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Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare |OT| House of CODs

Yup I play Ps4 (played in a COD clan of 20) - we were still playing ghosts a few weeks ago.

We are above average (won diamond quite a few times) and all play every cod since COD2.

COD is our primary clan game. We have decided that AW is unplayable mess.

Most of the guys have gone to BF4, decided fighting against connection is too much.

We all have UK optical fibre Ethernet connected port forwarded excellent connections, and AW shits on us from a great height because of this.

We could tell who was host as when game starts he would be 2-3 seconds behind the first spawn, and to have a decent game he would have to hide in a corner whoever was chosen from our party to host....or use full clip for 1 kill...

So we are moving to BF4 now its fixed until hardline...or another multiplayer game comes along that does not screw you for having good internet.

Sledgehammer would have to prove without any doubt their online was excellent with 50 ms ping lobbies and no skippers / laggers for us to consider a return. WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS BULLSHIT.

I have BT home hub 75 mb optical, I did consider looking how to make it a shit connection or play through my mobile - its too much hassle.
You're not alone, but keep in mind bandwidth means very little in online games using P2P, it's your ping that matters. With the listening servers it's your upload that matters.
You know it when you are in the match with them ;) Awesome idea and good going Sledge, bring back the fun in games, instead of yeah gonna kill only him.
Players should dictate how they play, not the developers. Catering to a single group/playstyle removed in part what made CoD what it is - diverse gameplay that allows anyone of any playstyle to have fun and come up with creative ways to play the game.
I'm starting to think the same garbage MP. Once again COD has broken my heart
It is and has been downhill since MW3, IMHO. Let's pray MCC sells insane amounts of copies and Activision takes note and gives fans a remastered version of the most popular games in the series - MW and MW2.
I have a feeling Sledgehammer has nothing to do with servers, hence the bitter answers in the AMA
Given their official response (or lack thereof), it's pretty clear Activision is handling the server situation.
 

Duxxy3

Member
So I'm starting to see why IW may have split up, and why I think Sledgehammer will end up leaving in the future. Activision left Sledgehammer out to dry this week. They made what I believe to be a great game, that will only get better with tweaking and improvements, only to be fucked over by Activision not ponying up dedicated servers. All of Sledgehammer's hard work for three years is down the tubes because the online quality is shit. The game could be the second coming of Christ, but it doesn't matter.

You notice what Respawn has in their very first game after splitting from Activision? Full, top of the line, dedicated servers. None of the P2P crap.
 

RedAssedApe

Banned
lol...got my first two hate messages. dudes calling me trash and a pussy because I died the least on my team. hopefully these grief report things actually result in a ban if only something temporary just to teach people not to be assholes just because they lose.

used to get it a lot on 360 but first time on psn/ps4. :)
 

SMZC

Member
I loved the stupid and it did make the game more fun. I loved the choke points on the levels and the design of MW1 and MW2. AW MP is just crappy to me so far, but I'm trying to like it. There is no AW MP map that is even close to the vanilla COD maps like the Apartments and Overgrown.

The SP for AW is stellar scripted typical COD which I'm fine with.

I love it too when the flow of the matches revolves around choke points, with the ability to get out of said choke points with a stealth class and flank the enemy team, which was quite a viable tactic in COD4, and to a lesser extent in MW2. Now it's just... gone. People flank you alright, but it's not because they work to do it, it's because the frigging game itself spawns them right behind your ass. I hate the clusterfuck that COD has become in that regard, the flow of the matches is just laughable.

A respawn dev actually replied in the active MW2 thread and said at the time IW (the real one, not the current one) had patches ready to go, but the lawsuit stuff ruined it and shortly after Activision told them to focus on MW3 and drop MW2. Such a shame.

Wow. I didn't know this. Well, one more reason to stop giving Activision my money for this franchise.
 

SMZC

Member
So I'm starting to see why IW may have split up, and why I think Sledgehammer will end up leaving in the future. Activision left Sledgehammer out to dry this week. They made what I believe to be a great game, that will only get better with tweaking and improvements, only to be fucked over by Activision not ponying up dedicated servers. All of Sledgehammer's hard work for three years is down the tubes because the online quality is shit. The game could be the second coming of Christ, but it doesn't matter.

You notice what Respawn has in their very first game after splitting from Activision? Full, top of the line, dedicated servers. None of the P2P crap.

To be fair, while a lot of the blame rests indeed on Activisions' part, let's not forget that Sledgehammer made the horrible decision to reuse Treyarch's netcode and hit detection system from BO2. They had perfectly good ones in Ghosts that they could have used, but for some unfathomable reason they decided to go with Treyarch's broken code instead.
 

ILoveBish

Member
My cousins and I played uplink for 3 hours and we had so much fun. I love that game mode. Online sucks 15% of the time for me, but for the most part it's been excellent. I switched to the bar and that weapon is too incredible, cannot believe that's the first gun. I just hit my first prestige and I'll continue again tomorrow.
 

mbmonk

Member
Given their official response (or lack thereof), it's pretty clear Activision is handling the server situation.

I captured the packet traffic from AW while I was playing on my X1 the very first day the game was available. What I could gather from looking at the data was that there were dedicated servers being used for X1 and those servers were operated by MS. This is different than how Ghost was on the X1. Ghost had dedicated servers that were provided by a 3rd party hosting company.

My friend was going to bring over his PS4 yesterday so we could do a similar test, but I wasn't feeling well and we had to postpone it. I am interested to see who, if anyone, is hosting the dedicated servers for PS4.
 

BokehKing

Banned
Is there an Xbox GAF clan? plan on getting the console/game soon.

Interested in this as well
Download app
Sign in with your Microsoft gt
Search for "neogaf"
Apply to clan, I get an alert on my phone and add you
Once in clan there is a nice little clan menu in game.

All I ask is if you invite me to play on Xbox (gt= doc vape) or ps4 (psn=devilsadvocat631) just realize I go negative every match and just do b-lines for objectives
 

BokehKing

Banned
I captured the packet traffic from AW while I was playing on my X1 the very first day the game was available. What I could gather from looking at the data was that there were dedicated servers being used for X1 and those servers were operated by MS. This is different than how Ghost was on the X1. Ghost had dedicated servers that were provided by a 3rd party hosting company.

My friend was going to bring over his PS4 yesterday so we could do a similar test, but I wasn't feeling well and we had to postpone it. I am interested to see who, if anyone, is hosting the dedicated servers for PS4.
I didn't know dedicated servers were supposed to make my gameplay stutter like I was moving 10 fps on x1.... (did not have that problem on ps4, that ran smooth, bullets registered late though)
 
I feel as if after MW and MW2, no multiplayer game has had a majority of the maps included to be good. Am I just blinded by nostalgia or are multiplayer maps just sucking? Pretty much any game from the cod series after those will have maybe 2 good maps and the rest are unnoteworthy or are just bad.
 

mbmonk

Member
I didn't know dedicated servers were supposed to make my gameplay stutter like I was moving 10 fps on x1.... (did not have that problem on ps4, that ran smooth, bullets registered late though)

I have had the exact same problem on X1. I had to hard reboot my console and that would fix it for the most part. I still will have some rare but severe framerate drops during gameplay though even with rebooting.
 

Klyka

Banned
I captured the packet traffic from AW while I was playing on my X1 the very first day the game was available. What I could gather from looking at the data was that there were dedicated servers being used for X1 and those servers were operated by MS. This is different than how Ghost was on the X1. Ghost had dedicated servers that were provided by a 3rd party hosting company.

My friend was going to bring over his PS4 yesterday so we could do a similar test, but I wasn't feeling well and we had to postpone it. I am interested to see who, if anyone, is hosting the dedicated servers for PS4.

Everyone says there are no dedicated servers and now you non chalantly say there are?
 

BokehKing

Banned
I feel as if after MW and MW2, no multiplayer game has had a majority of the maps included to be good. Am I just blinded by nostalgia or are multiplayer maps just sucking? Pretty much any game from the cod series after those will have maybe 2 good maps and the rest are unnoteworthy or are just bad.
Eh.. Going from mw1 skipping w@w and going to mw2 was hard for me, I hated the killstreak porn and I thought the maps were horrible (especially that plane graveyard and airport) game promoted camping with those maps

Now blops1.....that was amazing maps, interactive maps with switches and levers

Jungle... I miss Jungle
 

SlickVic

Member
Just reached
San Francisco
in the campaign and have to say I'm enjoying it quite a bit. Haven't touched a CoD campaign since MW2 but it sure seems like Sledgehammer's done a great job of making the game feel like an action movie, which is essentially exactly what I would want out of a CoD campaign. And the game sure looks pretty on Xbox One (can only imagine how nice it looks maxed out on PC).

Best 54 cents I've ever spent (Redbox 1 day rental with promo code FTW). Probably will pickup the PC version at some point down the road.
 

SMZC

Member
I can't get over how bad snipers are in this game. They have insane sway, the time it takes to both raise the sights and stabilize them by holding your breath is huge, the small maps don't do sniper users any favors, and to top it all off, it's hitmarkers galore whenever you get lucky enough to actually hit someone.

Coming from Ghosts, which had superb snipers, this is such a step backwards. Also disappointed that they didn't use the neat effect from Ghosts while using the optics, in which only the sight itself zoomed in, as opposed to having the whole screen zoom in.
 

d9b

Banned
Just finished campaign. Best COD in years. Graphics are really nice too.

Spent few hrs in Multiplayer last night. No lag, no connection problems, plenty of players. I have to learn maps. Love it!

Playing on PS4 (Europe GAF here)

9/10
 

HelloMeow

Member
The game is very playable....once you throttle or QoS your own connection. It's absolute BS that this is what needs to be done to try and get on an even playing field.

That's not the kind of game I want to play. When I'm doing great it feels like the game is giving me a huge advantage and when I'm not it feels like the game is giving me a huge disadvantage.
 
Is it possible that using an US (or other foreign) account in germany affects the connection in a bad way?
I have the feeling that playing with an inland account get's better latenecies than offshore accounts.
 

Jarrod38

Member
One thing I noticed is there is maybe a 2 to 3 second delay to press B on the Xbox One to back out to your private lobby. Speaking of lobbies why are all of them set to private and cannot open them so your friends can instant join?
 

SmokedMeat

Gamer™
Played a bunch of multi on X1 last night, and noticed nothing but full bars for everyone, every match.

I did get nailed by a few unlucky spawns, but really, with everyone running all over the map, it's not like there's an ideal spot anywhere. The game usually spawns players near their teammates. There's going to be times when an enemy is right in the area. I don't let it get to me, because we go through this every single CoD, and people complain every single CoD.

The only solution would be a safe base area to spawn, but then you'd have spawn camping like Killzone.
 

T.O.P

Banned
Download app
Sign in with your Microsoft gt
Search for "neogaf"
Apply to clan, I get an alert on my phone and add you
Once in clan there is a nice little clan menu in game.

All I ask is if you invite me to play on Xbox (gt= doc vape) or ps4 (psn=devilsadvocat631) just realize I go negative every match and just do b-lines for objectives

Thank you just applied

GT: KI Heisenberg

Played a bunch of multi on X1 last night, and noticed nothing but full bars for everyone, every match.

Same here, probably luck but it's been smooth as hell in about 8 hours of online mp
 
ingame chat just min ago:
"Where are you from?"
"Canada"

Well then, no wonder the game is lagging for me (I'm from EU). :/

I had a feeling non region locked matchmaking was part of the problem. I'm in ohio and had a few brits in my lobby
This game needs search preferences pings are all over the place. I wish I could just choose a local dedicated server and enjoy the game like titanfall.
 
Played a bunch of multi on X1 last night, and noticed nothing but full bars for everyone, every match.

I did get nailed by a few unlucky spawns, but really, with everyone running all over the map, it's not like there's an ideal spot anywhere. The game usually spawns players near their teammates. There's going to be times when an enemy is right in the area. I don't let it get to me, because we go through this every single CoD, and people complain every single CoD.

The only solution would be a safe base area to spawn, but then you'd have spawn camping like Killzone.
Pretty much, the spawns aren't bad. The maneuverability just makes it easy for an enemy to be anywhere on the map in seconds, and sometimes you gt unlucky and spawn near them.
 

MesH

Member
Eh.. Going from mw1 skipping w@w and going to mw2 was hard for me, I hated the killstreak porn and I thought the maps were horrible (especially that plane graveyard and airport) game promoted camping with those maps

Now blops1.....that was amazing maps, interactive maps with switches and levers

Jungle... I miss Jungle

I miss jungle also lol, joined clam and added you as a friend.
 
So, I picked this game up on PC and have been playing a bunch of multiplayer. Team Deathmatch is a horrible experience but Domination is a lot more fun. Still, I've been bouncing back and forth between Counter-Strike: GO and this and I just... I don't think I understand COD at all? It feels like it's trying to make you play strategically by keeping key locations covered, but then people can just kill you randomly from anywhere due to how respawns work. In CS:GO there is significant value to predicting enemy movements, and it just doesn't feel like it's there in this game.

I don't know, maybe this sort of gameplay isn't quite for me but I can't shake the thought of "why would anyone think this is fun?". It's one of the most frustrating multiplayer experiences I've had, and as someone who doesn't give a single crap about unlocks and filling bars, being in it for pure gameplay kind of doesn't seem very fun to me.

I'd love to play it more arcade style with the new movement mechanics (which is what caused me to check this game out in the first place) but being oneshot by hitscan weapons no matter how you move puts a complete damper on things. Every time I die it feels like I could never have predicted it, so I just end up camping the safest location I can find and waiting for some random dude to run by and kill him because I'm prone and he thinks I'm a corpse. I'm running all the perks that make me undetectable, so it works decently well but it's not fun at all. I don't know, can anyone tell me if I'm missing something here and fill me in on stuff I should try in order to remedy these concerns?
 

Daffy Duck

Member
Fuck this game, just tried hardpoint and went 1-17....how is that even possible? I couldn't kill anything.....I was a constant red bar....why? Why on a 55mb fibre connection am I on a red bar?

That's the very worst I have experienced in this game I quit in the end I couldn't stomach it any more.

I fucking raging right now.
 
Fuck this game, just tried hardpoint and went 1-17....how is that even possible? I couldn't kill anything.....I was a constant red bar....why? Why on a 55mb fibre connection am I on a red bar?

That's the very worst I have experienced in this game I quit in the end I couldn't stomach it any more.

i haven't experienced anything like that. Also, hardpoint is a pretty hard game type. You'll die a lot.
 

BrunoM

Member
I feel like the game has so much potential best online feel sense cod4 blops1/2 but they need to do something about the damn lag and hit detection

I can't keep actually using strategy flanking people get so many hits having random player still turning to me and kill me it gets me mad fuk
 

Daffy Duck

Member
I know how to play hardpoint, played it loads in black ops 2, I also know I'll die a lot but that's taking the piss, I couldn't kill anyone!

Just looked and the majority of players in the lobby were Spanish....
 

Cavalier

Banned
I have had the exact same problem on X1. I had to hard reboot my console and that would fix it for the most part. I still will have some rare but severe framerate drops during gameplay though even with rebooting.

No problem here. The only time I saw any framerate drop is when my X1 locked the framerate to 30fps for some odd reason when I resumed from sleep mode. I just had to restart the game. Only had that happen once since day zero.
 

BrunoM

Member
This game sucks because I can't quickscope. It has to be lag.
I see quick scooping online and its so damn stupid something like that is even in the game

It's a broken mechanic players exploid relying on COD Huge aim assist to get kills by making use of the damn zoom button and firing while the game auto aims to the player for that fast second

People that do it so much claim to have skill to do it and don't even realize it's a huge broken part of the game that they keep exploiting

Have no problems being kill by snipers even if happen to be hit by hip fire damn but quickscoping is just play stupid
 
So I just finished the campaign but didn't get the trophies for completion. Went to mission select and it looks like it stopped recording my completed missions about halfway through the game. :/
At least it didn't wipe all progress like BF4, I guess...
 
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