That's true, I'll be happy to not have to play that trash
This is pretty much what I was getting at. Before there was technically a difference even if there wasn't in practice. Now that there's no difference at all it seems entirely pointless
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Bungie Announces Destiny 2 Iron Banner / Prestige Raid / Seasons Reveal
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That's true, I'll be happy to not have to play that trash
This is pretty much what I was getting at. Before there was technically a difference even if there wasn't in practice. Now that there's no difference at all it seems entirely pointless
qa_engineer
Member
Both the titan and warlock sets have some samurai-like design language.
Strangelove77
Member
That warlock armor looks pretty cool, but not cool enough for me to play Destiny 2's shit pvp.
I remember how LL mattering came about.
Bungie advertised IB as PvP challenge where your power / LL really matters. Then IB came and level 1 character was equal to max lvl and max light character in performance. LL didn't matter, at all. Community demanded for it to actually matter so Bungie made it actually matter.
Sure in long run that is very token thing as wast majority will reach max or near max LL so everyone interested in Trials or IB are within the spread where difference doesn't matter. LL mattering still basically made them end game PvP as low LL couldn't compete.
Regressing on this I just find weird and pointless from Bungie's side. Why not to keep LL / PL mattering and make these "PvP end game"?
On token stuff I 100% agree.
Mikey Jr.
Member
I won't lie, these events feel kinda mundane.
Iron banner is literally just regular PVP, but now you collect tokens for every match.
Prestige Raid just has harder enemies. Actual mechanical changes are "minimal", and nothing actually progresses your character.
Someone here told me prestige raid would up the power level to 350. Apparently not.
I feel safe trading this game in now. Will pick up for expansion.
Iron banner is literally just regular PVP, but now you collect tokens for every match.
Prestige Raid just has harder enemies. Actual mechanical changes are "minimal", and nothing actually progresses your character.
Someone here told me prestige raid would up the power level to 350. Apparently not.
I feel safe trading this game in now. Will pick up for expansion.
WickedLaharl
Member
Is PL not mattering because bungie is hellbent on keeping leveling gimped with weekly milestones?
Fucking hell the endgame is trash.
Fucking hell the endgame is trash.
molnizzle
Member
Yeah... I... really don't understand why they regressed so much.
They should have taken TTK and removed the bullshit. Not remove the rewards.
RecRoulette
Member
This is another Destiny 1 Nightfall scenario lol
PuppetMaster
Member
That armor looks sick!!
ToyMachine228
Member
Having power level matter is what made Iron Banner in Destiny feel fun, different and worth playing. Now it's just a mode that gives unique armor. That's not a good change.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
The hunter armor is the only sleek and streamlined one!
This has to be first hunter armor I've seen from the content in Destiny 2 that I think looks decent. Warlock and Titan look solid as well, but I've seen some pretty good stuff from those classes already.
I hope the Prestige gear is appropriately awesome looking as well. Much prefer pve to pvp personally.
I hope the Prestige gear is appropriately awesome looking as well. Much prefer pve to pvp personally.
No, it's all new, fresh content. There's a blog post and everything!
Yeah, it's basically just 3 new sets of cosmetic gear they're trying to make into something more with fanfare. Cheaper to have someone mash out a blog post than designing new content.
Really hoping they do something cool with seasons though.
Seth Enosh
Member
Whenever I went into IB everyone was at or near the max light level.
Why would someone who was significantly lower than the cap even go into IB to get stomped on? It never made sense as an idea.
This does seem to be shaping up as a pretty disappointing event though. Just nice looking armors. I knew better but had really hoped for 6v6 or a new game mode or something.
Not placebo. Pace different because theres way more people playing in teams than usual. But nothing to do with power level.I mean I played during the entirety of d1 and it always felt like a change of pace from regular crucible to me. Must have been a placebo effect
If they're not even going to pretend it's any different I don't really see the point
Also. IF TRIALS GETS A COMMENTATOR THEN PLS LET SALADÍN DO IT HERE
Aztechnology
Member
Hopefully Season means something more than a vendor with a few pieces of gear for tokens.
Please Bungie seperate PVP and PVE and give us scalable modes.
Please Bungie seperate PVP and PVE and give us scalable modes.
I expected IB to bring something new top the table, yes. Especially given how lacking i view the current PvP content. I figured things were held back or still under construction.
Every queue is the same exact crucible experience with a different metagame attached to it. That wasn't the case in D1.
WhiskerFrisker
Member
So there will never be 6v6 or even a 5v5 huh. I'll miss it.
jasminlovesyoux
Banned
I love the way that armor looks. I hate that there's nothing special about this iron banner. You are forced to play the same thing just for tokens. That's horribly designed. What a waste of an idea.
Orthogonal
Member
I'm gonna be out of town the week of Iron Banner, bummer.
Niceguydan8
Member
I mean they are having allegedly a fully fledged expansion just three months after launch so I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they dropped something meaningfully new before then.
As it stands right now, there's almost nothing special about the event. There's nothing functionally different about it compared to what is already in the game, so making a special event for it just seems silly.
The Last Wizard
Member
Still nothing to really grab my attention. Havent played in about a week. They shouldnt be teasing seasons considering the content is stale now.
I expect something completely new to drop in mid november as by then PC will be out and players will have caught up
InsaneTiger
Member
The last paragraph is great. Bungie, I have met new people in my play through of Destiny 2. It doesnt mean that your game lack any meaningful grind. Datto summed it up perfectly so I cannot add anything. The game is fun, but it does have its hooks in me or my friends.
See you next week for Iron Banana.
See you next week for Iron Banana.
redskinfanva
Neo Member
iron banner weapons was not mentioned i guess there keeping those secret?
Saint Pablo
Member
fucking hell the casual catering doesn't stop
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
Yeah, the hooks all being different looking equipment is pretty disappointing. They could have changed up the raid mechanics (I really hope the reward isn't just an aura) and the same with multiplayer. Doing the same activities for a different set of tokens that give you rewards that just look different isn't going to keep me playing.
Majima Everywhere System
Member
The iron banner, do you only get 7 days to earn the tokens/marks/thingies for gear?
wesleyshark
Banned
The Warlock bond is a freakin wolf head. :O
Won't bother with IB if the token reward is the same as Faction Rally (2 tokens if lose, 5 if win).
If I can't complete Faction Rally sets even with the generous amount of tokens you can get from various activities, what chance did I have if you only get 2 tokens (I lost 80% of Crucible lol) per match.
To be honest, even if IB is PL-enabled, you will only see 280+ players (even in normal quickplay 90% of the time the players I see are 270+PL) and AFAIK there is like 1-2% damage difference between 280PL and 305PL, making it no different than normal Crucible.
If I can't complete Faction Rally sets even with the generous amount of tokens you can get from various activities, what chance did I have if you only get 2 tokens (I lost 80% of Crucible lol) per match.
To be honest, even if IB is PL-enabled, you will only see 280+ players (even in normal quickplay 90% of the time the players I see are 270+PL) and AFAIK there is like 1-2% damage difference between 280PL and 305PL, making it no different than normal Crucible.
Lets look at the bright side regarding no Power Levels for Iron Banner.
You get to curbstomp casual players thanks to you being conditioned to be sweaty for D1 Iron Banner.
You still get to meet your sweaty opponents who are also conditioned for D1 Iron Banner for a challenge.
Seriously you guys are overreacting regarding no power levels. In the end you still gonna vs players who are more or less the same power level as you to the point it's no longer special. How fucking often you ever run into someone who is waaaaaay unleveled for IB in D1?
You get to curbstomp casual players thanks to you being conditioned to be sweaty for D1 Iron Banner.
You still get to meet your sweaty opponents who are also conditioned for D1 Iron Banner for a challenge.
Seriously you guys are overreacting regarding no power levels. In the end you still gonna vs players who are more or less the same power level as you to the point it's no longer special. How fucking often you ever run into someone who is waaaaaay unleveled for IB in D1?