Breaking Bad - Season 4 - Sundays on AMC

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carfo said:
I've watched oz a few years ago. Great show. I have a choice so far between mad men (Netflix) and the wire (hbo go). Can't decide.
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The Wire. I suppose you need to be somewhat interested in cop shows, but a lot of people don't consider it the greatest show of all-time for nothing.
 
Both are similar. They both take a while for the average viewer to get into, both character pieces (though the wire has broader implications and a much more serious tone). I say go for Mad Men. The Wire might be considered the best show of all time or one of the best by many, but it aint going anywhere I'll tell you that! So catch up on Mad Men so you can watch with GAFz, then finish the wire whenever.
 
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The site received a massive overhaul. It looks like some cool stuff is going to happen. More of the table will be unlocked later. It should be pretty cool.

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carfo said:
Watched half an episode of Mad Men, can't get into it. Will try to watch it over again today, friends are telling me it's good.
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takes a little bit to get into, but it's super worth it, I also didn't enjoy it a whole lot for the first few, but then it just clicks and now it's magical
 
Finally caught up...holy...fucking...shit.

This is the greatest television I have ever seen.

The ending of "Crawl Space" was fucking the most riveting shit EVER.
 
Just some random musings and thoughts by me about this show:

- Skylar and Walt are both "cooks"... he cooks meth, she cooks books. The parallel was always obvious but it didn't really strike me so hard as in the scene where Skylar confronted Ted to write a check to the IRS. I don't think that storyline is over by a longshot...he's either dead or in a wheel chair. If he's in a wheel chair, I can see Skylar feeling obligated to pay for his care.

- Saul Goodman: s'all good man. This guy is a perpetual problem solver, lol.

- The only genuinely "good" character in this show is Walt Jr...everyone else is pretty much a complete shit bag.

- Would love to know if the bomb wired to Tio's bell was the plan from the beginning...the way the bell was featured so prominently from season 2 through now makes it obvious to me.

edit: Wow...it wasn't a series long set up:

Who was it, and how long ago was it, that came up with the idea that Tio's bell would detonate the bomb that would kill Gus?

In the writers room, it really is a group mind, and you often forget who came up with what. Though I will say in this instance I think it was me. I will take a little executive privilege here. I loved the idea of Tio dinging that bell and blowing up Gus. I think we talked about that at the very beginning of the season, and then we shelved it for a while, and then we came back to it.
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- The cartel has video of Jesse making meth south of the border...I figure that will play into the plot somehow.

- Thinking we will get more background story on Gus and who he really was...there has to be a reason he was spared poolside and why the sniper didn't kill him. He's important on some level we don't understand.

This is probably my favorite show of all time...even if there are some suspension of belief moments. Everything just ties together so well and I love their use of callbacks to previous "lore" etc. Simply amazing.
 
From Rian Johnson's Twitter:

Rian Johnson ‏ @rcjohnso
That's a wrap for me on seas. 5 ep. 4 of Breaking Bad. This show is really something special, I'm grateful and lucky to have worked on it.
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Rian also directed "The Fly".
 
I can't believe they've just finished filming episode 4 (unless 'wrapping' involves his post-production work, which I don't imagine it does?)

Considering they started in late March, I would have thought they'd have been filming 6 (or at the very least 5) this week, hm. Anyway, extremely excited for Rian to be back, and for more Breaking Bad. I can't believe the premier is probably no more than two months away!
 
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carfo said:
i just powered through this show for the first time. watched a season a day. can't wait for season 5, but now I need another show to watch
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The Wire. Starts slow, but they really establish the characters and by the end of the first season, you'll be completely hooked. It's a lot more "slow burn" than Breaking Bad. Best cop show I've ever seen though, and Idris Elba is awesome.
 
How come so many different writers and directors work on different episodes for shows? I remember looking at episodes of Lost, and the first two or three or something were written by JJ Abrams and couple other people, then he's nowhere to be seen, and a bunch of different directors do different episodes. How come shows like this don't just have one staff of writers and one director?
 
They do have a staff of writers. The writers come up with the ideas and all that, but one person ends up being chosen to pen the actual script to make it all come together. They obviously can't have the whole staff working on the script because it won't be as cohesive. As for directors, it helps lessen the workload on the people involved and also offers an opportunity to keep things fresh. Some directors might have a knack for the more dramatic stuff, and so on, so they go to who they need, or who is right for the job. You can also plan multiple episodes at once this way with different writers/directors working on different episodes.
 
carfo said:
How come so many different writers and directors work on different episodes for shows? I remember looking at episodes of Lost, and the first two or three or something were written by JJ Abrams and couple other people, then he's nowhere to be seen, and a bunch of different directors do different episodes. How come shows like this don't just have one staff of writers and one director?
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Breaking Bad's writing staff has pretty much been the same since the show started.
 
I wonder how different Walt will be next season, considering that was essentially his death scene - laying in a grave and all.

The scene directly following that has a song called "We are born when we die" and has him make the decision to poison a child in order to get what he wants. All throughout the last two episodes of season 4 he acts more like Heisenberg than Walt - he even dresses a bit different and shows his true nature to Skylar with the "I won" shit.

I really hope they keep him continuing in this direction and don't reset him back to S4 Walt.
 
dave is ok said:
I wonder how different Walt will be next season, considering that was essentially his death scene - laying in a grave and all.

The scene directly following that has a song called "We are born when we die" and has him make the decision to poison a child in order to get what he wants. All throughout the last two episodes of season 4 he acts more like Heisenberg than Walt - he even dresses a bit different and shows his true nature to Skylar with the "I won" shit.

I really hope they keep him continuing in this direction and don't reset him back to S4 Walt.
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I don't think he'll revert. At this point he's immune to any truth...he's far too gone to relinquish any control of his life. I think back to that scene where he was getting a screening to see if he was still in remission and that guy was blabbing away and Walt pretty much shut him down and said he's in control of shit.
 
I don't know why you guys always paint Walt as some bad guy, he was just protecting his family and down on his luck.

#leavewalteralone
 
CrankyJay said:
He's a total shitbag...the protecting his family thing is a convenient excuse to fulfill his ego.
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Blame it on Jesse for introducing him into such a vile line of work.

Now, that guy, totally irredeemable from any perspective.

Even skysky is responsible for corrupting poor Walter.
 
Copernicus said:
I don't know why you guys always paint Walt as some bad guy, he was just protecting his family and down on his luck.

#leavewalteralone
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I think it depends a lot on the question if there was a chance that the kid actually would have died. Though you could also say that the sole fact that he made a kid suffer through this + yet again tricked Jesse and used him for his own means, shows that he crossed the line.
 
Argh, every time I see this thread bumped I get excited that it might be something to do with season 5. Shows airing in like 2 months give me some news goddamit!
 
^Same here :lol God I can't wait. Part of me fears that it's going to be the worst season so far, and then another part of me asks the question "what if it's the best so far". Afterwhich I have an orgasm.
 
AngryMoth said:
Argh, every time I see this thread bumped I get excited that it might be something to do with season 5. Shows airing in like 2 months give me some news goddamit!
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News:
The cancellation of Bent stings a little less today for Jesse Plemons, as Friday Night Lights' mumbling, mediocre-music-playing soul has just landed a major recurring role in the fifth season of Breaking Bad. According to the exclusive report from TV Line, Plemons will play a guy named Todd—" a dependable, innocuous, working-class guy" who turns out to be something different than what he appears to be, with his big head and his dumb baby.
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http://www.avclub.com/articles/friday-night-lights-jesse-plemons-joins-the-cast-o,75262/

Not familiar with any of his work, though.
 
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