg to look for. But w/e
But while
Nightblood
Vasher
Zahel
Demoux
edit: What exactly is the agreed upon spoiler policy re: cross-series stuff? The plot relevance is a little shaky since so much of it is out of focus. Like, Hoid does stuff that alters the plot in Stormlight, but none of the stuff that he does is, strictly speaking, related to his worldhopping tendencies. So it's sort of in this awkward position where it's a spoiler for SOMETHING, but we have no idea what yet.
I think I got it? Didn't really consider that a spoiler tho, more of a hint. Lets you know there's an easter egg to look for. But w/e
But whilebeing present was super cool, finding out thatNightbloodwasVasherblew my miiiind, almost as much as finding out thatZahelwas one of the visitors to the Purelake. There's so much more Cosmere stuff spread throughout than I thought...Demoux
edit: What exactly is the agreed upon spoiler policy re: cross-series stuff? The plot relevance is a little shaky since so much of it is out of focus. Like, Hoid does stuff that alters the plot in Stormlight, but none of the stuff that he does is, strictly speaking, related to his worldhopping tendencies. So it's sort of in this awkward position where it's a spoiler for SOMETHING, but we have no idea what yet.
Remind me, how did we found out that
Demoux
Brandon confirmed the fans' guess based on some very subtle hints. Very subtle. I didn't pick up on either
Demoux
Galladon
Elantris
Poodlestrike
Banned
Well, had one of those moments. One of those, "oh crap!" moments. One of those "how did I not know about this ?!?" moments. Somehow I missed discussion of it completely.
I wasn't paying a lot of attention to the release of the Elantris 10th Anniversary Edition. It's not his best work, I'd read it years ago and wasn't really in the mood to read it again yet. I started rereading it last week.
And today I discovered
I feel pretty fortunate to have happened upon that, not knowing it was there, approximately 10 months after it was released.
I wasn't paying a lot of attention to the release of the Elantris 10th Anniversary Edition. It's not his best work, I'd read it years ago and wasn't really in the mood to read it again yet. I started rereading it last week.
And today I discovered
the extra scene added waaaaay at the end, past the Ars Arcanum, past the deleted scenes.
Imp the Dimp
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Quit Malazan during book 2 because it was awfully dull and jumped into Warbreaker. It's awesome and sooo much more fun to read. I felt Erikson couldn't write interesting, exciting stuff to save his life.
cursedDice
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I finished Warbreaker a week ago. Sanderson is a genius for making this available for free.
It led me into Mistborn, which I will be finishing today...and I'm hooked.
Can anyone recommend a follow-up to the Mistborn Trilogy? I am thinking Elantris or starting Stormlight...although there is a 4th Mistborn book also.
This tread got me to start reading Warbreaker...so cheers to all of the posters who left glowing recommendations.
It led me into Mistborn, which I will be finishing today...and I'm hooked.
Can anyone recommend a follow-up to the Mistborn Trilogy? I am thinking Elantris or starting Stormlight...although there is a 4th Mistborn book also.
This tread got me to start reading Warbreaker...so cheers to all of the posters who left glowing recommendations.
Read this http://brandonsanderson.com/books/elantris/the-emperors-soul/
Malazan has some amazing stuff in it, but it's certainly much harder to get into and stick with than Sanderson.
Imp the Dimp
Member
I can definitely confirm the latter. I didn't even find the books overly challenging, just not interesting.
Is it still free somewhere? Assuming an eBook, but I'd love to have it on my Kindle as well.
http://brandonsanderson.com/library/
First link
EDIT wait, that's the online version. Unsure if there's a downloadable version... I thought there was. But it has been years since i checked.
I always recommend going with publication order. Each series can stand on its own but for anyone interested in the cosmeric connections publication order is best.
Plus you'll get Elantris out of the way early (first) and can move on to the really great stuff without it hanging over your head.
Warbreaker versions downloads and rights.
CornBurrito
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Malazan is weird. Why does everyone in that series break into philosophical soliloquy?
Ah. That looks familiar. In the "I saw that page before the site redesign years ago"-way.
Imp the Dimp
Member
I bought Warbreaker off of Amazon because I wanted it on my Kindle without fumbling around lol
Yeah things have been jumbled up quite a bit over the years. But at least it does look like a geocities page circa 1999 anymore!
CornBurrito
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I forget which book, but there's some Sanderson short story about mankind being put into individual personalized digital worlds. The dude can be downright awful at writing strong female characters. Like... basically only barely above the characters outright stating "I'm a woman, but I'm strong!" in their introduction.
I disagree with this. Heavily. I don't see how anyone who has read his works can say that.
Imp the Dimp
Member
Disagree with that as well. Although I would criticize that his female protagonists seem kinda samey. I really like all of them though. Shallan was fantastic for instance. Vin turned a little uninteresting in books two and three. I'm enjoying the female protagonist in Warbreaker too so far.
Warbreaker's two female protagonists are awesome. I think they are his best.
Imp the Dimp
Member
Stop hyping it bruh, it's already good
He does variations on the "came from nothing to be powerful" female protagonists, but the variations are strong enough that characters like Shallan and Vin are similar but different enough that they are their own thing.
CornBurrito
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You both read what you wanted to instead of what I said.
I said he CAN be awful at writing them. He's written good ones. He's written downright awful ones. Read that short story I talked about and tell me she's well written.'
edit: Perfect State is the name of it. Sophie is legit one of the worst attempts at a strong female character I've ever read. And this is disappointing considering the characters in say... Stormlight Archive, or Mistborn.
TIL. I had no idea about the deleted scenes or the spoiler. Just read both. Thanks!
I have read that and surprise surprise it's part of her character and the reality she was assigned. It makes sense in the context. That doesn't make her a bad character or poorly written. Also
she's a robot
Maybe you should read what you wrote again. If you have a complaint against a character then make a complaint against that character. No one gets everything right 100% of the time. But the way you phrased it makes it sound like an ongoing problem you have with Sanderson and strong female characters.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Both of them have issues, IMO. Shallan's characterization as it actually exists is pretty great; spunky, smart, scared sometimes but powers through it. But then there's this other element to her, where she's supposedly timid? But it doesn't actually manifest at ALL. This is sort of an issue of his in general, honestly, where he does a perfectly good job showing and then feels the need to double back and tell, but it's especially jarring here because it's an Informed Attribute.
Vin, though, I don't think I'd agree. She's a female character, yes, who is strong, yes, but her only meaningful personal connection is to the men in her life, which isn't great. Especially in the cases of Kelsier and Elend, the latter of whom features in one of the clunkier fantasy romances I've read, and
when he dies
welp, nothing left to live for!
Sanderson I'd say is an average writer of female characters. He tries (and that shouldn't be discounted because not everybody does), but he's pretty clumsy a lot of the time. I'd agree that the sisters in Warbreaker are probably his strongest effort.
CornBurrito
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The way I phrased it was fine actually,
CornBurrito
Member
I felt that the female lead in Sixth of the Dusk felt a bit too much like Shallan, but I liked her enough.
And I also liked the lead in Shadows for Silence, who IIRC was an elderly mother type.
And I also liked the lead in Shadows for Silence, who IIRC was an elderly mother type.
Wowfunhappy
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I think that just a general weakness of Sanderson is that he tends to "reuse" characters, or at least write characters that are similar to each other, both male and female.
...I had a long list of examples in my head but now it's really late and I'm too tired to think of them. But it's something I've noticed a bunch of times, and with regards to both genders.
He reuses plots too. Both Elantris and Way of Kings have
. And both Shadows of Self and Steelheart have
. The latter of these actually really bugged me. :/
...I had a long list of examples in my head but now it's really late and I'm too tired to think of them. But it's something I've noticed a bunch of times, and with regards to both genders.
He reuses plots too. Both Elantris and Way of Kings have
One hero joins group of people who have lost all hope, and helps his peers regain purpose and rebuild a sort of community.
girl who protagonist fell in love with dies, then suddenly reappears back from the dead, except it turns out she was actually a Kondra/Epic all along!
I thought Sixth of the Dusk was a male. Could be misremembering. Been awhile since I've read it.
I think he's referring to the companion that Sixth guides back to the beach.
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