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[KarmaCow]

Heh, I read reviews and summaries, and it seems that people are mad because Dexter pretty much won. Everything went perfectly for him. Breaking Bad ended exactly the same - sure the main character is dead, but everything went about according to his plans. Skyler is safe, his family will have money, the brotherhood is dead, Lydia is dead... No more blue meth... Everything was perfect.

The Dexter finale was just a clusterfuck of some good ideas with god awful execution. Dexter didn't "win" at all, it was just terrible.

 

[Mr. Blonde]

I don't think Walt really planned on dying per se (or at least, any specific way). He even said "whatever happens to me". Before he went there, he expected Jesse was a partner and not a slave. So I don't agree it was his plan to manipulate him to kill him all along.

i dont think walt really thought jesse was a partner.

 

[MattDoza]

What a fantastic way to end it.

Also:

Spoiler

The new Need for Speed movie is the canon sequel to Breaking Bad right

I was laughing to myself about that whole trailer. "They took everything from me!"

 

[Cornballer]

Content Roundup - Episode 8 - Felina

Videos

- Inside Episode 516 Breaking Bad: Felina
- Making of Episode 516 Felina: Breaking Bad
- Farewell to Breaking Bad​

Reviews

Coming later
- Onion A|V Club review (placeholder for now)​

Other

- AMC Q&A: Jesse Plemons (Todd Alquist)
- Poniewozik @ Time: How Walter White Became the One Who Knocks
- The Onion: ‘Breaking Bad’ Ends With Reveal That Whole Series Was Plot of Book Marie Shoplifted
- Bad Finger - Baby Blue (closing song)
- El Paso (Full-Length Version) - Marty Robbins​

 

[Maninthemirror]

I loved how he redeemed himself to the people who knew about what he did before everyone found out and to the ones who found out later he will still be considered the monster who killed hank.

 

[Fatalah]

Not sure why I'm suddenly feeling optimistic, but it would be damn awesome to see how Walt gets himself out of the crappy situation he's in.

And Walt certainly did!

Great night for Vince Gilligan and the writing crew.

 

[Flo_Evans]

Sad this is over.

 

[Zeliard]

Vince Gilligan just related a cut scene from the finale that would have been quite cool to watch. Shame they couldn't fit it in.

 

[schuelma]

I'll give you some bad episodes of S5 for The Wire. But if you felt ANYTHING was off in S4 (especially "Final Grades"), then I don't know if high tier tv is for you.

Yup. Plus, while I would definitely say season 5 is the weakest, the last few episodes closed the series out imcredibly well IMO.

 

[Pimpwerx]

End song was so out of place, I really didn't like it.

I didn't like that there was no "moment" between Jesse and Walt, they just look at each other like two idiots. In all of last 8 episodes Jesse had very little presence. Shame.
If they had a moment where they said a couple of sentences to each other, it would be much better. Instead I get a prequel to NFS where Jesse drives like a race driver.

Ok ending like I said. In a few hr when hype goes down, most of you will agree.

Or...most of us will just enjoy it for what it was, closure.

Walt and Jesse didn't need to do anymore. Walt punished Jesse by giving him to the nazis, but spared his lifeo in the end. All he wanted was to punish him in the end, like a father. Jesse spares his life because he's done doing what Walt says. Now he's free and able to walk his own path. The nazis that threatened Walt's family and stole his money are all gone, and Walt gets to die by his own hands, in a lab. He gets all the blame (credit) for the drug empire, and his family will get off scot-free. On top of that, his son gets a big pile of money when he becomes a man, like he wanted. About the only thing missing was Walt getting to talk to Jr, but he did already last episode.

I loved it. It's not hype, it's just that I got what I wanted out of this episode. I didn't really expect Walt to live or go free. The cancer would kill him eventually anyway. This way he kinda goes out a winner. Good for him. PEACE.

 

[Sotha Sil]

They went with the pulp, badass ending, which was pretty predictable given Gilligan's comments about the finale's last scene a few months back. Which really muddies (what I thought was) the show's message in my eye.

Still, it's perfect closure and Ozymandias was the real "bad things happen when you let your pride take control" finale, I guess.

 

[reKon]

The whole experience would have better if I watched this without the commercials after it airred, but for this show I couldn't wait.

Thank you for a masterful show Vince and everyone involved.

 

[140.85]

Is it possible to recover from Ricin poisoning if it's caught at that point though? I would have played it safe and not told her she was poisoned.

 

[Courage]

Why name the episode Felina?

The song in the beginning and the one he sings is called Felina. Read the lyrics and you'll figure out why it's called that.

 

[Coop]

It was alright, I agree with the person earlier who said this was the worst episode of the season. It really should have been a longer episode

 

[Macattk15]

I'll give you some bad episodes of S5 for The Wire. But if you felt ANYTHING was off in S4 (especially "Final Grades"), then I don't know if high tier tv is for you.

Yeah I mainly meant S5 as being shitty imo. S4 was good. That episode in particular #Bodie.

 

[Mononoke]

Good finale. Lazy writing and uneventfulness marred the first 60 minutes, but the last 15 were great. Do wish there was a longer Jesse/Walt scene.

What was lazy and uneventful?

 

[ultron87]

I loved that the way he died made it look like he'd still been cooking that whole time.

 

[StriKeVillain]

That's the reason why it is so good. It still managed to be an equal to those shows even being on regular cable tv.

Completely agree. Even with its limitations it was able to be an absolutely amazing, deep and creative show. Will probably sit at #3 for me right now. What a great ride.

 

[slightconfuse]

That scrne they cut could have been it interesting

 

[Maninthemirror]

Is it possible to recover from Ricin poisoning if it's caught at that point though? I would have played it safe and not told her she was poisoned.

3rd time posting, it's not after a day

 

[kuppy]

That scene Vince just told on Talking Bad sounded good - nice that the script will be on that special blu ray

 

[Dug]

Vince Gilligan just related a cut scene from the finale that would have been quite cool to watch. Shame they couldn't fit it in.

What was it?

 

[mackattk]

I am in the same boat as while I liked this episode, it somewhat pales in comparison to the rest of the episodes of this season.

I will need to rewatch it without the commercials. I swear half the viewing time was dedicated to commercials. It really broke the flow of the finale.

 

[RustyNails]

The ricin has been in her system for around 24 hours. She is pretty boned.

Too late. It's been at least a day or two

Why do you monsters want to kill my Lydia

 

[Trouble]

I loved that the way he died made it look like he'd still been cooking that whole time.

Blue meth was his product, so by proxy he kinda was.

 

[Mortalias]

Incredible ending to the greatest television show ever made. It's finally all over.

 

[Kuroyume]

Why the hell are people still quoting Mr.Awesome?


Anyway, so what happened to Huell?

 

[criesofthepast]

Vince just said on Talking Bad that Walt went there expecting to kill Jesse, but then changed his mind when he saw him as a slave.

Jimmy said that, Vince just acknowledged that as a possibility if you want to think that.

 

[Mononoke]

i dont think walt really thought jesse was a partner.

I disagree. He was pretty angry that Jesse was still alive, and multiple times suggested Jesse was cooking with the Nazis. And the shot where Walt looks Jesse up and down, IMO Walt made a split second decision to dive on Jesse and save him too. I do not think that was originally planned.

Vince even said on Talking Bad, that Walt went there, initially to kill Jesse along with the Nazis.

 

[C.Dark.DN]

Amazing finale. I called it a while ago :


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=82060697&postcount=7090




Though after Walt admitted he did it for himself, I was kinda' hoping they would let him live and jet off to Europe somewhere to become full blown Heisenberg but that would have been too far fetched.

No offense, but I'm sure everyone was expecting him to die, especially considering the foreshadowing in the pilot and everything he's done.

Him getting redemption doesn't need him to live. It would primarily involve saving Jesse like many said and wanted, but it's not full blown redemption.

 

[dave is ok]

Felina is the name of the girl in the song. That's why.

 

[Kvik]

So, gentlemen. SOTF, the verdict:

1. Breaking Bad
2. The Wire

etc.?

 

[Thorakai]

Vince Gilligan just related a cut scene from the finale that would have been quite cool to watch. Shame they couldn't fit it in.

I agree. I'm really surprised this show never had a flashback scene to when Jesse was Walt's student in high school. Would have been a great opportunity to show how their relationship evolved to what it is now.

 

[brickarts295]

For the love of God

 

[Zeliard]

What was it?

Walt confronting one of his old chem students who noticed and made him in the gas station after he'd made the phone call pretending to be a newspaper reporter.

 

[ncsuDuncan]

This just confirms my theory that the writers of Lost were high on meth:

EDIT: Well, shit. Beaten to the punch!

 

[Courage]

What was it?

Walt meets another former high school student of his in the gas station, and he asks him if he thought he was a good teacher, and the kid says "yeah, I remember you spraying some chemical on fire and they changed color".

 

[KevinRo]

Jimmy said that, Vince just acknowledged that as a possibility if you want to think that.

Don't forget Walt was already on his way back before he put together the fact that Jesse was making the meth.

 

[Mononoke]

Jimmy said that, Vince just acknowledged that as a possibility if you want to think that.

"I think you are right" - then tells the audience about John Wayne going to kill a character, then seeing them and realizing he couldn't.

Lol come on now. Also, Vince isn't really going to tell people how to interpret his story. If some of you want to believe Walt went there to manipulate Jesse to kill him, that's more than valid. But I don't think the scenes we had in this episode support that.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

Heh, I read reviews and summaries, and it seems that people are mad because Dexter pretty much won. Everything went perfectly for him. Breaking Bad ended exactly the same - sure the main character is dead, but everything went about according to his plans. Skyler is safe, his family will have money, the brotherhood is dead, Lydia is dead... No more blue meth... Everything was perfect.

Part of the reason that people were pissed is

Spoiler

because one of the last people to die because of Dexter gave a deathbed speech about how nothing was Dexter's fault so he deserved happiness, none of the police figured out that Dexter was Miami Serial Killer #034472, and he drove a boat into a CG hurricane and miraculously survived to become a lumberjack, which was somehow supposed to be his punishment.

Also, y'all all praising Lionel for that Badger and Skinny Pete prediction. I called it immediately, and Walt standing behind Conveniently Placed Pillar at Skyler's new house.

 

[Phatmac]

HUELL'S STILL IN THE SAFEHOUSE!!

 

[Maxim726X]

C'mon man. BB is good but it will always have it's creativity shaved by having to be on cable TV. The Wire and Sopranos still sit 1 and 2.

Don't agree. BB didn't have a single down season, and arguably got better with every consecutive season.

Sopranos wish it could say that.

 

[ZQQLANDER]

The song in the beginning and the one he sings is called Felina. Read the lyrics and you'll figure out why it's called that.

thks!

 

[LonelySeal]

Ha i more or less predicted the ending. Walt saves jessie, finds a way to give his family the money and gives jessie the gun to kill him. Jessie didnt shoot cause he saw he was injured. But imo if he wasnt hit by that atray bullet jessie wouldve pulled the trigger

 

[a secret-boss]

Why do you monsters want to kill my Lydia

If Todd can't have her no one will

 

[Niraj]

It wrapped it up really nicely.

Agreed completely.

 

[Aristion]

So, gentlemen. SOTF, the verdict:

1. Breaking Bad
2. The Wire

etc.?

The Wire is on another plane of existence, in Platonic heaven. It is the form of perfection.


Breaking Bad is an earthly representation of goodness, but it is not divine perfection.

 

[Emerson]

Is it possible to recover from Ricin poisoning if it's caught at that point though? I would have played it safe and not told her she was poisoned.

There is no antidote for ricin exposure. Treatment is largely supportive and if she is a few days out from exposure she wouldn't have a great prognosis.

On the other hand, ricin is much less dangerous if eaten than if inhaled. And who knows how large the dose she got even was. But perhaps we're overanalyzing at this point.

 

[Lionel Mandrake]

Todd's ringtone