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[Twig]

why would I? I think you're a little confused, maybe I didn't make myself clear sorry English is my 3rd language. The thing is I got the PC version, this version of the game performs great (so far)... but a couple of friends bought the 360 version (before knowing about the game-breaking lag issues) though one of them has successfully returned the game and got a full refund minutes ago.

Ah, I see. I was confused, and now I am enlightened. I still stand by everything I said. U;

I'd rather have a broken game that gets fixed than a broken game that stays broken. Sometimes developers screw up. The latter is what would have happened before this generation. On consoles, anyway. But if a game has as much potential as Brink, I'm willing to wait for them to fix shit.

Not that it's broken for me, 'cause PC is the only platform worth mentioning, anyway :smugface:, but that's beside the point.

 

[pappakenoo]

Does it matter at all if you chose "Save the ark" or "Escape the ark"? Can i still play with my friends if we chose different paths?

 

[Lince]

I'd rather have a broken game that gets fixed than a broken game that stays broken. Sometimes developers screw up. The latter is what would have happened before this generation. On consoles, anyway. But if a game has as much potential as Brink, I'm willing to wait for them to fix shit.

the problem is that polished games at launch are becoming a thing of the past, I admit my bias towards the Killzone franchise but it's unacceptable that KZ3 shipped with the horrendous map rotation glitch and Guerrilla happily waited 2 months to fix that while releasing new paid DLC, and now Brink...

 

[Raide]

Does it matter at all if you chose "Save the ark" or "Escape the ark"? Can i still play with my friends if we chose different paths?

Save = Security
Escape = Resistance

You will play from both sides if you want to finish it. If you choose one side, your friend will join that side too.

 

[Twig]

Does it matter at all if you chose "Save the ark" or "Escape the ark"? Can i still play with my friends if we chose different paths?

The only thing it affects is the default appearance of your character on the character selection screen. If you pick Save, it'll show your cop setup, and if you pick Escape, it'll show your resistance setup.

You can still customize either one, of course.

the problem is that polished games at launch are becoming a thing of the past, I admit my bias towards the Killzone franchise but it's unacceptable that KZ3 shipped with the horrendous map rotation glitch and Guerrilla happily waited 2 months to fix that while releasing new paid DLC, and now Brink...

I don't even remotely agree with this.

 

[pappakenoo]

Save = Security
Escape = Resistance

You will play from both sides if you want to finish it. If you choose one side, your friend will join that side too.

Thing is, i already have a lvl 7 Security while all my friends are playing Resistance. If i want to play in the same team in mp matches, will i have to make a new char or are teams randomized anyway?

 

[Teknoman]

I need to stop pre-ordering games, damnit.

I've gotten burned way too many times recently. KZ3, Crysis 2, now this.

What was wrong with KZ3?

 

[Lince]

I don't even remotely agree with this.

well that's your pick and I respect it, but honestly lately I'm seeing a lot of mp games launching with issues that shouldn't be there. We're supposedly paying for finished products after all?

 

[Offerizer]

Just had a real fun game on the eu gaf server. Medic/soldier ftw! It's amazing how long you can stay alive as a defending medic.

 

[Concept17]

Thing is, i already have a lvl 7 Security while all my friends are playing Resistance. If i want to play in the same team in mp matches, will i have to make a new char or are teams randomized anyway?

No. You can still play as either side with your character. The game will automatically put you on Security, as that is what you chose, unless the security team as too many players, in which case it will put you on Resistance. You'll also notice on the scoreboard ingame you can switch teams.

On top of that, when you're in customization, you can hit the button on the top right to switch back and forth between Resistance and Security, and customize your one character for both factions.

 

[BoobPhysics101]

A lawsuit should be brought against them. If they are really cutting down on the players I want a refund. Even when the server has only 8 players there is still a good chance the game will lag.

This fucking company better be willing to give refunds if they aren't going to fix the lag problem. I didn't pay to play an 8 player game with 8 maps and no single player campaign. FIX THE LAG ON 360 OR BE PREPARED TO REFUND PEOPLE THEIR MONEY!

I laughed. Couldn't tell if this was serious or not. You forgot the link to your online petition, though.

 

[zlatko]

What was wrong with KZ3?

It isn't Brink.

 

[Lince]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFFxKW4pIb4

Brink TV Day 1 Launch Event Highlights

yeah watched that stream live, unbelievable stuff considering it was their first day with Brink.

 

[Twig]

well that's your pick and I respect it, but honestly lately I'm seeing a lot of mp games launching with issues that shouldn't be there. We're supposedly paying for finished products after all?

Multiplayer games have been launching with issues since the dawn of time. And it's only natural that as they get more and more complicated (and they are), they're going to be prone to more and more issues.

I'm not excusing them, of course. They should still be better than this. But it's fucking hard. Especially when you have publisher overlords breathing down your neck to Get This Shit Out as fast as possible. If you listen to the latest Bethesda podcast (which is about Brink's release), you can almost hear the pain in this guy's voice as he says something to the effect of, "We know there are issues that we just didn't have time to fix."

But my point wasn't that multiplayer games don't have issues - it's that this isn't a new thing. ALL games since the dawn of time have had issues, and the same thing I said above also applies to single-player games.

 

[Raide]

Anyone else get the feeling Brink seems to be build around Clutch Gameplay? Even against the bots, they love doing those rushes at the end to extend the timer.

The BrinkTV stuff shows this over and over. At least its not people getting sniped in their spawn point.

 

[X-Frame]

What was wrong with KZ3?

Nothing inherently wrong with it besides the obvious bugs, but it just wasn't what i expected KZ3 to be. And its all my fault since I was in the closed and open beta and just figured they would tune the game to my liking for release due to all the beta feedback.

Just my preference. GG changed the game too much.

Brink on the other hand seems to have gotten everything right in what I want in a shooter but I can't play it because of lag! Lol.

 

[Spirit of Jazz]

Cutting the default players to 4v4 for most modes (especially campaign) is just unacceptable when the A.I. is as terrible as it is. Really wish there was a way I could get my money back as I wouldn't have bought the game on Friday if I knew this would happen.

 

[Danne-Danger]

Grenade Shooting is actually pretty ridiculous, I just got the soldier rank 4 grenade perks and I feel like such a cheap bastard. It basically makes it so that you don't have to cook your grenades, and they're really easy to hit. If you stumble upon a group of enemies just throw a nade at the nearest person and you're very, very likely to hit the nade, boom. And you can also throw a molotov in there for good measure.

Pretty much done with my build though.. may put a few points into medic now... though I really want those satchel charges... mmm, soldier.

 

[Shoogoo]

No. You can still play as either side with your character. The game will automatically put you on Security, as that is what you chose, unless the security team as too many players, in which case it will put you on Resistance. You'll also notice on the scoreboard ingame you can switch teams.

Can you change your allegiance to a faction at any times? I don't really get this.

 

[Blizzard]

Can you change your allegiance to a faction at any times? I don't really get this.

I think all it does is set your default/preferred team. If you join a game, you will end up on that side by default. It'd be kind of like if TF2 had a per-profile setting that always tried to put you on blue (or red) team if possible.

I think you can make another character and have them be the opposite team by default if you prefer. You just have to exit the game and select a different character before rejoining.

 

[Proven]

Oh and in Container City, as a light, you can jump up to a suspended tunnel container with a hole in the top. Perfect for popping up and keeping enemies from pushing forward.

This video shows it off quite nicely http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC56vhgYXWE

 

[Proven]

Multiplayer games have been launching with issues since the dawn of time. And it's only natural that as they get more and more complicated (and they are), they're going to be prone to more and more issues.

I'm not excusing them, of course. They should still be better than this. But it's fucking hard. Especially when you have publisher overlords breathing down your neck to Get This Shit Out as fast as possible. If you listen to the latest Bethesda podcast (which is about Brink's release), you can almost hear the pain in this guy's voice as he says something to the effect of, "We know there are issues that we just didn't have time to fix."

But my point wasn't that multiplayer games don't have issues - it's that this isn't a new thing. ALL games since the dawn of time have had issues, and the same thing I said above also applies to single-player games.

You should clarify with it being multiplayer online games. Not to say offline games haven't had problems, but nothing as bad or as unintended as we're getting in this gen.

 

[Shoogoo]

I think all it does is set your default/preferred team. If you join a game, you will end up on that side by default. It'd be kind of like if TF2 had a per-profile setting that always tried to put you on blue (or red) team if possible.

I think you can make another character and have them be the opposite team by default if you prefer. You just have to exit the game and select a different character before rejoining.

I see, thanks.

Though, some outfits are for security only right, so you only get these if you chose Security then.

 

[Blizzard]

I see, thanks.

Though, some outfits are for security only right, so you only get these if you chose Security then.

No, I think you unlock outfits for both factions. I can customize both security and resistance outfits on my single character.

 

[carbonbased]

Cutting the default players to 4v4 for most modes (especially campaign) is just unacceptable when the A.I. is as terrible as it is. Really wish there was a way I could get my money back as I wouldn't have bought the game on Friday if I knew this would happen.

fixes are incoming and just stuck in 360 patch approval purgatory. you should really be patient as Splash Damage has proven in the past that they stick with their titles. here is a snippet of yesterday's Steam patch regarding the AI . note i haven't actually seen the new bots in action. master race etc etc

AI Bots:
Removed bot intelligence inhibitors for Freeplay games
Adjusted bot behaviour in Campaign games to make teams more evenly matched
Changed bots’ objective priorities across all game modes
Fixed issue with bot difficulty continually dropping

 

[Genesis Knight]

fixes are incoming and just stuck in 360 patch approval purgatory

Do you know this or are you guessing because the PC version got a patch?

 

[Detox]

Fixes for the console versions are coming they said so on their blog.

We are also releasing an incremental update for PC players via Steam that addresses AI, GPU, and server issues. See the full release notes on Steam. Many of these fixes are being included in the full update for the 360 and PS3 versions.

They are probably going to support this as much as they can including the free DLC to try and compete with the big MP games.

 

[poserdonut]

Got some games in on the gaf eu server. Going to go switch from soldier to medic and respec.

 

[Offerizer]

Great games on the EU gaf server!

Can't understand why the steam server browser wont let me add it so I have to copy and paste in to direct connect each time so it's impossible to check if the server is full or empyty.

 

[syoaran]

Great games on the EU gaf server!

Can't understand why the steam server browser wont let me add it so I have to copy and paste in to direct connect each time so it's impossible to check if the server is full or empyty.

Yeah had some very close ones, and then Brink crashed on me =(. Might try and get in later, using the rifle to take out all you heavy guys ~

 

[zlatko]

Fixes for the console versions are coming they said so on their blog. http://bethblog.com/index.php/2011/05/13/brink-updates-now-live-free-dlc/

They are probably going to support this as much as they can including the free DLC to try and compete with the big MP games.

As they should. This game is a lot of fun when it's working, and you can look at just this thread to see people in the majority who bought it actually like the game----when it's working.

 

[carbonbased]

Do you know this or are you guessing because the PC version got a patch?

for someone who spews a lot of words about this game you sure are uninformed

 

[Detox]

As they should. This game is a lot of fun when it's working, and you can look at just this thread to see people in the majority who bought it actually like the game----when it's working.

I'm keeping a close eye on this thread to see if the community stays on the game as I am planning to buy this as soon as my exams are over. Fingers crossed that at least on PC it is fixed by then and there is still a strong community playing.

 

[Offerizer]

Yeah had some very close ones, and then Brink crashed on me =(. Might try and get in later, using the rifle to take out all you heavy guys ~

I'm not a heavy, just a Medium medic that refuses to die ;P

 

[soultron]

Got in a functional game in today in Freeplay. Thank goodness. It was amazing.

Then back to slideshow + control lock up lag.

Microsoft's cert process blows.

 

[Raide]

Just tried Heavy +Heavy Machinegun and it was great fun. Handy if you spec into all the Soldier stuff inc Scavenge. Does Sense of Perspective work with Scavenge or is it only for Engineers?

 

[soultron]

Just tried Heavy +Heavy Machinegun and it was great fun. Handy if you spec into all the Soldier stuff inc Scavenge. Does Sense of Perspective work with Scavenge or is it only for Engineers?

Think it works when you're planting HE charges too. I seem to remember that when I was completing Be Objective. I could very well be wrong though.

I think it works in any "progress bar" even that doesn't allow you to move. For instance, engineers can't use it when building MG nests, but can use it when repairing the drone/bot because moving allows them to defend themselves.

 

[zlatko]

Got in a functional game in today in Freeplay. Thank goodness. It was amazing.

Then back to slideshow + control lock up lag.

Microsoft's cert process blows.

Has it ever been brought up WHY it's such a long and dumb process to get things up on Live from developers? Do they really think developers are going to make some kind of patch that will bring all of Xbox Live down or some shit?

 

[soultron]

Has it ever been brought up WHY it's such a long and dumb process to get things up on Live from developers? Do they really think developers are going to make some kind of patch that will bring all of Xbox Live down or some shit?

Pretty sure they're worried about it bricking consoles or corrupting HDDs. Double edged sword really. The QA aspect of it is great and I understand why they do it. It just sucks as a consumer sometimes having to wait and wait on things.

If the 360 didn't have such a large install base, I'd say forgo it altogether. Having to wait a week for your patch when other major titles are potentially waiting on people's money can really ruin your game if it has a shoddy launch like this. I mean this in the sense that, in my best guesswork, this launch has negated the week lead Brink had on LA Noire because those who're waiting for a fix are probably just going to skip it altogether. On 360 at least.

It's just very frustrating.

 

[carbonbased]

Just tried Heavy +Heavy Machinegun and it was great fun. Handy if you spec into all the Soldier stuff inc Scavenge. Does Sense of Perspective work with Scavenge or is it only for Engineers?

sense of perspective doesn't affect scavenge, although it's not necessarily a bad thing because you can strafe left and right while waiting for your dude to finish taking his sweet-ass time pillaging supplies.

it lets you see in 3rd person while capturing a command post as any class, so there is some value there outside of engies.

 

[samus4ever]

Well the wait for the patch will be helped by LA Noire for me. I haven't really been having problems, except for a few laggy matches here or their. I just exit out of the lag matches and find a more stable host.

 

[Firebrand]

Great games on the EU gaf server!

Can't understand why the steam server browser wont let me add it so I have to copy and paste in to direct connect each time so it's impossible to check if the server is full or empyty.

Yeah, it won't show up there. I have a few Brink servers that the game has added on its own but the EuroGAF one won't appear for some reason.

And there was something weird going on the server now, the escort guy on stage 2 of Aquarium won't show up so Security can't win.

 

[Genesis Knight]

for someone who spews a lot of words about this game you sure are uninformed

You're pissy because I asked if you'd seen this somewhere or were guessing? Yeah, so I missed that line of the blog update - I just wanted to know if there was serious hope or just speculation. But 'spews'? What's wrong with you?

 

[AnimatorZombie]

These have probably been mentioned, but here's a couple little things I picked up last night that some might not have realized(360 version):

-Aim down the sights and you can lean left and right with the d-pad.
-You can safely walk over the operatives spike grenade if you aim down the sights or crouch walk.
-You can make Fireteams(squads) using the scoreboard by clicking on peoples names.

All of these are in the Dossier but I figured lots of people might not have noticed them. Great game. Anybody else have any cool little tips?

 

[carbonbased]

You're pissy because I asked if you'd seen this somewhere or were guessing? Yeah, so I missed that line of the blog update - I just wanted to know if there was serious hope or just speculation. But 'spews'? What's wrong with you?

you have done an awful lot of bitching about this game (lol at anyone posturing for a refund). if you are having such earth shattering problems with it then do a little google research instead of blindly posting!

this is how microsoft patch cert always goes.

 

[Uno Venova]

Did the 360 patch go live? Did it fix much?

 

[Teknoman]

Whats the benefits of a fireteam again?

 

[Raide]

Did the 360 patch go live? Did it fix much?

I think so. The Day 1 Patch at least. I did not play it before, so I don't really know if it sorted anything. I have noticed some texture pop-in still and a few people said that was a previous issue.

Whats the benefits of a fireteam again?

Works for the games Party Mode, since it does not really have that. Make Fireteam, stick together.

 

[Seventy5]

Since I'm on PS3, I have yet to play with an actual human, but I am still absolutely fucking in love with this game. I've played through both campaigns as an engineer and I'm playing a medic Resistance right now. I've had a couple issues with AIs not getting on objectives fast enough, but besides that there isn't much I can complain about. I really hope the PS3 community gets onboard with this when PSN comes back up, it's a blast!

 

[legbone]

Since I'm on PS3, I have yet to play with an actual human, but I am still absolutely fucking in love with this game. I've played through both campaigns as an engineer and I'm playing a medic Resistance right now. I've had a couple issues with AIs not getting on objectives fast enough, but besides that there isn't much I can complain about. I really hope the PS3 community gets onboard with this when PSN comes back up, it's a blast!

i'm with ya man. ps3 here too. cannot wait for psn to go live so brink can get rolling. it may be just me and you though! lol! just kidding.