I'd say one is just as bad as the other, walt is the more irrational, emotional, while gus is much more cold, rational, detached, which makes him more effective as a business man/drug dealer. I think Gus realized just how much of a cancer walt is.Speevy said:Here's food for thought.
Knowing what we now know, was Gus more deserving of our sympathy than Walt?
Him adjusting his tie was an act of denial whilst in shock. This isn't far-fetched.KarmaCow said:Not as a cartoon character. The brothers pulling a 'cool guys don't look explosions' was one thing, but that was too much. I might have warmed up to if he didn't adjust his tie. Ugh.
Speevy said:I feel for him. He worked hard, took care of his friends, and tried to keep his word.
Those are admirable qualities in a drug dealer.
It didn't have to be the way Gus made it. Gus living by his strictly professional rule was his choice, and by that he knew what the consequences and potential dangers there would be. He was more confident because he has money, men and resources Walt does not. And even with all of that, he got one thing wrong. This, is not a bell. Cue explosion.Verdre said:Who on earth has sympathy for Gus outside of a single flashback?
I personally would not go that far. TDK was pretty damn good.Gary Whitta said:That shot really had to hold up in HD and it did. I looked at it a couple of times and IMO it was just as good if not better than Harvey Dent in TKDR.
His last scream in horror is so cathartic, forever. All of it rushes in - the connecting of the dots, the terror of death, the knowledge that he was finally got, by his worst enemies. The whole scene is just unimpeachable, how much Gus gloats about what he's going to do. His only flaw, this whole series. Excellent. The writers had to've been racking their brains most of this off season just thinking of how they were going to get The Ultimate, Gus, to believably walk into that room. Nailed it.bangladesh said:It didn't have to be the way Gus made it. Gus living by his strictly professional rule was his choice, and by that he knew what the consequences and potential dangers there would be. He was more confident because he has money, men and resources Walt does not. And even with all of that, he got one thing wrong. This, is not a bell. Cue explosion.Drug lords don't know bout dat chemistry
Agreed, Cranston and Paul should be locks. And it should just win everything else as well.ezekial45 said:The Emmys better fall from the fucking sky for this show next year.
I think Esposito has to get it from Paul, only because it's his last year, heh.Gary Whitta said:Agreed, Cranston and Paul should be locks. And it should just win everything else as well.
Gary Whitta said:Agreed, Cranston and Paul should be locks. And it should just win everything else as well.
Sanjuro Tsubaki said:Give me more Breaking Bad songs...now.
ezekial45 said:I spent some time rewatching episodes this season, and I have to say they have some great, great choices in their music. This season in particular has some best uses of music of the entire series.
Alexander - Truth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2NVUZp9rsA
Fever Ray - If I Had A Heart
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1JVxqpg-Rs
Ana Tijoux - 1977
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zOnbbUGdsg
shadyspace said:lol Walt killed 5 people in this episode.
Speevy said:But think about all the people he didn't kill. He cares.
That'sthejoke.gif.NYR said:Walter White is a dick. Absolute dick. How can any have empathy for him anymore? He's turned into the antithesis of what he was the first two seasons. As soon as they told him his cancer was in remission, he went full retard.
Yup.BenjaminBirdie said:Oh I thought that was the sickest thing ever. That shot? The reveal? Beautiful.
Especially thematically. You're first thought is "WHAT THE FUCK he is a FUCKING ROBOT" and then pan around.
All too human.
SpeedingUptoStop said:I think Esposito has to get it from Paul, only because it's his last year, heh.
Wait, lab guy, Gus, Tio, Tyrus... and who else?shadyspace said:lol Walt killed 5 people in this episode.
Other lab guy he used to get downstairs.Thoraxes said:Wait, lab guy, Gus, Tio, Tyrus... and who else?
Oh yeah I forgot. They only showed him for like a second lolSpeedingUptoStop said:Other lab guy he used to get downstairs.
His performance as Tio is so believable I'm not even sure people realize he is acting. I know I forget he's just an actor when he's doing his thing, even with that flashback showing him walking around all normal. It's completely natural, he just blends in.bangladesh said:One major and imo very overlooked thing I wanna point out about this episode is the performance given by Mark Margolis. (Hector/Tio) The expressions of Hector's final moment before he blows himself up was incredible and infinitely moving. His character wasn't exactly someone to root for but even with that considered, you still feel him recalling personal customs and memories from the past. Showing another part of him that is as pure as anyone else's before he swallows it all down and claims his vengeance.
Technically, it was Tio that did 3 of them.shadyspace said:lol Walt killed 5 people in this episode.
Amir0x said:I think Hank has to find out, but Jesse has to cause the downfall (and I hope death).
Shame he won't get an Emmy nod since he didn't have a speaking roll (even in "Hermanos" he didn't say much).bangladesh said:One major and imo very overlooked thing I wanna point out about this episode is the performance given by Mark Margolis. (Hector/Tio) The expressions of Hector's final moment before he blows himself up was incredible and infinitely moving. His character wasn't exactly someone to root for but even with that considered, you still feel him recalling personal customs and memories from the past. Showing another part of him that is as pure as anyone else's before he swallows it all down and claims his vengeance.
Puddles said:So I haven't been able to watch this episode yet.
Was it good?
Eggplant Wizard said:Now that I think about it, this actually might be a better fit for the show than what I had in mind. Hank taking down Heisenberg and Jesse being freed from this poisonous man is a fairly just ending. But Hank having an "I caught him on the wire and he doesn't fucking know it" moment and Jesse turning into someone who kills of his own free will? It puts the characters in a much darker final place. I like it.
I prefer to see it as a man growing into his potential. You come to have immense respect for Gus regardless of the fact that he is a ruthless killer. He's a pragmatic businessman who gets things done. He's smart, he's capable, he's decisive, he just happens to not obey the rules. And I gain even more respect for Walt after he topples him not only because of what Gus was, but because they did such an excellent job selling it. You actually buy that Gus would expose himself in the situation he finds himself in to deal with this problem, and it makes Walt that much more brilliant for coaxing him out.Raxus said:That'sthejoke.gif.
More like that's the point.
We are watching the destruction of a man as he becomes more and more like Tony Montana. He isn't supposed to be likeable.
Now that Gus is gone and so many others. Who outside of Walt's circle, Saul and Mike are left standing. For a slow season, it was a bloodbath.
Shows how angry he might be when he realizes how manipulated he was.Copernicus said:Jesse is definately making lieutenant after this.
Pretty crazy how Jesse still questioned where Gus had to go.
It's not even about him being uncertain, it's about him asking his now solidified father figure, Mr. White, what the "right" thing was. That's the final tragedy of Jesse's character this season, because he is most definitely still in the wrong hands.Copernicus said:Pretty crazy how Jesse still questioned where Gus had to go.