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Breaking Bad - Season 5 interim thread - the series concludes Summer 2013 on AMC

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ZedIndyLil

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I just can't get enough of that Ozymandias promo. Just pure mood.

Only thing I'm not looking forward to this season is the endless Skylar debate :p
 
The Lamonster

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CassSept said:
I'm finishing my rewatch of the entire series and I just experienced one "THAT SHOW" moment that I don't remember from this thread.

Fifty-One. Final scene. The scene where Walt shows Skyler the watch he was given by Jesse, goes to the bedroom, and puts it on his nightstand. The clock is ticking away, which yeah, is pretty much on-the-nose knowing we are nearing the end coupled with Mike's earlier quote about Walt being a ticking time-bomb. Pretty obvious moment.

Only what it really was saying actually wasn't that obvious. He doesn't simply put in on his nightstand. He puts the watch on Gale's copy of Leaves of Grass that was there.

And we even get a nice close-up with only watch ticking away Walt's time and Leaves of Grass. Episode 4 right here and there indicates that this book will be Walt's ultimate downfall.

Damn. It might not be as mind-blowing to some, but it was to me.
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I wonder what other obvious foreshadowing we will find after watching the finale.

There is a part in season 4 where Marie jokingly says she'd take Holly for the next 18 years if she needed to...
 
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Black Mamba

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uh, Skyler didn't cheat on Walt. She had already given him divorce papers by then.

And her reaction wasn't childish, Walt's was. He broke back into his own home and refused to leave. Unfortunately in society, sometimes the only way for them to gain power is through sex.
 
Nameless

Nameless

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BobTheFork said:
No sympathy for Jesse. Jane was a great person sober and Jesse dragged back into something that killed her. That's was his guilt was about and he was fucking right.
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Jesse isn't blameless but he atleast tried to kick her out knowing he was about to do crystal. Not only did she decide to stay but was like, "Hey, lets mix this meth with heroin and shoot it up!".


Ignatz Mouse said:
No sympathy for Jane or Jesse in that period. Jesse is at his least likable and once Jane started using she became a different person.

She didn't deserve to die though, that's the crime I couldn't forgive Walt for.
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Addicted to the two most horrible drugs on the planet with a half a million dollars at their disposal... I honestly believe they were dead the moment Walt dropped off the duffle bag. He knows this, which is why Jane's dad's whole thing about never giving up on family struck a chord and he went back.

She didn't deserve to die and I definitely wouldn't say what Walt did was right, but I have a hard time calling it completely wrong given the circumstances.
 
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Cornballer

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- Film Society of Lincoln Center is hosting Q&A panels and episode marathons tomorrow & Friday
It's a big news day for Breaking Bad fans. Just this morning the series picked up seven Primetime Emmy nominations including Outstanding Drama and Outstanding Actor in a Drama for Bryan Cranston. On top of that, the Film Society's partnership with AMC just keeps getting better. In addition to our free screenings of every Breaking Bad episode so far, we are thrilled to announce details about The Perfect Batch: Breaking Bad Cast Favorites. These screenings will take place Thursday, August 1 and Friday, August 2 at the Film Society's Walter Reade Theater.

Thursday's first panel at 6:15pm will feature Anna Gunn, RJ Mitte, and Bob Odenkirk. The three, who play Walter White's wife Skyler, son Walt Jr., and the morally uncentered criminal lawyer Saul Goodman, respectively, will show two of their favorite episodes followed by a Q&A moderated by Matt Zoller Seitz of New York Magazine.

The second panel on Thursday will take place at 9:00pm with multiple Emmy-winning star Bryan Cranston, who will also screen two episodes and engage in a Q&A with Seitz.

Panel 3, which will take place Friday at 6:15pm, will bring actors Betsy Brandt and Dean Norris, who play Marie and Hank Schrader, to the Film Society. Following their two chosen episodes, there will be a Q&A moderated by The New Yorker's Emily Nussbaum.

Our fourth and final panel on Friday at 9:00pm will feature series mastermind and multiple WGA Award winner Vince Gilligan (creator, executive producer, writer, and director), whose previous credits include The X-Files. The Q&A following his two favorite episodes will also be moderated by Nussbaum.
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The Q&A will stream here tomorrow and Friday when available.
 
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rekameohs

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Pretty awesome that the Ozymandias trailer is on the front page of YouTube and has 335,000 views already. Nice to see his show's popularity rise.
 
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Dion Blaster

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DBebm5 said:
I just can't get enough of that Ozymandias promo. Just pure mood.

Only thing I'm not looking forward to this season is the endless Skylar debate :p
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I have a gut feeling that Skyler will come out of season 5.2 as a major badass.

Servbot24 said:
Does someone who willingly pumps themselves full of a deadly substance not deserve to die?
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I think there's a point where it ceases to be willingly. It's dumb to try those drugs in the first place but it's incredibly difficult for many to escape such an addiction.
 
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CassSept

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The Lamonster said:
I wonder what other obvious foreshadowing we will find after watching the finale.

There is a part in season 4 where Marie jokingly says she'd take Holly for the next 18 years if she needed to...
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Two random ones that might come into play.

One is pretty obvious, about Scarface, "Everybody dies in this movie, huh?".

Another that might be interesting that I caught, episode title spoilers.
In "Madrigal" Walter threw a remark about no more to cooks in some Indian reservations 50 miles away. "To'hajiilee", episode 14. Google maps shows me To'hajiilee reservation is around 35-40 miles from ABQ. Something huge will obviously happen there, but what exactly? Hm. I'm guessing this might be the immediate cause for him leaving to New Hampshire, but no idea what it might be

Matt Damon somehow has to factor into his downfall too, he quit and cast him aside way too easily, and that guy is unhinged.
 
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Servbot24

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The Lamonster said:
Who made you judge and jury?
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No one, it's just the way life works. If I decide that I want to have a high wire act, I deserve an increased chance of injury over if I didn't have one. If you do dangerous things, you get higher risks.

And yes, Jane does deserve help, but that doesn't nullify the fact that she has chosen to accept certain health-related risks.
 
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Cornballer

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- Matt Zoller Seitz for NY Mag: Revisiting Breaking Bad Season 2: When Did Walter Become Heisenberg?
When did Walter White become Heisenberg?

It's a trick question with no right answer, except maybe to say that the Breaking Bad hero and his meth-dealing, murdering alter ego have been locked in combat since season one of Vince Gilligan's crime drama, and that each identity dominates or recedes, depending on the situation.

But somewhere during the show's run, Heisenberg gained the upper hand. Throughout season one and the first part of season two (maybe!), the aggrieved, milquetoast chemistry teacher Walter White controlled Heisenberg like a marionette, but somewhere along the line the marionette figured out that he could pull Walter's strings. I think it's fair to say that halfway through season five Heisenberg is running things and using Walter as a beard, one that's only convincing to people that haven't spent much time in Walt's company recently.

This is all rather complicated, even by dark-cable-drama standards. If you buy the idea that Walter, like everyone, has several "self-states" that exist simultaneously without canceling each other out — or that, to quote Breaking Bad's favorite poet Walt Whitman, the character is large and contains multitudes — then you're led to conclude that Walter is still in there somewhere, buried deep inside the scary façade of Heisenberg like a decent man locked in a dark fortress, and that maybe, if he's lucky, he'll get out before it's all over and try to set things right, or at least tell everyone he's sorry before he gets buried up to his neck in a hill full of scorpions, torn apart by tractors, or sent to wander in the winds.

That said: I think Heisenberg began dominating Walter somewhere in season two. But when?
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More via the link.
 
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Cornballer

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- A few behind-the-scenes pics from the upcoming Mythbusters episode
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Bigfoot

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metalslimer said:
Wtf, Jane was probably going to kill Jesse but he deserved to die more than she did.
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I think Jesse and Jane were on their way to mess up their lives a lot more but they might not have died. However, when they ran out of money, I think that would have meant trouble for Walt. Jane was totally ready to blackmail him.

I don't think Walt at that time had it in him to kill Jane if she blackmailed him. Season 4 or 5 Walt would totally kill Jane though.
 
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Cindres

Vied for a tag related to cocks, so here it is.
Ok fuck it I've been thinking about it because I'm normally terrible with finales, Sopranos, Friends and more I just turn into a small baby with.
What are the chances the finale or any of the upcoming episodes will be tearjerkers? There has to be something here when I'm so invested in all these characters.

EDIT: Also, I stumbled on this while doing a nearly daily watch of the final part of S5P1 (because fuck it gives me shivers every time). Here's a short video of a bunch of times Walt totally gave it away/straight up told Hank he was Heisenberg EDIT 2: Wow what do you know here's a better, more filled out one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arG4KLhoxi4
 
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big ander

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Cindres said:
Ok fuck it I've been thinking about it because I'm normally terrible with finales, Sopranos, Friends and more I just turn into a small baby with.
What are the chances the finale or any of the upcoming episodes will be tearjerkers? There has to be something here when I'm so invested in all these characters.
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as someone who has seen the rest of the show, do you really need an answer to this?
 
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Dany

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I am pretty sure I almost had a panic attack during Crawl Space. I should probably see a doctor about the upcoming season. Same when Walt killed Mike


:p
 
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BigAT

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I hope everyone in the Spanish version has the same mastery of the Spanish language as Giancarlo Esposito does.
 
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Crimson-Death

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CassSept said:
And we even get a nice close-up with only watch ticking away Walt's time and Leaves of Grass. Episode 4 right here and there indicates that this book will be Walt's ultimate downfall.

Damn. It might not be as mind-blowing to some, but it was to me.
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Mind-blowing to me too, but not unexpected on a rewatch to catch some of that awesomeness.

So many months waiting, and we are finally in the final days.....
 
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Draper

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Any idea when the latest season will be up on Netflix? My one friends wants to catch up before the new season premieres.
 
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Cornballer

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- Poniewozik for Time: It’s Not Breaking Bad’s Job to Punish Walter White *some spoilers*
It's Breaking Bad's responsibility to make us think about what Walt deserves. But it's not the show's responsibility to give it to him.
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- Salon: Breaking Bad, Nurse Jackie, and the Complete Inversion of '60s Drug Culture
TV's self-centered, drug-obsessed antiheroes make the flower-power promise of Owsley Stanley and the clean-and-sober promise of the War on Drugs seem like cruel jokes.
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- Seattle Times: As the end draws near, it’s hard to let go of ‘Breaking Bad’ *some spoilers*
“Breaking Bad” has come a long way since its under-the-radar launch in 2008. Millions of viewers are anxiously waiting for the final episodes of the dark drama.
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UrbanRats

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It's Breaking Bad's responsibility to make us think about what Walt deserves. But it's not the show's responsibility to give it to him.
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I don't expect them to punish him.
Infact, i'd quite enjoy a bittersweet ending where Walt doesn't pay for his crimes, i'm all for a downer ending.
 
The Lamonster

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I think everyone around Walt will be screwed, yet he'll get away (with his money) and realize his life is empty without his loved ones.
 
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Crisco

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I think Sky and Jesse turn on Walt with the DEA in exchange for immunity, everyone else either dies, goes to jail, or is on the run. Walt runs to New Hampshire with his cash, and the "flash-forward" was him coming back to ABQ to kill Hank, Sky, and Jesse for fucking him over.
 
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bodyofanamerican

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How soon are new episodes up on iTunes after they air?

My buddy is having his bachelor party in Tampa the weekend of the finale (what a dick, right?) and if I can't see it live, I will need to download it ASAP because I will probably literally explode if I have to wait a day or two to watch it.
 
Nameless

Nameless

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UrbanRats said:
I don't expect them to punish him.
Infact, i'd quite enjoy a bittersweet ending where Walt doesn't pay for his crimes, i'm all for a downer ending.
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Vince's opinions about Walter White have gotten increasingly scathing the past couple if years. He seems to have developed a legit grudge against the character. The way Walt was written last year, especially, leads me to believe they're setting him up for a horrific fall these last 8 episodes.

Doesn't matter. Whether it crashes & burns or rides off into the sunset I'm on the Walt train till the end. Team Walt is for life. Sad so many, including the show runner, have forgotten this.
 
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Ignatz Mouse

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Rooting for Walt at this point is kinda weird, IMHO. I am hoping for a glorious karmic payday.

I know we might not get one, but I think we will.
 
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Zoso Achilles

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CassSept said:
I'm finishing my rewatch of the entire series and I just experienced one "THAT SHOW" moment that I don't remember from this thread.

Fifty-One. Final scene. The scene where Walt shows Skyler the watch he was given by Jesse, goes to the bedroom, and puts it on his nightstand. The clock is ticking away, which yeah, is pretty much on-the-nose knowing we are nearing the end coupled with Mike's earlier quote about Walt being a ticking time-bomb. Pretty obvious moment.

Only what it really was saying actually wasn't that obvious. He doesn't simply put in on his nightstand. He puts the watch on Gale's copy of Leaves of Grass that was there.

And we even get a nice close-up with only watch ticking away Walt's time and Leaves of Grass. Episode 4 right here and there indicates that this book will be Walt's ultimate downfall.

Damn. It might not be as mind-blowing to some, but it was to me.
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That same scene, at the very end I swear the last sound is a gun cocking. My brother pointed it out to me and I definitely heard it the second time I listened. Has anyone else heard this?
 
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