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Breaking Bad - Season 5 interim thread - the series concludes Summer 2013 on AMC

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hlhbk

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Hell on Wheels' recent season went up on Netflix streaming today in preparation of its new season starting the day before Breaking Bad. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Breaking Bad is up tomorrow in that case. *wishful thinking*

I know this is a breaking bad thread but how is Hell on Wheels?
 

Roland1979

Junior Member
Besides Dexter this is my fav show now. Watched all 4 seasons in one go, after hearing so many good things about it. Might pick up Sons of Anarchy again, but somewhere along the road i lost interest.
 

rekameohs

Banned
Ahem...

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Another New Teaser!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xa0hFZsuMA&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D1Xa0hFZsuMA

This one has a whole 5 seconds of new footage and one new line of dialogue (oh boy!). AMC's really trying to market their new shows with Breaking Bad and Mad Men coming to an end, but uh, good luck.
 

Cindres

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I had a dream last night in which I watched/was there for the finale of Breaking Bad, so I know how it's going to end. Brace yourselves folks:

(Some actual spoilers up to the final of S5 Part 1)
So Jesse and Walt have to do one final cook for some reason, but at this point Hank knows all about them and the DEA is now on to them as Hank is hell bent on taking them down because he's FUCKING PISSED.
They realise the only place they can cook now and not get caught is to do it in space, so they steal an ISS module and blast off into space with it to do their final cook in zero-gravity on the edge of space. Disaster strikes however when a fault in the module means the pair need to do a space-walk to fix the damage and prevent their floating space capsule from collapsing all together. Whilst out in the void however, the pair get into an argument about something (this bit's hazy) and begin to fight. Walt's mask is broken and he's unable to breath but Jesse sees through the madness to offer Walt his breathing apparatus (because apparently it works the same as being underwater) and they get back inside the still-broken space module.
At this point the module's orbitational device fails and they begin to fall towards the earth. The capsule hurtles towards the ground until it comes to an almighty, devastating crash in the middle of the desert. The last thing we see is the slow movement of rubble from the wreck and a single hand pulling itself from the carnage.

Oh and also at one point drug dealers were getting stabbed with sharpies but I can't remember how that fit into it.
 

squidyj

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The final shot better not be a flashback. No need to start insulting the audience at this point.

the one and only thing I really didn't like about the first half was that cut of "you caught me" when Hank was reading the book. I really didn't need that and it came off as cheap.
 

Cindres

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the one and only thing I really didn't like about the first half was that cut of "you caught me" when Hank was reading the book. I really didn't need that and it came off as cheap.

It was fairly obvious anyway but I quite liked the cut, the mood during that scene the first time round was fantastic and the little cut back to that dark room to me was spot-on.
 

Quidam

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the one and only thing I really didn't like about the first half was that cut of "you caught me" when Hank was reading the book. I really didn't need that and it came off as cheap.

Look, I'm all for 'give the audience some credit' arguments, but in this particular instance you absolutely, 100% needed the flashback. A lot of people love Breaking Bad, fully understand the plot, and so forth, but don't remember every last thing that has happened in the past.

Maybe they could have just played the audio from the flashback over Hank reading the book, but that wouldn't have been as effective. Also, as Cindres says, going back to the darkness and anxiety of when we first saw that scene was good drama.
 

squidyj

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Look, I'm all for 'give the audience some credit' arguments, but in this particular instance you absolutely, 100% needed the flashback. A lot of people love Breaking Bad, fully understand the plot, and so forth, but don't remember every last thing that has happened in the past.

Maybe they could have just played the audio from the flashback over Hank reading the book, but that wouldn't have been as effective. Also, as Cindres says, going back to the darkness and anxiety of when we first saw that scene was good drama.

It didn't work for me, if they wanted to remind us about the gale connection I think they could have found a better way.
 
It didn't work for me, if they wanted to remind us about the gale connection I think they could have found a better way.

The way I took it was that Hank felt not just stupid for not making the connections before, but that he was actually being mocked by Walt, and yes indeed Hank was being mocked by Walt. It wasn't about reminding the audience, but about making the statement "Walt has been caught."
 
I thought that one flashback shot worked well but I thought we would get tons more of them. I thought Hank was going to flashback to every single point where Walt's behavior means something different now that Hank knows. The school, Badger's bust, the car crash. I kind of wanted to see that but I don't think it would have been a good idea.
 
I wonder how fast Hank will figure the rest of it out. I'm sure he will, but I wonder if they'll put it all in the first ep, I mean. I can't wait to see his face when he realizes the real purpose of the car wash and the gambling and that Skyler is a part of this too.

and I think that flashback is awesome
 
One more early review:

- Hollywood Chicago Review: TV Review: AMC Begins Final Arc of Beloved ‘Breaking Bad’ *spoilers*
Creative confidence has long been a hallmark of “Breaking Bad” but the program has rarely seemed more sure of where it’s going than it does right now. We drift from great programs when it feels like the writers know about as much about where their characters are going as we do. I don’t think there’s ever been a moment of doubt in the entire arc of “Breaking Bad” but it’s more notable than ever. In Vince Gilligan we trust.
 
I wonder how fast Hank will figure the rest of it out. I'm sure he will, but I wonder if they'll put it all in the first ep, I mean. I can't wait to see his face when he realizes the real purpose of the car wash and the gambling and that Skyler is a part of this too.

and I think that flashback is awesome
Agreed. I think the flashback was great. It was not about "reminding the audience" at all, it was about showing us what Hank is thinking about at that exact moment, "he's been under my nose all along!" That moment was pricelesss, nothing cheap about it.
 

Cindres

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Whats worse was Walt's open giveaway when he got drunk at the dinner table that night. The more you think about the stuff that Hank should have picked up on the more you realise just how mad he's going to be. So many times when Walt was essentially taunting Hank.
 

Nameless

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ThanksVision said:
I wonder how fast Hank will figure the rest of it out. I'm sure he will, but I wonder if they'll put it all in the first ep, I mean. I can't wait to see his face when he realizes the real purpose of the car wash and the gambling and that Skyler is a part of this too.

and I think that flashback is awesome

I have to imagine all those neon signs pointing to Walt he didn't allow himself to see will come rushing back and things will start to make sense.

-the sudden interest in seeing a meth bust
-the gas mask and missing cook supplies from Walt's school.
-Walt interrupting the Badger sting
-the Heisenberg sketch
-Marie's fake accident
-Why Pinkman's kept name kept popping up
-the car crash while tracking down Firing etc etc
 
I wonder how fast Hank will figure the rest of it out. I'm sure he will, but I wonder if they'll put it all in the first ep, I mean. I can't wait to see his face when he realizes the real purpose of the car wash and the gambling and that Skyler is a part of this too.

and I think that flashback is awesome

There should be a moment where Hank wonders why he never saw it, and thinks about what his former boss said abut Gus. then there have to be a moment where he thinks about the expensive watch and cars and really wonders what is wrong with himself.
 

Cindres

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I have to imagine all those neon signs pointing to Walt he didn't allow himself to see will come rushing back and things will start to make sense.

-the sudden interest in seeing a meth bust
-the gas mask and missing cook supplies from Walt's school.
-Walt interrupting the Badger sting
-the Heisenberg sketch
-Marie's fake accident
-Why Pinkman's kept name kept popping up
-the car crash while tracking down Firing etc etc

And of course how people like Fring were able to be one step ahead of the game at all times, though that may still not be that obvious because he obviously didn't/doesn't know what Fring was up to behind the scenes (else I guess Walt would have been busted already).
 
- Warming Glow: ‘Breaking Bad’ Season 5 Starts Streaming On Netflix This Weekend, Apparently
Hey, so remember last week when I told you all the different ways you can watch the first half of Breaking Bad Season 5 before the final episodes begin in less than two weeks? Yeah, forget all that. Because one fan with acute attention to detail has noticed that it’s going to be streaming on Netflix in just a few short days. August 2, 2013 to be exact.

Netflix isn’t exactly advertising the news, but they did inform us if you were willing to pay close enough attention. Here’s a screengrab from the Breaking Bad-Netflix DVD page as evidence…

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liquidtmd

Banned
In terms of flashbacks I wouldn't mind a one off opening where every single clue that Walt was Heisenberg to Hank, from the theft of gas masks at his school from S1 right through to the finale of 5A, played out...to end with Hank waking up in bed in a cold sweat and saying 'HOLY MOTHER OF FUCKBALLS SON OF A BITCH' or cutting to Hank, instead of in bed, loading up on assault rifles commanding a team to take down and invade Walts house.

Cue Theme Tune and smokey BB intro
 
In terms of flashbacks I wouldn't mind a one off opening where every single clue that Walt was Heisenberg to Hank, from the theft of gas masks at his school from S1 right through to the finale of 5A, played out...to end with Hank waking up in bed in a cold sweat and saying 'HOLY MOTHER OF FUCKBALLS SON OF A BITCH' or cutting to Hank, instead of in bed, loading up on assault rifles commanding a team to take down and invade Walts house.

Cue Theme Tune and smokey BB intro

No, they should cut back and forth between all those flashbacks and that footage of
hank raging out
from that short promo a few weeks back!
 
I think the series will end with that video tape Walt made in the first episode right before he thought he was going to get caught. Seems so fitting.
 

dave is ok

aztek is ok
Doesnt mean it still couldnt be played. Doesnt necessarily have to be watched by someone, just could be shown again to the audience.
Why ? To show that his intentions were good at the start when the show has repeatedly shown multiple opportunities to change his path that he never took.
 

rekameohs

Banned
Doesnt mean it still couldnt be played. Doesnt necessarily have to be watched by someone, just could be shown again to the audience.
That sounds unbearably cliched. I don't want any flashbacks to the Hank stuff at all. The one in 5A worked so well because of "Heh. You got me." We don't need to see the other suspicious things Walt said to Hank; we remember them. They'd just eat up into the precious minutes that remain.
 

Amir0x

Banned
Would kind of make the use of the poem meaningless, then. I guess they could do it but in hindsight it would be stupid and this show isn't stupid.

it wouldn't even make sense. how could Walt lose everything and still manage to forever evade police? He gonna take the money he made and evade them in Aruba for the rest of his days? One, that'd be a comically awful ending, and two that's not the way it works. As much as Walt likes to think he's a big bad, he's not a big bad, and once he burns that last bridge, he won't have anywhere to hide. Everyone who even had the tiniest shred of compassion for him basically hates him now.
 
it wouldn't even make sense. how could Walt lose everything and still manage to forever evade police? He gonna take the money he made and evade them in Aruba for the rest of his days? One, that'd be a comically awful ending, and two that's not the way it works. As much as Walt likes to think he's a big bad, he's not a big bad, and once he burns that last bridge, he won't have anywhere to hide. Everyone who even had the tiniest shred of compassion for him basically hates him now.

I thought the opener to season 5 proves there is no escape for Walt. He's going DOWN with guns blazing. Of course it may not be that obvious but they could just homage Scarface so hard at this point with a final scene.
 

dave is ok

aztek is ok
I bet Hank will be all "I remember that time I held up Walt's picture on the collection jar at work and I framed it perfectly under the "WANTED" sign for Tuco... damn".
 
I thought the opener to season 5 proves there is no escape for Walt. He's going DOWN with guns blazing. Of course it may not be that obvious but they could just homage Scarface so hard at this point with a final scene.

This show is masterful at misdirection. Remember all the teasers in season 2, where everyone thought they were foreshadowing a terrible explosion at the White household, with two bodies being bagged next to the Aztek? And how it really just turned out to be this mostly unrelated plane crash?

I actually wouldn't be surprised if the ending turned out better for Walt than what we're all expecting.
 

rekameohs

Banned
I'm fairly certain we get a cold open of Jesse being a student in one of Walts classes, or maybe a flashback.

Makeup artists would have a fun time getting a 33 year old man to look like a high school student. RJ Mitte already has the way-too-old-for-school bug that TV shows get.
 
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