Hey I don't mind using yours - that way I can guarantee a BB10 Grahdens
Hopefully my Zelnite's been useful for you, too. With the Legwand and an Omni Gizmo he's stupidly strong. If there's a Grahdens leader he hits 10k HP, which is kinda crazy.
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Hey I don't mind using yours - that way I can guarantee a BB10 Grahdens
Hopefully my Zelnite's been useful for you, too. With the Legwand and an Omni Gizmo he's stupidly strong. If there's a Grahdens leader he hits 10k HP, which is kinda crazy.
zerokoolpsx
Member
Broke under 5k rank on FH. Getting to under 3k isn't that far off now.
Noticed people are climbing as much as last FH or is it just me?
Well Thunder Vortex is out this Friday. I'm ready.
Noticed people are climbing as much as last FH or is it just me?
Well Thunder Vortex is out this Friday. I'm ready.
In the end I decided against from pulling in this event. There's definitely a hole in my roster for a bc gen support unit, but I think there's too many units in this event.
I could also use a mitigation unit and an unit that can bestow a water element to my units, like Eve or Lucca, but those are slightly minor concerns. Oh well
I could also use a mitigation unit and an unit that can bestow a water element to my units, like Eve or Lucca, but those are slightly minor concerns. Oh well
Jesus. Been pretty consistent yet I'm like 18k. Quite easy to fuck up a run if you mess up a turn during stage 1.
I seem to screw up like 1/6 of my runs. And not everyone has maxwell lead up so sometimes I have to use Elza which scores lower.
Man those 6* free units are pretty OK.
Mifune is a tissue paper nuke lol. God damn.
zerokoolpsx
Member
I got screwed over turn 1 a couple of times myself. Had to salvage it and get 1.5 mil if I'm lucky.
Man Lario is gonna be a beast in the next FH! His attack stat isn't that high though.
Zephu is a poor man's Nalmika, Luna isn't bad with solid stats all across the board. Yeah, Mifune is a glass cannon with a nuke on the end rofl.
These units are actually pretty good. Zegar stats, LS and BB/SBB are better than I expected. Kinda regret fusing him away now.
Need to farm Lario, then whoever I want to collect next.
broz0rs
Member
I was hoping they'd limit seven stars to just the starters for a while, but seeing that update for Mifune and friends there's no way. They completely outclass a lot of rare summons now.
Birgitte2004
Member
Maybe.
Those units make sense in JP, but if released as-is in Global they will be better than they are in JP, so we'll see.
For example, Lario isn't even particularly good in JP, but in Global he'd be one of the best units, because in JP units like Maxwell and Douglas have 2x crystal drop multipliers. When Maxwell can drop 66 crystals and Douglas 60, Lario dropping 40 isn't that big of a deal.
In Global BC drops have been nerfed and now Lario is way better, and I don't think they can put in a BC drop modifier < 1.
I guess we'll see how global handles these units, but don't be surprised if they are nerfed.
The rumor is that the Earth Shield is going to be like Cyclaw had - it adds a small layer of HPs as Earth Type that depletes before your HP depletes that is strong against Lightning. Who knows, though.
The people on Reddit are going nuts for this unit, and I think for good reason. With dual leaders, you get permanent +60% HP and 30% mitigation, which pretty much equals +90% effective health. Coupled with a damage mitigator this becomes ridiculously strong. It's stats aren't crazy, but the LS is super strong (and we still don't know what the Earth Shield is for sure).
issue is there really isn't any content where a defense LS is even required. I guess if you haven't maxwelled... not sure if I'd rather use grah though.
I figure it could help in GCC, Trial 4, etc. Obviously there is no other very hard content, but hey.
Still GCC level 3 can be OTKO with crit teams, afaik, so... That's the problem and it's what people are whining about - there's SO much more content in the Japanese version, and Alim are really good at rewarding players and such, while Gumi are being greedy, releasing japanese vortex units in the gacha (Lin/Ren for example were vortex in Japan) and releasing new unique units in the gacha (this new dude is global exclusive, like Ulthor) and it's just weird.
Right now in Japan they've announced 7 Star starters, and to celebrate *EVERYTHING* is 1/2 stamina, all evolution dungeons are up, etc. People regularly pull Sphere Frogs from honor summons, they've had burst frog dungeons and raid for a while... Gumi is weird in that there's a very, VERY good system in Japan but they handle it very differently in Global, so who knows.
I have a friend who absolutely *loved* the game, but he's tired of it now because there's zero content anymore. He just quit playing, and he was spending money quite often, but now he's just super tired of it since he has literally nothing to do but grind to increase his level. These are players you want to keep, because they're a constant influx of money, but Gumi is taking SO long to bring content to Global and they keep doing cash grabs that just piss off the serious players that it's going down slowly.
funny enough I do praise the global team for these units because they are actually different in terms of SBB abilities. The batches have been pretty iterative for quite a while.
There is no content to put my team against. There are no units I need. I'm just logging on daily and just evolving some electric dudes just because... but that interest will run out.
They are very different units, true, but their evolution paths are completely stupid and really bad cash grabs - must RS, hopefully you'll get it before you hit 10 summons, and then OOPS it's Oracle, then you have to have an evolved version of the vortex drop to evolve it, which requires Bulbs. Those dungeons *never* come back, so if you're unlucky and pull it after the dungeon's gone, well, say goodbye to 6* (people are still pulling Ulthor right now, which is absolutely RIDICULOUS as there's no way the Cyclaw dungeon will ever return). There's so many bad sides to this that while yes I agree that they have very different and unique LS and BBs they're still shit
IIRC that's the Black Lance that was renamed. It isn't a new sphere.
I just hate the way Gumi releases these exclusive units now. Ever since Serin, Lico, and the other maidens, Gumi can't just put the summon unit up for people to summon or put out a simple vortex where you can earn the unit. There's always some annoying catch in order to get people to waste gems. And the units are never worth the trouble. I "can't wait" to see what hurdles Gumi throws at us in order for us to evolve Serin and friends to 6 star. Maybe a new evo item that never drops? Or a Vortex arena where the evo item is the top prize for rank 1-100?
I also agree with the content and I hope Gumi releases Raid Battle soon. It's disappointing as a Global only player to hear all these changes Gumi is making vs just releasing the content as is from Japan, because none of the changes sound good and they all sound like ways to hold the game back in order to make more money.
I also agree with the content and I hope Gumi releases Raid Battle soon. It's disappointing as a Global only player to hear all these changes Gumi is making vs just releasing the content as is from Japan, because none of the changes sound good and they all sound like ways to hold the game back in order to make more money.
did a few pulls from FH gems.
engineer dude
dean
kikuri
Yeah no thanks.
Mitigator really is all you need for defense. Offense really is the best defense for most content due to how easy RNG can f you up. Win faster is usually better.
Ultor actually has a usage for certain content where he can fully utilize angel idols.
Not entirely sure about this water dude.
Like i've never used exvhel LS for anything, and this guy is just a better version of that.
Never needed to.
engineer dude
dean
kikuri
Yeah no thanks.
Mitigator really is all you need for defense. Offense really is the best defense for most content due to how easy RNG can f you up. Win faster is usually better.
Ultor actually has a usage for certain content where he can fully utilize angel idols.
Not entirely sure about this water dude.
Like i've never used exvhel LS for anything, and this guy is just a better version of that.
Never needed to.
I pulled a Breaker one on my 4th pull, so that's it for me, thankfully.
Also got a 2nd Narza and a Douglas, so hey, at least it wasn't complete shit.
Also apparently his mitigation just got nerfed to 10% instead of 15%, so... I spent gems for this? Ugh.
Well, it seems he was custom-made for the new vortex dungeon. That boss deals out a *ton* of damage, even with mitigation up. Level 3 is annoying, and you need good burst because he shields up a few times at the end. With 2 Rowgens that kept sparking it killed his shield in one turn, but then he'd just put it back up right after.
Also got a 2nd Narza and a Douglas, so hey, at least it wasn't complete shit.
Also apparently his mitigation just got nerfed to 10% instead of 15%, so... I spent gems for this? Ugh.
Well, it seems he was custom-made for the new vortex dungeon. That boss deals out a *ton* of damage, even with mitigation up. Level 3 is annoying, and you need good burst because he shields up a few times at the end. With 2 Rowgens that kept sparking it killed his shield in one turn, but then he'd just put it back up right after.
They are very different units, true, but their evolution paths are completely stupid and really bad cash grabs - must RS, hopefully you'll get it before you hit 10 summons, and then OOPS it's Oracle, then you have to have an evolved version of the vortex drop to evolve it, which requires Bulbs. Those dungeons *never* come back, so if you're unlucky and pull it after the dungeon's gone, well, say goodbye to 6* (people are still pulling Ulthor right now, which is absolutely RIDICULOUS as there's no way the Cyclaw dungeon will ever return). There's so many bad sides to this that while yes I agree that they have very different and unique LS and BBs they're still shit
It hasn't even been a month since the Cyclaw dungeon was out bro. You have no way of knowing these dungeons won't come around again. The Deemo dungeon came around again in Japan, though it took like a year or something around there i hear.
hear he isn't crit resistant and can be dual maxwelled. Haven't given it a shot yet because i'm not that interested in the unit.
But might as well keep that fusion material around just incase i randomly pull him down the road.
broz0rs
Member
yep, I can confirm this, 4 out of 5 runs he was OTK. but if the crits don't pop up.. uh oh
zerokoolpsx
Member
Only need Vargas or Eze out of the four starters. Their BB/SBB is identical, decisions, decisions.
SparksterMeta0
Member
new global exclusive looks rad.
mother of god for tanking. Not sure what earth shield does though, protect against thunder attacks? Seems kind of meh.
where the fuck is my shida batch :O
I already regret doing the BB support summon before learning about this event. I didn't know this was related to Ultor's event a week or two ago.
Here's what I got:
Luther (Guardian)
Luther (Breaker)
Spirit Rider Lucca (Lord)
Havoc Girl Luly (Lord)
Loch Ness (Lord; dupe)
Thoughts?
I'd go with Breaker Luther out of the two. Luther is great for BB Spam teams and his single target BB with paralyze is useful in a lot of boss fights. Lucca is also a great unit due to Attack Up and her two element buffs.
Luly is a decent Earth Unit, but very situational. Prior to having Maxwell and elements for a critical squad, I was using her leader skill in Thunder Vortexes to provide extra protection + extra damage for my mono Earth squad. I would level up other units before her, but she can be useful when you need a mono squad/can't run another team.
That's the thing, and that's if Gumi ever decides to reopen those dungeons. I have a funny feeling the Maidens aren't coming back either. But even if it takes a year for them to come back, do you want to have a useless Ulthor (or Tridon or whatever) for a whole year? It's kinda ridiculous
Don't get me wrong, I love the game, really, I do. I just don't like how Gumi is handling it versus how Alim is handling it.
Yeah he's not crit resistant. I still have to get my Maxwell and I don't have a crit squad built up so I can't quite OTKO him but he does hit very hard if you can't do that. Considering my only leveled healer is Ulkina, I'll have to sphere her accordingly so that she doesn't get focused like she always has (his AI is to focus on the lowest HP unit, so he does hit big AoE attack then focuses on her since she's the only fire unit in the team).
Pulled for Tridon today.
6 summons:
Ophelia (O) new
Douglas (B) new, first Earth Spark buffer I've got
Ulkina (A) dupe, already have a Breaker max level with SBB unlocked and sphere frogged...
Azael (B) dupe but better type
Phee (B) 5th dupe...
5* Tridon (L)!!! yessss!!! One less water and miracle bulb I have to farm.
6 summons:
Ophelia (O) new
Douglas (B) new, first Earth Spark buffer I've got
Ulkina (A) dupe, already have a Breaker max level with SBB unlocked and sphere frogged...
Azael (B) dupe but better type
Phee (B) 5th dupe...
5* Tridon (L)!!! yessss!!! One less water and miracle bulb I have to farm.
Grats!
On Reddit people are saying double Tridon makes Maxwell a joke, you never need to guard and it's stupidly easy. I'll have to make sure I level/evolve mine, but in 5 runs of level 3 I didn't get a single of the mat, so I'll have to grind that in the coming days.
man maxwell looks like a joke with tridon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi3Q8h6XLu8
it working with mitigation makes tanking crazy easy. You don't even need to guard against endless (with mitigation).
fuck it. just realize i had like $9 of amazon coins, and just needed like $7 more of gems to get the guarantee tridon lol.
I'm too weak for this game.
AND YET IM STILL TOO CHEAP TO SPEND $5 FOR 80 DAYS
T____T
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi3Q8h6XLu8
it working with mitigation makes tanking crazy easy. You don't even need to guard against endless (with mitigation).
fuck it. just realize i had like $9 of amazon coins, and just needed like $7 more of gems to get the guarantee tridon lol.
I'm too weak for this game.
AND YET IM STILL TOO CHEAP TO SPEND $5 FOR 80 DAYS
T____T
broz0rs
Member
So I've been losing my shit recently trying to farm elemental bulbs for two Tridons and a Ciara. I've tried to focus target first, last, and auto-battle and the drop rates for these bulbs are horrendous, especially when you're trying to farm seven of them in a few days.
Then I found a link in another forum that explains drop rates in general, and made me feel better about how I should go about farming them. (auto-battle, enjoy a movie)
Drop Chance: Is it determined at the beginning of a fight?
From my experience, elemental bulb rates look like :
1 in five runs
3 miracles for 1 elemental bulb
Then I found a link in another forum that explains drop rates in general, and made me feel better about how I should go about farming them. (auto-battle, enjoy a movie)
Drop Chance: Is it determined at the beginning of a fight?
From my experience, elemental bulb rates look like :
1 in five runs
3 miracles for 1 elemental bulb
Thanks, hope the mat drops for you soon. Got mine on 3rd run of level 3, but Cyclaw was a bitch for me that took around a dozen runs to get. Hope it doesn't take that many for you to get Hydraloid.
brozors, that math matches up perfectly with my experience. Took me 10 runs to get 2 water bulbs. I figured the capture was determined before battle awhile ago and i just auto battle for stuff like that.
Zomg. Did two pulls just for fun, couldn't resist the lure of 4* units anymore. Got Merciless Tridon and mini Tridon (Darvan) lol.
Tridon is Oracle type but I'm not sure I care. 5* out of the door!
Darvan seems fun as well, he can even add a water element to attacks! Now I can handle all element additions.
All in all, good morning for me
Tridon is Oracle type but I'm not sure I care. 5* out of the door!
Darvan seems fun as well, he can even add a water element to attacks! Now I can handle all element additions.
All in all, good morning for me
man maxwell looks like a joke with tridon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi3Q8h6XLu8
it working with mitigation makes tanking crazy easy. You don't even need to guard against endless (with mitigation).
Wow @ the purple energy bars Tridon creates. I'm assuming that's the Earth Shield.
Yeah it's pretty sure that everything bar HC/BC are predetermined. I'm also thinking that item drops are not client-side - I'm pretty sure the server sends the client a list of what can drop from whom and the drop rates and the client just generates them under the right conditions.
Drops/Waves/etc are *all* determined by the server when you access a dungeon. It's the same as it was in PAD.
That forum's funny, though. Someone mentioning that this is why the app is so large? LOL.
Birgitte2004
Member
man maxwell looks like a joke with tridon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi3Q8h6XLu8
it working with mitigation makes tanking crazy easy. You don't even need to guard against endless (with mitigation).
You don't need to guard against Endless with mitigation without Tridon either, not once did my mitigator die to endless.
To me this looks practically no different than taking two Darvanshels in.
depends on LS setup. If you own 2 mitigators and don't use them as leaders and have grah or something to buff up def, yes.
I remember trying to do maxwell with lily matah, darvanshel, and a darvanshel friend and that didn't turn out too well.
The extra hp from grah really does help the fringe cases where a crit bites you in the ass.
If you use Grahdens or another lead that increases HP/decreases damage then you're right. Although Lily Matah would have probably died even with Mitigation up if she didn't block.
Corgi is right though, a Darvanshel lead + another leader that doesn't increase HP wouldn't have been able to pull this off that easily with anything less than 7500 HP. Tridon's leader skill in addition to the purple energy bar all stacking on top of the mitigation are making a big difference in that battle. For example, when Maxwell performs Destiny or Rune on individual units, if the purple energy bar is up, they take no damage until the bar is destroyed. For a unit like Lily Matah, this is a big deal since she isn't taking double damage until the shield is destroyed.
broz0rs
Member
Whoa.. The shield has its own element and doesn't take the characteristics of the unit it is defending?!
Correct, the shield is Earth element. It also has its own Def stat which is unfortunately rather low. SBB10 the shield's Def is only ~1000. This means it doesn't work with Def boosts, doesn't synergize with Ultor as well as I would have hoped. Still, the raw health of the shield, which gets close to 3k at SBB10, is pretty damn strong.
Birgitte2004
Member
I wasn't claiming you use one of the Darvanshels as a lead. But Grah(lead) + 2x Darvanshel + Zelnite is pretty much insta-win against Maxwell, even if you let Grah die. It doesn't even much matter who the other two units are.
Both times Gumi has put out one of these units the "overpowered" claims start up immediately, and I don't get why. They are up there, but nothing about them says "better than all other units". I consider this guy a bad leader for the most part, because for 99% of the content the only leaders worth using are either huge amounts of damage, or huge amounts of crystal gen, and this guy is neither.