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Breaking Bad - Season 5 interim thread - the series concludes Summer 2013 on AMC
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Cornballer
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- EW.com: Creator Vince Gilligan spills on the final eight episodes *some vague spoilers*
BenjaminBirdie
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ZedIndyLil
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triplestation
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Vince Gilligan is the best film maker
If I were writing the final episodes, I would make it so
probs a good thing i'm not writing it, lol
the cartel comes back for revenge on Walt. Walt gets back in the meth business and makes himself so integral to supply that the cartel can't touch him, so they kill his family instead. The business continues to thrive. In the final shot, Walt smiles.
probs a good thing i'm not writing it, lol
One problem, Walt doesn't want to work as an employee anymore.
triplestation
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gray matter robot drones vs cartel soldiers
near
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Walt doesn't want to work at all, as implied in the last episode.
Grinchy
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I totally disagree. In the moment he might believe he's out of the game, but that's only because he doesn't know himself. We do, though. Even in flashbacks to a time in the distant past, Walt has always been Heisenberg. He will not be content with sitting idly. His ego won't allow it.
The Lamonster
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Interesting thought. The only two distant flashbacks I can remember are when he and Gretchen are breaking down the components in the human body and when he and Skyler are house shopping. Where do you see Heisenberg in those scenes?
Grinchy
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I'm going off of terrible memory, but the house shopping scene in particular seemed to show clear signs of Heisenbergitis. They couldn't afford the house or something, but Walt basically said he had to have the best no matter what. And this was after bailing out on the multi-billion dollar company he helped create because of his shitty ego and going to become a high school chem teacher.
He thinks he's King Shit, always has. Being a regular guy just doesn't suit him. He's never content with living within his means and he needs people to see him as the guy in charge. Of course this is just my interpretation.
-Pyromaniac-
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I think Walt dying is so inevitable obvious that it would be great if he lives somehow, a big fuck you to everyone lol.
Toasty Cupczech
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Yes. Yes. Yes. So excited about the new season to come out! Gives me something to watch now that Game of Thrones and The Walking Dead are now over for a while!
triplestation
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my silly ass prediction:
i think hank lets walt go because walt will have explained how he did it all for his family and now he has quit, and he couldn't have gotten all that money to secure his family's future if he hadn't taken all the risks
hank will be furious at first but will come to understand because he knows how much of a cluster fuck it would be to the entire family to find out
meanwhile, the meth industry still wants walt to cook and will not settle for a lesser product because of how thriving their business has become because of the blue sky
walt refuses to cook or hand over his techniques which pisses off wolverine, so they kidnap jesse and threaten him for the techniques
walt knowing jesse will probably give up the recipe out of fear for his life decides to go to war with arizona so he devises his biggest most brilliant, show-stopping plan which includes the m60 machine gun and possibly the cartel
i think hank lets walt go because walt will have explained how he did it all for his family and now he has quit, and he couldn't have gotten all that money to secure his family's future if he hadn't taken all the risks
hank will be furious at first but will come to understand because he knows how much of a cluster fuck it would be to the entire family to find out
meanwhile, the meth industry still wants walt to cook and will not settle for a lesser product because of how thriving their business has become because of the blue sky
walt refuses to cook or hand over his techniques which pisses off wolverine, so they kidnap jesse and threaten him for the techniques
walt knowing jesse will probably give up the recipe out of fear for his life decides to go to war with arizona so he devises his biggest most brilliant, show-stopping plan which includes the m60 machine gun and possibly the cartel
near
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I agree that he might not be content with sitting idle, but that has always been due to he's ability to solve problems, just as much as Hank has the same nature to seek closure. He has tied up almost all loose ends as far as he's aware, and accumulated more income than Skyler can account. Unless he is driven back into the game through covering he's own back I don't see him keeping Heisenberg alive, Heisenberg's luck will clearly soon be over.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
The only thing I know for certain about the final 8 episodes is that the ricin will finally be used.
But who will it be used on GAF?
But who will it be used on GAF?
near
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I think it will depend on who's attacking Walt next, the worst Walt could do is use it on Hank imo, but we'll have to see how far Walt can really go by the end.
The One Who Knocks
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Family members are in the greatest peril from ricin, particularly considering how it is in Walter's house. Everytime the ricin has been introduced it has been to slip it into somebody's food; Tuco with his dinner, the two dealers in the hamburger, Gus in the coffee, Lydia in the coffee. Throughout the entire series their have been numerous scenes in Walter's house in which the family members gather for meals. By using ricin in this manner it would serve as a 'conclusion' to the large amount of meal scenes within the show while also cohesively fitting in with the previous ricin assassination attempts.
It is logical to assume that Skyler is dead (or is fleeing; which would tie into Hank being the victim) by Walter's fifty-second birthday as a result of the missing ring (which was clearly visible in multiple shots in the first half of the season and is also in plain view in the Entertainment Weekly picture above) and the breaking of the annual event (she arranged the rashers on his other birthdays, now he is doing it) which I feel creates a decent probability of her being a victim.
Another alternative is the death of Hank via the ricin. If we assume Hank does not immediately turn in Walter a confrontation (probably not immediately) is certainly a large possibility, especially for the dramatic scene it would provide. If Walter feels he is unable to trust Hank with the secret the ricin would be a potential way to covertly murder him at dinner and eliminate the problem without any trace. Likewise, I believe we have seen Hank make coffee multiple times within the series (I have not rewatched the series again so perhaps I am incorrect on this) and this would allign with the two most recent ricin attempts (Lydia and Gustavo). The discovery of this by Skyler would certainly be enough to cause her to flee with her family and report Walter which could help explain his situation in "Live Free or Die". Regardless, I think there is a decent chance that Hank is the victim.
Outside of these two an accidental death by Holly (who has just begun walking, may mess with the plugs and swallow the ricin which in turn would lead to Skyler fleeing) is a somewhat likely possibility and Walter Junior who has almost exclusively appeared in meal scenes is a possibility to a much lesser extent. I feel Marie is pretty safe since there is little motive for her murder, she hasn't been featured at meals as much as the others and is quite detached from any real threat (as a result I think the only possibility for her to be a victim is through an assassination attempt gone wrong if the plate/drink is switched as with Tuco for Tio).
It may also not be used at all since the use of ricin seems rather predictable (even though the victim isn't particularly) and the writers have often played with expectations in this manner. Introducing a tool for assassination and then toying with it throughout the show only for it never to be used is a possibility and would also remain consistent with how inconsistent of a method it actually is. It really could be anybody but I feel Hank and Skyler are the two most probable victims followed by Holly and after that I think everybody is on level footing.
-Pyromaniac-
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Here is my prediction. Something happens that causes Walt to run and change his identity and then another thing happens that makes him decide to go back with a giant ass M60 and lots of ammo.
Pretty safe prediction
As for why he leaves and why he comes back....could be anything. Maybe finds out his boy Jesse has been taken by the cartel so he goes on a suicide mission since he has nothing left and kills as many people as possible while jesse runs. Walt dies, jesse flees the country, walt's family is left with the money he made that walt hid, hank is left furious and sad.
FIN.
Pretty safe prediction
As for why he leaves and why he comes back....could be anything. Maybe finds out his boy Jesse has been taken by the cartel so he goes on a suicide mission since he has nothing left and kills as many people as possible while jesse runs. Walt dies, jesse flees the country, walt's family is left with the money he made that walt hid, hank is left furious and sad.FIN.
triplestation
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jr. scores weed
jr. needs a place in the house to hide his stash
thinks of the one place his parents won't bother to even consider, the power outlet in parents' bedroom
jr. opens the power outlet
d- dad does cocaine? d- dayum!
jr. takes a snort of ''cocaine''
jr. dies
jr. needs a place in the house to hide his stash
thinks of the one place his parents won't bother to even consider, the power outlet in parents' bedroom
jr. opens the power outlet
d- dad does cocaine? d- dayum!
jr. takes a snort of ''cocaine''
jr. dies
TangoAlphaLima
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The man was a high school chemistry teacher for approximately 20 years. What about that makes you think "being a regular guy" didn't suit him?
I don't think Heisenberg was ever Walt's true persona. Heisenberg was what happened to Walt when he'd been pushed too far. He was finally sick of being the regular guy, the family man, the Pontiac Aztek owner, the high school chemistry teacher working a second job to support his family. Faced with an allegedly incurable disease and an opportunity to cash in on an illegal enterprise, Heisenberg was born.
Maybe Heisenberg is who Walt was all along, and he just suppressed it, but I don't think we ever saw evidence of Heisenberg in the flashbacks. The weight of the evidence simply shows Heisenberg as the alter ego that arose once Walt snapped.
You forget the car chase in the Challenger where jr. shoots a 9mm out the window
LMAO
Hank or Marie.
sixteen-bit
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Various Artists
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Im Thinking somehow Walt ends up in jail.
Breaking Bad almost always makes you think one thing before showing you another. The Machine gun could very well be a red herring. Maybe he gives it to Jesse after setting up a meeting and Jesse guns down a whole cartel or something.
Breaking Bad almost always makes you think one thing before showing you another. The Machine gun could very well be a red herring. Maybe he gives it to Jesse after setting up a meeting and Jesse guns down a whole cartel or something.
-Pyromaniac-
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So I actually read the EW interview cornballer posted above, nice ot finally hear some details on what we can expect story wise. Really excited.
Grinchy
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I'm not saying you're wrong, but I do see it differently. He has such a huge ego that IMO his decision to become a high school teacher was his way of "punishing the world." He could have stayed on at his company and did great things in the scientific world, but because he couldn't have it the way he wanted it at the time, he grabbed his ball and went home, thinking that without him, he was ruining the game for everyone else. The fact that things moved along just fine without him ate at him for years, but that's another story.
The fact that people can interpret all of this in different ways goes to show how well it is written. I personally feel like the entire point of showing the flashbacks was to show that there was always a little Heisenberg inside of him just waiting to bust out. I don't think the point of the flashbacks was to show that he was a regular guy without any of these tendencies so we're led to believe that they burst into existence when he got sick. But I like that there are so many differing opinions.
triplestation
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i agree
i believe we all have a heisenberg, locked deep inside of us and it will most likely never be pushed to the edge like it has been for walter because we have the rest of our lives left
fortunately for walt he also has an innate knowledge of business and chemistry, just begging to be applied in his most unfortunate situation
CookedChocobo
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I beg to differ. Everything that Walt did starting from beginning of season 1 till where the story is now was the result of Walt being uncontent with his whole life so far.
And did you not watch episode 6 of Season 5, "Buyout"? How come you think Walt didnt give in to Jessie's and Mike's plan?
Cornballer
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- GQ UK: Bryan Cranston talks Breaking Bad (~15 min video interview)
The Lamonster
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Here is my prediction. Something happens that causes Walt to run and change his identity and then another thing happens that makes him decide to go back with a giant ass M60 and lots of ammo.
Pretty safe prediction
FIN.
IAWTP.
killertofu
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I wanna do a complete rewatch but the allure of Season 5 is getting to me...
Prediction: He'll come back and save Jessy, but the police will be on his heels.
So right before they catch him, he'll grab the Ricin capsule, hide it on his body
and let himself be caught.
As he's about to be sentenced and believing he's about to be found Guilty, he takes the Ricin and smugly listens to the Judge only to be stunned with a Not Guilty verdict.
Final scene is a speechless Walter riding in a FBI car with his wife and children as Skylar reveals she made a plea bargain with the police to secure his release. As she talks of putting everything behind them and starting a new life, Walter is still sitting in slack jawed disbelief, waiting for the Ricin to kick in.
So right before they catch him, he'll grab the Ricin capsule, hide it on his body
most likely up his ass
As he's about to be sentenced and believing he's about to be found Guilty, he takes the Ricin and smugly listens to the Judge only to be stunned with a Not Guilty verdict.
Final scene is a speechless Walter riding in a FBI car with his wife and children as Skylar reveals she made a plea bargain with the police to secure his release. As she talks of putting everything behind them and starting a new life, Walter is still sitting in slack jawed disbelief, waiting for the Ricin to kick in.
killertofu
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I rewatched Season 5 today.
Goddamn best show ever. I really regret not seeing Jesse when I was in LA
Goddamn best show ever. I really regret not seeing Jesse when I was in LA
Mr. Saturn
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I like this idea a lot, but why would Walt give ricin to the judge? Would it be some sort of final fuck you before he goes to prison? Because there's no way Walt would be dumb enough to think that killing a judge would prevent him from being found guilty.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Yeah starting mine in July. I am ready.
Robot Pants
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Read again
Coffee Dog
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If jesse died I think it would hurt his entire arc. Out of anyone, he's grown the most in a positive directipn and became a better man. If he died that would all be for nothibg.
Mr. Saturn
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Never mind you're right, I reread it and now it makes sense, guess my reading comprehension is off/terrible today.
Cornballer
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- AMC Content: Breaking Bad Late-Night Encores Return to AMC This Friday
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
What are the chances we get a teaser for the season during sundays finale of Mad Men?
Cornballer
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It'd make sense for them to air one then, but who knows with AMC.
Cornballer
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killertofu
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz-5z7J-V-8
Has this been posted? Aaron Paul was on the Price is Right
Has this been posted? Aaron Paul was on the Price is Right
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