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Call of Duty: Black Ops II |OT| Black to the Future
- Thread starter Radec
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I have no idea. I thought they learned from BO.
There's a balance to be struck between 'I can't hear shit' and 'I'm using this perk to echolocate you like a fucking bat', and that balance is refined with the use of crouching to muffle footsteps and different surface noises.
That's a huge part of map design, and one they seem to have completely ignored. It was used to great effect in CoD4 and particularly MW2 (oh listen, a fool sprinting on metal!)
Treyarch's war on camping has certainly been successful, and I'm not sure I like the game quite as much as a result. It's the balance between all styles of play that makes cod interesting, tilting it too far in any direction makes for boredom (excessively campy) or frustrating (excessively run and... gunny?)
I feel the game is striking a decent balance right now. Excessive camping in dark corners used to really bother me in previous cods (can't speak for mw3, didn't really bother with it). There's a lot of bum rushing now and rounds tend to get messy, but overall I like it better. Completely subjective obviously.
That said, they could have killed camping without killing footsteps. Canceling out the audio dimension of the cat and mouse game is unfortunate and probably wasn't necessary.
Thanks for the tip, will look into it.
PS3. I can hear teammate footsteps but not the enemy's.
360 here, I tried setting the audio mix to the loudest 'overdrive' setting, lowering music and speech, and turning up the volume on my amp and...
I still can't hear shit. I've literally had people in the room with me, missing knife swings while I was moving around looking out a window or whatever, and never heard them until I was dead.
I still can't hear shit. I've literally had people in the room with me, missing knife swings while I was moving around looking out a window or whatever, and never heard them until I was dead.
Mister Wilhelm
Member
This is all true.
I'm playing on 360 with an Astro A50 with all that surround jazz enabled, the footsteps are really hard to hear. Well, except your own.
On another note, the "Best" connection preference really is working wonders for me. 10+ games in a row and I've not been killed by some bullshit, killed before I even got around a corner or killed and rubber banded back after moving behind a wall. Even went 12 - 1 in a S&D just now. It's excellent.
Granted, could be a very, very lucky coincident that it puts me in good matches and has nothing to do with the setting.
Aren't Treyarch CODs always like that? Blops 2 is the first Treyarch COD I bought since WaW and the missing footsteps sfx is jarring.
6PM GMT is what? 1PM EST?
Also, anyone have Astro A40's? The new 2013 model? I have been debating about getting a pair for about 2 years now and i hear the 2013 model is a big improvement but my concern is if it's actually worth $250, i have a pair of Tritton 720s and i am wondering if $250 is a justifiable price to upgrade (for gaming/blu-rays). Take into account $250 is a lot of money to me.
lol yeah that's happened. Also had a cple of cases of "where the fuck did that come from??" only to see the guy dogging me and furiously spraying for several seconds on kill cam. Didn't hear steps, didn't hear (suppressed) shots, didn't hear impacts...
Hasn't changed much for me. Actually started doing worse than before a little (maybe the product of higher-ed expectations?).
Yeah, see above. I sometimes don't hear the guy spraying me with a suppressed SMG from 5 feet away. Maybe footsteps weren't intentional and they just goofed the entire mix.
It's actually really fucking annoying, because that sound stuff is contributing to the feeling of 'these maps are too small, these spawns are bullshit, these smgs are too strong', because you can't fucking hear people sprinting up behind you.
I don't mind dying to getting flanked, I don't mind dying to someone sneaking up on me, I do mind dying to someone who was running around like an idiot and only spotted me at the last second when I should have easily heard them coming.
I don't mind dying to getting flanked, I don't mind dying to someone sneaking up on me, I do mind dying to someone who was running around like an idiot and only spotted me at the last second when I should have easily heard them coming.
LabouredSubterfuge
Member
Anyone else on PC find the sound mix is really muffled? I have to turn my amp up really high just to get it at a reasonable volume. Not even talking about footsteps which I think they've really fucked up on pretty badly.
I have the A50s which are ... Basically the same. I've had a few of these high-end game headsets, like Turtle Beach, some Steelseries etc. and they were all rubbish. Tinny sounds, too much treble, flat bass response and simply not worth the money. Coming from an HD650 and external DAC on my PC I do have some high expectations but the A50s are superb. Bass is extremely meaty, sound is really crisp and the surround effect is solid. I'm really surprised by them, plus they are very comfortable. Price is still a tad steep in my opinion but I don't regret it for a second.
Only problem is, none in the current range are working with a wired 360 controller and voice. Your voice will skip and you can't hear anybody. That's down to a resistor in the headset, they are sending out new models and they gladly take the old ones back to fix it. I've RMAd mine with the store I bought it from, he'll send me some from the new range and then I'll send my current one back.
Then again, if you aren't using a wired controller then there's no need to worry
However you won't find much use for any of the surround sound mah-jazz in this game, because of the poor sound implementation and muffling.
iNvid02
Member
i have some old a40s and they've been great, but im having trouble hearing footsteps in blops 2 - first time its ever happened.
a40s are no match for a soundcard and some nice cans but they are one of the best options available for playing on console
time until double xp weekend starts
I notice that the direction of sounds is also kind of fucked up
I'll hear shots behind me, turn around and nothing is there. I also hear gunshots from out of bounds when i'm on the edge of the map
Anyone else getting this?
Absolutely.
On my speakers it was awful, much better with headphones but yes, really quiet it seems (and all set to max).
I also miss footsteps, I was like Rutger Hauer in Blind Fury back in COD4...
crimzonflame
Member
Is there a thread with that lists gaffers' GT/PSN? I want to play with GAF.
YES! I knew I wasn't just imagining that I shoot people first. I turn this shit on and first game I go 30 kills.. FINALLY.. I've been hovering around 15-18 before and I swear 8/10 times I get killed in confrontations I should have gotten a kill.
Halcyon
Member
So I'm up to level 38 or so and I think I've found my way.
I LOVE the m27. I've been running m27 with three attachments(actually 4) the optic sight has an acog and reflex combined,quick mag, and the forward grip.
I dropped my secondary wep and I have a bouncing Bettie and a shock charge.
Perks are lightweight cold blooded and dexterity.
I think this is a really versatile setup for how I play and the m27 has an awesome fire rate and damage. I can routinely beat smgs if I anticipate corner confrontations.
I like blops 2. There are definitely matches where the lag makes it almost unplayable but I usually just back out and try a different lobby.
Oh and zombies is like some sort of weird Freddy Kruger nightmare. Its pretty awesome.
Add me on psn: halcyontb12
I LOVE the m27. I've been running m27 with three attachments(actually 4) the optic sight has an acog and reflex combined,quick mag, and the forward grip.
I dropped my secondary wep and I have a bouncing Bettie and a shock charge.
Perks are lightweight cold blooded and dexterity.
I think this is a really versatile setup for how I play and the m27 has an awesome fire rate and damage. I can routinely beat smgs if I anticipate corner confrontations.
I like blops 2. There are definitely matches where the lag makes it almost unplayable but I usually just back out and try a different lobby.
Oh and zombies is like some sort of weird Freddy Kruger nightmare. Its pretty awesome.
Add me on psn: halcyontb12
Stephen_drewz
Member
Lol FFS. Steam decided not to auto download the 3gb patch, no wonder I couldn't find any games.
Nabs
Member
There's no patch. Something is wrong with your download.
DodgyGeezerFella
Member
Am i really playing on dedicated servers on the PC ? It sure doesn't feel like it :/
yup seems to be common for everyone.
I did get a 3GB "patch/update" for MP after the game went live, despite pre-loading
and the lack of footsteps is probably the biggest issue I have with this game right now ... that and the fact that a pistol is more useful than pretty much every other gun that ain't an SMG/AR in Hardcore TDM
Stephen_drewz
Member
Hmm weird. Maybe its re-downloading multiplayer for some reason : / Oh well, I will let it continue.
fluffydelusions
Member
I've noticed some times the sound gets much higher at times for some weird reason and then back down.
I like it so far, but less so for the story and more so that I can choose my loadouts.
fluffydelusions
Member
I enjoyed it.
Today is the day I finally get my copy, just in time for Double XP I hope(migt have to wait 3 more hours). I'm worried however, if I can play this since I decided to get this on the PS3 despite having a 360.
Already know that I should set the Search preferences to "Best" so let's hope it don't freeze my PS3.
Also, anyone who ordered from UK but it's not from UK manage to use the Code on the PS Store for Nuketown 2025? I heard some reports that people are not beeing able to redeem the code since it might not work outside the UK (reports mostly from the Hardened Edition, not so much for the Standard game).
Anyone?
Already know that I should set the Search preferences to "Best" so let's hope it don't freeze my PS3.
Also, anyone who ordered from UK but it's not from UK manage to use the Code on the PS Store for Nuketown 2025? I heard some reports that people are not beeing able to redeem the code since it might not work outside the UK (reports mostly from the Hardened Edition, not so much for the Standard game).
Anyone?
By the way, the Chicom CQB is the most beastly weapon I have ever used in an FPS. Slap a laser sight on there and another attachment of choice and you have the most batshit weapon I have ever used. If you got a steady aim and know how to quick-trigger fire that shit ... My god. I barely even bother ADS with that thing, even at bigger ranges. 2-3 bursts and anything seem to go down. ( HC )
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Polarizing, it seems. Kinda a running theme with this game. "The story sucks!" "The story is amazing!" "Strike Force is great!" "Treyarch needs to fire people for Strike Force!"
Kinky John
Member
DodgyGeezerFella
Member
I find i turn the volume right up to hear everything normally.... then someone speaks on the mic and blows my ears off :/
Unlocks at what level?
Trojita
Rapid Response Threadmaker
Like I mentioned before, the sound in this game is messed up. It was the same with Black Ops.
Barely there footstep sounds, if they are there at all.
Grenade sounds are fucking loud as hell. Maybe that is more realistic, but jeez they are loud as hell.
Gun sounds sound like shit.
Sound awareness sucks. I find it hard to pinpoint exactly where a gun was shot from.
Barely there footstep sounds, if they are there at all.
Grenade sounds are fucking loud as hell. Maybe that is more realistic, but jeez they are loud as hell.
Gun sounds sound like shit.
Sound awareness sucks. I find it hard to pinpoint exactly where a gun was shot from.
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It's ugly as sin though;
It's burst by the way.
Disagree with that, Blops 2 has some of the best gun sounds of any CoD so far. Ultra meaty, punchy and loud.
Riposte
Member
I thought I was done with the game, but I guess I ought to give a fair shake and try out the search preferences. If that really makes a big deal, then lol, how silly of them to make it so missable.
EDIT: What are the best guns?
Also can someone explain to me how attachments boosts stats? I'm pretty sure in the past FMJ didn't actually boost damage
EDIT: What are the best guns?
Also can someone explain to me how attachments boosts stats? I'm pretty sure in the past FMJ didn't actually boost damage
Trojita
Rapid Response Threadmaker
Those and the sentry guns seem overpowered. You can't knife them anymore and grenades seem to have no affect.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
They die from one EMP Grenade burst. Black Hat PDAs also work.
They don't boost stats per say, the stat increase you see is mostly visual. Like, adding FMJ will allow for greater penetration through material, Quickdraw for faster aiming etc. it might increase a stat but it doesn't actually 'increase' so to speak. Like the grip is a recoil reduction so it does increase accuracy but if based on a single shot it should be identical in accuracy, only when you start firing more consecutive rounds it comes into play.
BruiserBear
Banned
We're kidding ourselves if we think that campers aren't going to just unlock ghost with their first prestige and have it forever more. Hiding it at level 55 kinda becomes meaningless when you think about it.
There does seem to be something strange going on with this game's netcode. It's almost as if I get online, and I'm either great or I'm bad. There is no middle ground. Kinda makes me think something funny is going on behind the scenes.
For example, I got on from 7-9pm yesterday and was doing work. Probably a 2 k/d.
Then I got on from 10-midnight, and had a k/d of about .8 for those 2 hours.
How can someone be really good, and then really bad like that? I wasn't playing differently, and I was using the same weapons/perks. Very frustrating. :/
There does seem to be something strange going on with this game's netcode. It's almost as if I get online, and I'm either great or I'm bad. There is no middle ground. Kinda makes me think something funny is going on behind the scenes.
For example, I got on from 7-9pm yesterday and was doing work. Probably a 2 k/d.
Then I got on from 10-midnight, and had a k/d of about .8 for those 2 hours.
How can someone be really good, and then really bad like that? I wasn't playing differently, and I was using the same weapons/perks. Very frustrating. :/