"But black people are allowed to say the n-word..."

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Did they really say "nigger" or was it in the sense of "nigga". Either way I would've been offended. It would've been more appropriate to just ask were you half black.
 
I believe the correct retort would be to say that it's racist regardless of the race of the person that uses the term.
 
The Artisan said:
I wasn't really making an argument, just pointing out some facts. Sometimes colored people who aren't black, say the word and sometimes it flies, and sometimes it doesn't. So is it that anyone who is not white can say it, or that anyone who isn't black can't say it?

Why be proud of a racist part of your heritage's history?!
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The historical and social context between my whote friemd amd my indiam friend calling me nigga are so dramtically different it shouldnt even need explanation why one is significantly worse and more threatening than the other. White people cant say the n word period. Other minorities, really its more of a w/e dont give a fuck than anything. The word holds so little power coming out of their mouths that its more benign than malignant.

I didnt invent the rules around the word but if other black pwople see the word differently nothing made me the authority on the word to tell them different. Why do you want to be that authority? Why do you wanna impose on that?
 
Daft Punk said:
I didn't know we had to feel guilty about using a term of endearment. Excuse the fuck out of me.
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I thoughtthat post was supposed to be sarcastic
Gordon Shumway said:
Un-PC setting..😕
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Ticket to being shitty
Sub-Zero at a Starbucks said:
I don't think it's fair that reverse racism like N-word privileges are "allowed" in PC society yet black persones are saying the H-word (
"hipster"
) with a hard R like it doesn't carry any weight.
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lol
 
Fudgepuppy said:
I was sitting with a couple of friends drinking beer, when one girl asks a guy "So you're pretty dark, are you half-nigger or something".
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I read this as "So you're pretty dank". I was surprised no one commented about it and the insanity of the statement.

I need to get off the internet.
 
Since we're sharing anecdotes now, the only time in recent memory someone dropped a hard-R N-bomb around me was when me, my ex and a friend were visiting Atlanta. There was an East Asian family likewise walking in a courtyard just outside the aquarium and one of the adults said to another adult something to the effect of "Wow, it's really [n-word] city here." I didn't say anything, but I mean hey, have fun using hard Rs in Atlanta of all places.
 
NoblesseOblige said:
"Black people should stop using it if they don't want racists to use it."
- some people apparently.

If only black people had the power to stop racists.
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Y'know, just thinking if this actually happened, if somehow we lived in a world where all black people stopped saying it, it would take away that refuge from people who make that claim.

I mean, what could they say to defend themselves then?

To be clear I'm not advocating that this is something that should happen or is a good excuse. Just picturing that world. "But black people say it all the time!" "Uh, no they don't, they all stopped a couple years ago. Sorry hon, you're racist."
 
I had a friend who would say "nigga" sometimes, he was just a joking kind of guy. There weren't many black people in our town.

I never really realized there was such a distinction between saying it with an "er" at the end, but I can kind of see the difference now.
 
Sub-Zero at a Starbucks said:
I don't think it's fair that reverse racism like N-word privileges are "allowed" in PC society yet black persones are saying the H-word (
"hipster"
) with a hard R like it doesn't carry any weight.
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dammit now you have me picturing middle class white twenty-somethings hanging around the local organic juice bar calling each other "my hipsta"
 
I think people are turning against anyone using racial slurs. I ref high school football and we have started throwing flags on any players that uses racial slurs. Most of the time we just give warnings. But player get the hint once we drop a couple flags.

This happen after a fight broke out when a light skin black player said n---- get off me. The other player thought he was white so it started a team fight.
 
I'm curious what black people think: Generally agree non black people shouldn't say it in either form. But was curious, what are your thoughts on singing along to songs? Like not quoting lyrics out of the blue in conversation but the song is playing and a white person wants to sing along. Like during karaoke or something.

edit: I don't have an opinion either way so I was curious if there was any consensus there.
 
I think it's super stupid that back people still use the n-word between each other. That way it's never going to die.
We have a similar stupid name for us former people from Yugoslavia here in Austria. I used to say it casually to my friends when I was younger but stopped doing so a couple of years back because I realized that if I kept saying it, sooner or later some non-Yugoslavian will pick it up and say it at which point I will probably consider it as an insult.

So fuck it, just let this shitty and insulting names die already.
 
UncleSporky said:
Y'know, just thinking if this actually happened, if somehow we lived in a world where all black people stopped saying it, it would take away that refuge from people who make that claim.

I mean, what could they say to defend themselves then?

To be clear I'm not advocating that this is something that should happen or is a good excuse. Just picturing that world. "But black people say it all the time!" "Uh, no they don't, they all stopped a couple years ago. Sorry hon, you're racist."
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"You can't say that!"
"I mean, I don't hear anyone saying they have a problem with how many people use it today!"

A "solution" isn't a clear-cut matter because the racists that are trying to use it are in no way basing their decisions off of empirical real-world evidence to make these claims, even though most of the time they try to file their arguments under ~~*objective, rational discourse*~~.
 
Sub-Zero at a Starbucks said:
Since we're sharing anecdotes now, the only time in recent memory someone dropped a hard-R N-bomb around me was when me, my ex and a friend were visiting Atlanta. There was an East Asian family likewise walking in a courtyard just outside the aquarium and one of the adults said to another adult something to the effect of "Wow, it's really [n-word] city here." I didn't say anything, but I mean hey, have fun using hard Rs in Atlanta of all places.
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I went to school in Bloomington, IL and found out the hard way that my roommates' friends were central Illinois racists when, after a night of very hard partying got a little over the top, one of them goes, "We don't want {Snowy's roommates}' neighbors to think we're some pack of niggers!" and nobody challenged him on it. I was trying to make myself go to sleep, else I would have gone into the other room and confronted him, but plenty of white people definitely still use the word around other white people, for sure. (Same guy later went on about how the "sand monkeys" don't understand this or that when arguing about the Middle East. Charming fellow.)
 
JP_ said:
I'm curious what black people think: Generally agree non black people shouldn't say it in either form. But was curious, what are your thoughts on singing along to songs? Like not quoting lyrics out of the blue in conversation but the song is playing and a white person wants to sing along. Like during karaoke or something.
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I don't mind that as I don't think there's any malicious intent behind it.
 
JP_ said:
I'm curious what black people think: Generally agree non black people shouldn't say it in either form. But was curious, what are your thoughts on singing along to songs? Like not quoting lyrics out of the blue in conversation but the song is playing and a white person wants to sing along. Like during karaoke or something.
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Depends. When the word comes up in the song do you take joy in saying it? Are you really leaning into that one word? If so you're secretly racist.
 
JP_ said:
I'm curious what black people think: Generally agree non black people shouldn't say it in either form. But was curious, what are your thoughts on singing along to songs? Like not quoting lyrics out of the blue in conversation but the song is playing and a white person wants to sing along. Like during karaoke or something.

edit: I don't have an opinion either way so I was curious if there was any consensus there.
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There's no consensus on it, so I guess use your discretion?

I mean I say fuck while singing all the time, but I wouldn't do in front of a kindergarten class.
 
Damn that comment is ignorant as shit. It's even worse that she tried to debate the usage afterwards. Too many things about this conversation annoys me... I don't even know where to end
 
JP_ said:
I'm curious what black people think: Generally agree non black people shouldn't say it in either form. But was curious, what are your thoughts on singing along to songs? Like not quoting lyrics out of the blue in conversation but the song is playing and a white person wants to sing along. Like during karaoke or something.

edit: I don't have an opinion either way so I was curious if there was any consensus there.
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Varies, but speaking from personal experience as a white dude it's generally easiest to just blank out the term as you're singing the same way radio stations may censor songs on the air unless you actually get the OK from whoever you're with. Even then, though, I've always thought the compulsion people have with asking "okay, but can I say it in this context??" has always been kind of shady.
 
Acosta said:
Outside of USA, most people don't know/understand what nigger is or what it means, and I have never heard it. They use "nigga" because they think it´s cool.

I would never say it in any context knowing it can be offensive. I feel is important not to take the feelings of other persons for granted.
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I don't know dude.

I had an Australian friend that used that word around me all the time. I knew him for 14 years and he would come to the U.S. to visit sometimes.

He called (some) black people niggers and he called Arabs sand-niggers (I never heard that word until he said it). He would call Australian aborigines niggers too. I use to call him out on using those disgusting racist words but he didn't care because he thought I was "one of the good ones" and thought it was okay to say around me (I'm black, he's white).

I had known him for so long and was willing to look past it because he was decent person underneath that racist shit. Anyways two years ago I decided to dropped him as a friend because I didn't want to hear that shit anymore.

To my point, the guy was Australian and knew what he was saying so I don't buy that argument whenever it comes up in these threads.
 
TheExorzist said:
I think it's super stupid that back people still use the n-word between each other. That way it's never going to die.
We have a similar stupid name for us former people from Yugoslavia here in Austria. I used to say it casually to my friends when I was younger but stopped doing so a couple of years back because I realized that if I kept saying it, sooner or later some non-Yugoslavian will pick it up and say it at which point I will probably consider it as an insult.

So fuck it, just let this shitty and insulting names die already.
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Precisely. People are quick to point the racist card but yet are doing nothing to help the cause by saying it themselves. It's idiotic.

Stick to calling each other 'brother' or something. You know, a word that has no real racial connotation.
 
JP_ said:
I'm curious what black people think: Generally agree non black people shouldn't say it in either form. But was curious, what are your thoughts on singing along to songs? Like not quoting lyrics out of the blue in conversation but the song is playing and a white person wants to sing along. Like during karaoke or something.

edit: I don't have an opinion either way so I was curious if there was any consensus there.
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I don't think the intent of people singing it in songs is necessarily malicious, but from personal experience it's always made me super uncomfortable even if other black people are okay with it. I personally don't like it, but I know other people who are okay with it
 
The fact that the word is even in her vocabulary tells me that she is a blithering idiot, I have dropped friends for less.
 
JP_ said:
I'm curious what black people think: Generally agree non black people shouldn't say it in either form. But was curious, what are your thoughts on singing along to songs? Like not quoting lyrics out of the blue in conversation but the song is playing and a white person wants to sing along. Like during karaoke or something.

edit: I don't have an opinion either way so I was curious if there was any consensus there.
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I don't use it, and never will. It makes me feel extremely uncomfortable just hearing it, and I won't even say it if comes up as a song lyric.

Funny enough, I've had the pleasure of running into other black people who thought that by me not saying it somehow made me less black.
 
Dee Dah Dave said:
Precisely. People are quick to point the racist card but yet are doing nothing to help the cause by saying it themselves. It's idiotic.

Stick to calling each other 'brother' or something. You know, a word that has no real racial connotation.
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Is this sarcasm?
 
Dee Dah Dave said:
Precisely. People are quick to point the racist card but yet are doing nothing to help the cause by saying it themselves. It's idiotic.

Stick to calling each other 'brother' or something. You know, a word that has no real racial connotation.
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You really love telling black people what they can or can't do, don't you?
It is also super disheartening that you think racism will disappear if black people stop calling each other nigga.
Maybe you are that simple.
 
NoblesseOblige said:
You really so dense or have you never been among peers or social group in which it's fine to use words that you would not use outside that group? For example, here on GAF we like to call each other nerds. But I wouldn't go to work and start calling them nerds. Similarly some black people have adopted a word as a term of endearment to be used within their communities. A member from outside it is not going to be granted the same leeway. It's called context.
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I used to hang with a group of friends in college where I'd hear it regularly. It was just part of the vernacular in college. It's totally different outside of school and in a different state.
 
family_guy said:
Depends. When the word comes up in the song do you take joy in saying it? Are you really leaning into that one word? If so you're secretly racist.
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Ah yeah, I could see how that could play out.

Guess it's always safer to avoid it -- even if innocent, still room for interpretation and could make some people uncomfortable.
 
Dee Dah Dave said:
Precisely. People are quick to point the racist card but yet are doing nothing to help the cause by saying it themselves. It's idiotic.

Stick to calling each other 'brother' or something. You know, a word that has no real racial connotation.
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You should get on the phone with the leader of black people and tell him how you feel right away. Once you've explained your stance to him, he can tell the rest of us and we'll stop saying the word.
 
The Artisan said:
I wasn't really making an argument, just pointing out some facts. Sometimes colored people who aren't black, say the word and sometimes it flies, and sometimes it doesn't. So is it that anyone who is not white can say it, or that anyone who isn't black can't say it?

Why be proud of a racist part of your heritage's history?!

I don't mean you, tbh I can't tell if you're sarcastic or not.
But that's the way to celebrate Southern pride???
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I know, I was poking fun at people who would defend the confederate flag.

;)
 
Slayven said:
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I can almost appreciate the level of honesty in that flag tho
 
Dee Dah Dave said:
Precisely. People are quick to point the racist card but yet are doing nothing to help the cause by saying it themselves. It's idiotic.

Stick to calling each other 'brother' or something. You know, a word that has no real racial connotation.
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"You look pretty dark, are you half-brotha?"

"Last thing we need in this town are more filthy pickaninny hipster-lovers crowding our bars and smoking their art cigarettes!"
 
Gotdatmoney said:
Europeans know what Nigger means. Come the fuck on. You think if I go to Europe people gonna be breaking out the n bomb in front of me? Who has it lost aignificance to, white Europeans? Because if so lol that's fuckimg hilarious jistificatiom for racism.
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I'm not saying we don't know what it means. People nowadays care less about it when it's used every single day and we can hear/see it everywhere.

And don't start with the AH or ER pronunciation difference. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
 
Dee Dah Dave said:
Precisely. People are quick to point the racist card but yet are doing nothing to help the cause by saying it themselves. It's idiotic.

Stick to calling each other 'brother' or something. You know, a word that has no real racial connotation.
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You should go back to your grade school social studies teacher and give him/her a slap, because they didn't teach you shit.
 
Lupercal said:
I'm not saying we don't know what it means. People nowadays care less about it when it's used every single day and we can hear/see it everywhere.

And don't start with the AH or ER pronunciation difference. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
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Wow. I mean, not sure how to even respond to this.
 
Dee Dah Dave said:
Precisely. People are quick to point the racist card but yet are doing nothing to help the cause by saying it themselves. It's idiotic.

Stick to calling each other 'brother' or something. You know, a word that has no real racial connotation.
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Yeah, and what's the deal with black people sagging their pants? They should pull up their pants, wear a belt, turn their hats forward, and listen to The Beatles like respectable members of society.
 
Lupercal said:
I'm not saying we don't know what it means. People nowadays care less about it when it's used every single day and we can hear/see it everywhere.

And don't start with the AH or ER pronunciation difference. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
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lmfao you're kidding yourself

Dee Dah Dave said:
Precisely. People are quick to point the racist card but yet are doing nothing to help the cause by saying it themselves. It's idiotic.

Stick to calling each other 'brother' or something. You know, a word that has no real racial connotation.
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LOL my favorite fucking thing is when white people tell minorities how to act and feel about stuff

get out of here with that shit

Demanufacture said:
Yea I wish someone would explain it to me, I see no difference what so ever.
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well, one word ends with an 'a', and the other ends with an 'er'. it's moreso something you hear, not see :)
 
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