Marathon delayed by Bungie
- Thread starter BennyBlanco
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"Guys if we release it now at as a 400million flop it will only tie Concord, So we have made the tough decision as a team to delay the game another 6 months, increase it to 500 mill and go for the record."
Seriously thou they are saying the right things, More content, darker and proxy chat. At that said ill never buy unless it has a campaign.
Seriously thou they are saying the right things, More content, darker and proxy chat. At that said ill never buy unless it has a campaign.
Goalus
Member
Release date should be Concord's 1-year anniversary.
clarky
Gold Member
Maybe for you.
Watch Arc Raiders blow up later this year. There's a market for a good mainstream extraction shooter if you get it right.
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CityHunter1981
An Absolute Desaster
Great, flush another couple of million dollars down the toilet.
Windom Earle
Member
This guy calling someone an astroturfer is quite something.He thinks I got him permed
clarky
Gold Member
Much more than that for a lengthy delay.
Bernardougf
Member
Its not much different than any closed cult .. resetera had mods banning anything/anyone talking bad about MS because of their mods ties to their (now terminated) ambassador program... dont know about now but once you get things going it usually stays that way.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
chromatic9
Member
Should be enough time to differentiate it.
DarkStream
Member
It's gonna get cancelled, guaranteed.
Bungie, BioWare, Blizzard; how the mighty have fallen.
Bungie, BioWare, Blizzard; how the mighty have fallen.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Got any evidence of this cuz Resetera used to widely lean towards Playstation and Ninty and Xbox was the unloved brother.
They did ban stupid fanboy memes, but that was both Playstation and Xbox memes as they didnt add anything to the discussion and generally derailed threads.
Pretty sure GAF also bans or atleast warns those type of memes.
Bernardougf
Member
This was already discussed here several times with the receips its not something new Im bringing to the table.
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Hypereides
Member
Many legacy studios are husks of their former selves. Doesn't help they're managed by doofuses, like EA's upper management, who think certain gameplay mechanics are "outdated". In a twist of irony, those "out of date" gameplay mechanics are making headwind and gaining a new popularity in games with smaller budgets. The people at the top of these company's management don't "get it" and they very likely don't play games themselves. Its all business, no pleasure.
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Emedan
Member
It's the mid size independent teams that keeps quality going now a days.. and Nintendo I suppose.
Hypereides
Member
I was being facetious. I know what he said, I watched the webcast. It was a rhetorical question. I'm poking a hole at Hulst's assertion. Clearly, he has, or they have, no tight steer on the game's state and direction.
Absolutely to the bolded. Hopefully, the big dogs will wake up to this sooner than later. With the massive amounts of data they're collecting, they should begin to see this pattern emerge.
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Saiyan-Rox
Member
Rebuild it and call it Snickers
clarky
Gold Member
Last thing this game need is more horrible character designs.
Angry_Megalodon
Member
Hideous Snake
Gold Member
Spot on. Exactly how I feel about it after playing the beta + there isn't much going on during runs
Give that fucking adrenaline of fighting people and getting their loot. Not AI
Roman Empire
Member
Sony will send it to die to gain full control of the studio. They kick Peter Parsons out of it as well.
Solarstrike
Member
Dazraell
Member
Joke is on you, he will have more time for shilling
yurinka
Member
Sony published the 2018, 2019, 2020, 2024 games that got the biggest number of GOTY awards these years, plus also released many others that also got awarded or nominated. Plus broke the sales records of PS exclusive games with new titles they published in 2020, 2022, 2023, 2024.
Destiny 2 is a huge success too (top 10 game in PC every year) and their most recent expansion, The Final Shape, got a 90+ MC
Sony got full control of the studio back in July 2022, when they bought 100% of the company (and did put Hermen Hulst and Eric Lempel on its board of directors). It's a fully owned SIE subsidiary that reports to Hermen Hulst, like any other SIE first party studio.
The only difference with the rest is that Sony decided that they would continue publishing in all platforms day one, and using the Bungie publishing label.
It's just a delay because the devs need more time. Same as happened in tons of other games like Zelda BotW, GoWR or GT7. Pretty likely they will get around half a year more to properly finish and tweak what they already were planning to do. Out of the announced things they'll focus on until release, the only change is that they'll implement prox. chat and will tweak it to make solo or duo teams not that difficult.
At this point, a very successful shooter for them is Destiny 2. But with Marathon don't target to that level of success.
But Marathon targets a different and way smaller, more hardcore, survival and PvP focused niche: the extraction shooter. That subgenre had a single big hit: Escape from Tarkov. Before Tarkov, maybe the closest very successful example would be a part of The Division (small portion / game mode of the game), which were the Dark Zones (PvPvE extraction shooter areas).
Other than Tarkov, the extraction shooter is a niche subgenre that still didn't have huge success in consoles or the mainstream market. So different companies -like Bungie- are trying to bring the subgenre to a more mainstream, less hardcore, console friendly bigger market. Being the first one to achieve this means there's no clear reference for the potential market.
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ArtHands
Banned
Game still not out yet. It deserves a chance
StreetsofBeige
Member
They arent cancelling a Bungie game no matter how bad it is or had stolen art issues.
They'll cancel other small studio games with no branding or legacy or hadnt even told gamers what game they were working on. Thats easy to brush under the rug. But cancelling a Bungie game where the studio is already trending down fast since they bought them out 3 years ago would look bad. It would be literally waving the white flag this studio is dead as all they got left aside from Marathon is Destiny 2 DLC. They need something else to give the perception they got something else going on.
IMO they will sell off Bungie and Pete Parsons will live on trying to partner up or get bought out by another giant company. So they need Marathon to do best as possible to show perceived value. Like a sports team shopping around players they'll purposely play them more leading up to the trade deadline hoping the extra face time gets other teams tempted. The better Marathon does, the higher value Sony will get selling them off. Marathon will bomb, but it's better than canning it. If it gets cancelled than any potential buyers wont like the fact they cant even release a game anymore.
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Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
StreetsofBeige
Member
Be warned.
All those improvements are subjective, except for prox chat inclusion which is an on/off kind of thing.
Everything else improved can mean nothing if it's a small tweak nobody notices. You actually cant even trust prox chat, since they may neuter it in some way since they were so balls hard on excluding it stating they didnt want toxic trollers messing up communication.
So take their changes with a grain of salt until proven otherwise. They still didn't even hold up to their end of the bargain when the moustache guy said in the chat 4.5 weeks ago they'd show more next week. Radio silence since then except for this tweet. So as they said you wont see more till the fall which is let's say ballpark 4 months from now. So more radio silence.
ResetEraVetVIP
Member
If Bungie says it's a Marathon game, its a Marathon game…
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Tams
Member
Don't you have a game to try and salvage rather than posting here?
Then again, you have no deadline yet, so...
StreetsofBeige
Member
A Marathon game based on a 30 year old franchise nobody played, or even has anything in common with. Well, at least they saved some money needing to come up with a new game name.
CobraAB
Member
Shame that people will be laid off by that.
semiconscious
Member
agreed. knowing how much time, cash, & genuine talent is involved in these massive miscalculations is disturbing & disappointing. i mean, forget 'ai': i seriously wonder how much current game studio management could simply be replaced by a magic 8-ball. couldn't be much worse, & would certainly be cheaper...
StreetsofBeige
Member
Who knows how long it'll be delayed, but very likely to some time in 2026 given all the changes they stated they are going to make.
Give Pete Parsons and the gang credit for grifting more time. More time means more grifting salaries for months draining the corporate coffers. Any other industry would had cut the cord and moved on. But there's so much money sunk into it already combined with Bungie branding, they got to release it. And if that means more time and budget so be it as they all go down with the ship down to the last guy who desperately clings onto the mast as it goes under.
Give Pete Parsons and the gang credit for grifting more time. More time means more grifting salaries for months draining the corporate coffers. Any other industry would had cut the cord and moved on. But there's so much money sunk into it already combined with Bungie branding, they got to release it. And if that means more time and budget so be it as they all go down with the ship down to the last guy who desperately clings onto the mast as it goes under.
kazuyamishima
Member
Sony to Bungie:
StreetsofBeige
Member
Whatever savings AI can do to companies not only builds the money for savings sake. But cheaper projects means more room for error or perhaps making two games instead of one for the same budget. More games for players and instead all eggs in one basket (which a lot of studios do), now they can have two eggs and only one needs to be good to survive another day.
Problem is gaming is something where a lot of studios with a bucket of cash prefer going balls to the wall maxing out the budget on one do or die project, as opposed to being more modest.
ArtHands
Banned
Sony earn lots of money in PS5 era than all previous PS gens combined and shits. They can afford to sustain the studio
ResetEraVetVIP
Member
It has plenty in common with it.
StreetsofBeige
Member
Yup. Unless a company is losing money, pretty much any big corporation can keep people. But why? If they arent needed, cut the fat and costs.
No different than all of us at home. Surely a lot of us an afford top tier cell phone and internet plans, buy a better car, and it's not going to move the needle setting the washing machine to cold water than hot.
But hey, nothing wrong with being efficient to save a few bucks when in reality saving thousands of dollars over decades might not even make a difference if you already expect a good pot 'o cash at retirement age. But nothing wrong going lean and mean. Why waste cash. Only people who like doing that are people who cant control money, grifting for jobs or a corporation wants people to be always buying their shit going broke.
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Hollywood Hitman
Gold Member
Game is deader than Michael Jackson