I am indeed arguing that favouring Europeans over non-European immigrants with regard to right to reside in the UK is discrimination. Obviously, it is legal because we are currently in the EU, but I do not have to like it. And I don't. All immigrants should have an equal opportunity to come here through a skilled points system.
You do know that such a point based system would discriminate against people who don't have the opportunity to get a good education for example? Any system in place would have some people draw the short end of the stick.
Why is the onus on me to name 3 benefits of leaving the EU? Seriously, I said that I was not really strongly for or against the idea of leaving prior to June 2016. But I accept the result of the referendum, and I sympathise with why people voted to leave.
I hear what you say about what you want from our government, and obviously this is different point of view. Personally, I am okay with the idea of changing the way we do things, and leaving the EU is obviously a way to achieve this. It is no secret that I am not instinctively a multilateralist, but with regard to Brexit result, I think the vote was really for the status quo or change. Leaving represented change, and a majority voted for it. So to put it in another way, a majority of people in this country was obviously not happy with the status quo.
You say there are benefits. I ask for those benefits. Your answer now is: I don't have to give them. I get the vote already happened, I am asking for your opinion here on why leaving should turn out OK and what the benefits are according to you.
This really is the same old argument I see a lot with Leave supporters. Once pressed for actual answers, there are none. And it is baffling to me, since we are talking about the future of millions and millions of people. Telling them to "buckle up" for a future which has benefits you can't even tell is just... strange.
Well I don't want to derail the thread talking about child benefits. It is a policy that two major parties in this country (namely the Conservatives and Labour) wanted to change but were unable to do so because of the EU.
Again, let's say you work in a country and pay taxes there, why should you not enjoy the same benefits as all other people paying the same taxes there? Would you be OK giving up your pension just because you move to another country later in live? Simple question, should be a yes or no answer.
I would understand an argument like adapting it to living standards in the other country. But scrapping it is discriminating against tax paying workers just because they come from somewhere else - something you are against based on your earlier argument about immigration above.
