Breaking Bad - Season 4 - Sundays on AMC

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blame space said:
where were you for the entire build-up of the character?? it's a pretty silly realism-point to take, at this point.
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Hey, I'll be the first to admit that Gus was designed to be robotic and unrelenting. But we've seen him "cheat death" already, and it wasn't anything this ridiculous. The poison survival was the perfect way of showing that he's human and not immortal. Kill him off in the explosion and let it be the end of it.
 
Copernicus said:
Poor Hank, now he has jack shit to follow up on.

Unless Walt decides to start cooking again...lol.
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You know this will happen next season. He doesn't have much money left and someone needs to replace Gus.
 
Stet said:
Hey, I'll be the first to admit that Gus was designed to be robotic and unrelenting. But we've seen him "cheat death" already, and it wasn't anything this ridiculous. The poison survival was the perfect way of showing that he's human and not immortal. Kill him off in the explosion and let it be the end of it.
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oh so exactly what happened

minus the pretty-amazing reveal?
 
I found this interesting in the NYTimes interview:

Q.
Did the effects crew from “The Walking Dead” help out with the scene where Gus meets his demise?

A.
Indeed we did have great help from the prosthetic effects folks at “The Walking Dead,” and I want to give a shout-out to Greg Nicotero and Howard Berger, and KNB EFX, those two gentlemen and their company, because their shop did that effect. And then that was augmented by the visual effects work of a guy named Bill Pulaski and his crew, who digitally married a three-dimensional sculpture that KNB EFX created with the reality of the film scene. So you can actually see into and through Gus’s head in that final reveal. It’s a combination of great makeup and great visual effects. And it took months to do.
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Also, why the fixation on the toxicity level of the plant? It's a freaking plant that people obviously put outside in their yards where kids/dogs can accidentally eat it. My dogs have been poisoned by accident by eating a plant before, it happens. Obviously Walt did it but don't play stupid like Walt has no moral compass where he now can kill anyone even kids. No, if that was possible why would he go back home for 25,000 dollars to pay Saul's secretary to tell him where he is? Why doesn't he just 'force it' out of her? Exactly, just give it up, sheesh.
 
Copernicus said:
Poor Hank, now he has jack shit to follow up on.

Unless Walt decides to start cooking again...lol.
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It does validate every single hunch he had though, so he can thank Walt for that.
 
There was no better way to send Gus out. Prior to this episode there was no feeling of any sort of harm coming to him. This was something that needed to be wrapped up in a single episode and in a way that gave justice to how his character was presented in the show. I believe that has all been accomplished.
 
Copernicus said:
Poor Hank, now he has jack shit to follow up on.

Unless Walt decides to start cooking again...lol.
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He will figure something out plus everyone will believe what he says now since he called the Meth Lab behind the machine.
 
Sanjuro Tsubaki said:
There was no better way to send Gus out. Prior to this episode there was no feeling of any sort of harm coming to him. This was something that needed to be wrapped up in a single episode and in a way that gave justice to how his character was presented in the show. I believe that has all been accomplished.
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Nailed it.

Insane how they didn't have like "watch out intense violence" warning the commercial break before they played that scene.
 
When I get older and have kids, i'm going to tell them about the real person Walter White and how if they don't do their homework, he will plant a pipebomb under their desk chairs.
 
We weren’t sure that we would have a fifth season when we were plotting out the end of Season 4. So we wanted to make the end of Season 4 as satisfying and as complete as possible, not knowing what the future would hold. Having said that, there are a couple of big, outstanding questions still in play. But I agree with you, if the show had not gone on past the end of Season 4 – although I’m very happy to say that it indeed will – but if it weren’t to go forward, I think I could be satisfied on some level, by that episode.
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http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2...son-and-the-series/?smid=tw-nytimes&seid=auto
 
Stet said:
Other than PSY and SOC, other courses that Brock was taking in his super-accelerated learning program: ECON and COMM.
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I don't think that is Brock's schedule. That's a list of classes going on at the school with Brock's class underlined.
 
Grimm Fandango said:
Here let's lay out all the stuff that's still unsolved:

-Jesse not knowing Walt let Jane die
-Jesse not knowing Walt poisoned Brock
-Hank not knowing Walt is Heisenberg
-Mike's fate
-Ted's fate (unless I missed something, I don't think he's dead but probably a vegetable?)

What else am I missing...
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Walt did this to protect Jesse. Hell, even poisoning Brock was to protect Jesse/his family. Any way you slice it, Walter + fam would have been killed by Gus eventually, Walter decided to end the war early. He's a smart man to do it when he did.
 
PSGames said:
I don't think that is Brock's schedule. That's a list of classes going on at the school with Brock's class underlined.
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Oh, so it's some other elementary school kid who's taking those courses?
 
SpeedingUptoStop said:
Nailed it.

Insane how they didn't have like "watch out intense violence" warning the commercial break before they played that scene.
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pretty awesome, actually. gore != muscular SFX is all i can think of.
 
Guys I know this is frowned upon by GAF but I need some moral justification here. I already subscribed to Amazon's Instant Video for this season and watched through all the other episodes, however I simply can't wait any longer to watch this finale. Considering I already paid for it, would it be wrong to get the episode by illegitimate means? Sorry and mods by all means kick my ass if this doesn't belong here.

I simply can't not watch this tonight. Not the way episode 12 ended.
 
blame space said:
do you realize what you're taking issue with right now? it's what makes television great.
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It's what makes other less well-executed television shows a series of "cool moments" that don't have any consistency of tone or method.
 
TheBranca18 said:
Guys I know this is frowned upon by GAF but I need some moral justification here. I already subscribed to Amazon's Instant Video for this season and watched through all the other episodes, however I simply can't wait any longer to watch this finale. Considering I already paid for it, would it be wrong to get the episode by illegitimate means? Sorry and mods by all means kick my ass if this doesn't belong here.

I simply can't not watch this tonight. Not the way episode 12 ended.
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Sometimes you just need to break bad.
 
SpeedingUptoStop said:
Nailed it.

Insane how they didn't have like "watch out intense violence" warning the commercial break before they played that scene.
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Well, it was prime-time TV... After like 10Pm or so most "kid warning" things aren't really needed.
 
Stet said:
Oh, so it's some other elementary school kid who's taking those courses?
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One thing I've learned about this show is that they don't focus in on things like this for no reason. Why else did they show a class schedule being shredded at Saul's office?
 
The god damn super lab even has the dental record of two schmopes in it.

Walt concoted the perfect escape. I have no idea how S5 and S6 will play out if he doesn't have to make meth anymore. He owns a legitimate business, Ted is dead so no one will sniff around, Jesse still has plenty of cash...

I dunno man, if they added a little flourishes to Hank & Marie & Skyler & Walt Jr, a small scene here or there, this could've 100% passed as a season finale.
 
KevinRo said:
Also, why the fixation on the toxicity level of the plant? It's a freaking plant that people obviously put outside in their yards where kids/dogs can accidentally eat it. My dogs have been poisoned by accident by eating a plant before, it happens. Obviously Walt did it but don't play stupid like Walt has no moral compass where he now can kill anyone even kids. No, if that was possible why would he go back home for 25,000 dollars to pay Saul's secretary to tell him where he is? Why doesn't he just 'force it' out of her? Exactly, just give it up, sheesh.
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Oh he still has a moral compass, it's just a completely fucked up one.
 
SpeedingUptoStop said:
The god damn super lab even has the dental record of two schmopes in it.

Walt concoted the perfect escape. I have no idea how S5 and S6 will play out if he doesn't have to make meth anymore. He owns a legitimate business, Ted is dead so no one will sniff around, Jesse still has plenty of cash...

I dunno man, if they added a little flourishes to Hank & Marie & Skyler & Walt Jr, a small scene here or there, this could've 100% passed as a season finale.
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"I won, Amirox."

Fade to black.
 
SpeedingUptoStop said:
Walt concoted the perfect escape. I have no idea how S5 and S6 will play out if he doesn't have to make meth anymore.
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Jesse and Mr. White are the new Lil Rascals - always getting into mischief. Expect them to continue the cycle...
 
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