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Call of Duty: Black Ops II |OT| Black to the Future

Xux

Member
I like how he posts this : @DavidVonderhaar: @etilt44 Helpful video, but the Theater comparison won't help me me. No latency and likely not your view of the world at the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvUGKyWrepA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Yet in the video the guy shows live and theater side by side showing the difference. I think they just refuse to believe their game isn't as great as they think it is.
I think he just means that Theater doesn't really mean much of anything and that it's not "what the host sees" or whatever people might think it is.

Or not. I don't think he's being that dismissive and the response to the recorded clips is sort of encouraging.
 

Nome

Member
I like how he posts this : @DavidVonderhaar: @etilt44 Helpful video, but the Theater comparison won't help me me. No latency and likely not your view of the world at the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvUGKyWrepA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Yet in the video the guy shows live and theater side by side showing the difference. I think they just refuse to believe their game isn't as great as they think it is.

WOW. Is this the typical experience for console players? I've never seen anything remotely close to it on the PC. The worst I've had is being knifed by the same guy three times in a row while I attempted to shotgun his face (I heard the sound and saw the animation right before dying), but in all three killcams I never fired a shot.
 

Sojgat

Member
I'm having very few troubles except for when I'm the host. Went 32-6 on Turbine, then the very next game (same map) after becoming host I was 4-16. I couldn't win a single gunfight, ridiculously bad. I had to quit, just like the host before me had done.
 

Magik

Member
I like how he posts this : @DavidVonderhaar: @etilt44 Helpful video, but the Theater comparison won't help me me. No latency and likely not your view of the world at the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvUGKyWrepA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Yet in the video the guy shows live and theater side by side showing the difference. I think they just refuse to believe their game isn't as great as they think it is.

That video pretty much embodies the problem with BLOPS 2. Something is seriously wrong when even the most simple kills can't even be achieved.
 

Wingfan19

Unconfirmed Member
Anyone know why my Call of Duty Elite is blank on their website? It keeps saying I have to play an MP game, but I've played 8 hours already. I have the app downloaded on my PS3 and even went through the game menus to connect to it (and yes, I can see my stats in the app). The website has my BLOPS 1 and MW3 stats, but not BLOPS 2.
 
I like how he posts this : @DavidVonderhaar: @etilt44 Helpful video, but the Theater comparison won't help me me. No latency and likely not your view of the world at the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvUG...e_gdata_player

Yet in the video the guy shows live and theater side by side showing the difference. I think they just refuse to believe their game isn't as great as they think it is.
I'm not exactly sure what I'm supposed to be seeing, both live and theater look similar to me, and in the couple of encounters where he lost, his reticule wasn't on the enemy.
 

PSYGN

Member
I don't think that's a very good video. He misses one of his targets down the stairs, and it isn't that bad.

Bad is the shit I run into. Shooting someone stationary in the back three times only steps away and to have it only count one of the shots and he turns around and kills me in 1 hit. Seriously, if you're feeling the lag many of us feel you literally die in 1 hit it feels. No hurt phases, just straight up instantly falling to the ground as bullets whiz by you. It reminds me of when I played MW3 on my Verizon 3G connection. Insta deaths. But it's happening in this game and my ping is 35 to 45ms and MW3 was perfectly fine. I don't know what's going on in this game. It's nutty.
 

Jack_AG

Banned
Anyone know why my Call of Duty Elite is blank on their website? It keeps saying I have to play an MP game, but I've played 8 hours already. I have the app downloaded on my PS3 and even went through the game menus to connect to it (and yes, I can see my stats in the app). The website has my BLOPS 1 and MW3 stats, but not BLOPS 2.
It only shows about 3/4 of my matches. Many of them are a score of 0/0 despite the game finishing normally.

As per the tweet above... what a twat. Confirmed never buying another Treyarch game no matter what it is.
 

Sub_Level

wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Argh, that feel when you were a second away from Black Hatting a Care Package that turned out to be a Swarm...and it was on freakin Turbine too.

We still won the match but still...
 

alba

Little is the new Big
Here's my custom emblem...
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Why didn't I think of pixel art? Off to make my own iron man one, woo!
 
I just surprised the crap out of myself and had two 5.0 KDR game on back to back hijacked games useing a non select fire FAL. Loving the knifers, easy kills. But it is quite fun to knife with 6 perks :3
 

Sojgat

Member
From what I read you get a DISadvantage when youre the host?

You do, and it's severity seems to vary. Sometimes It's not that bad, other times it's so frustrating that quitting becomes the only option. The match becomes like a descending ladder of migrating hosts until there's only 3-4 people left playing. It's stupid.
 

kamspy

Member
Well, BLOPS 2 is an awesome game.

I'm one of the few people who like MW3, and probably one of the even fewer still play COD equally for the SP and MP.

I mean, I keep expecting the series to fall off just like everyone else, but it just has yet to happen.

I think I'm gonna try to break the cycle by expecting MW4 to be great. Considering how much of Raven supposedly got folded into Infinity Ward, it could.
 

Jack_AG

Banned
You do, and it's severity seems to vary. Sometimes It's not that bad, other times it's so frustrating that quitting becomes the only option. The match becomes like a descending ladder of migrating hosts until there's only 3-4 people left playing. It's stupid.
I'm host about 75% of the time and other games are no better for me since the comp i'm guessing is based off of lowest ping.

I don't think any math in this game works properly:
"Match starting..."(6/12)
Or...
"Waiting for 1 more to balance teams..." (11/12) - so far so good
"Need more players to balance teams..."(12/12) - fml

Yep. Treyarch. Mark of quality.
 

guek

Banned
So keep in mind, I haven't played a CoD since CoD4 but...is it just me or does knifing absolutely suck in this game?
 
Came up with this today, it's a pretty good "anti-bullshit" class, try it if you're having difficulties. Not going to fix lag comp, of course, but....

Ghost (Prevents bullshit UAV kills)
Cold Blooded (Prevents bullshit target finder kills)
Engineer (Prevents bullshit shock/bettie kills)

FAL OSW w/Target Finder, Grip, Select Fire (via Primary Gunfighter)

One bettie, one shock.
 

DTKT

Member
So keep in mind, I haven't played a CoD since CoD4 but...is it just me or does knifing absolutely suck in this game?

Yeah, it's been somewhat "nerfed" from MW2. The lunge doesn't happen 90% of the time and it's easy to dodge. You are better off shooting.
 

Jack_AG

Banned
Came up with this today, it's a pretty good "anti-bullshit" class, try it if you're having difficulties. Not going to fix lag comp, of course, but....

Ghost (Prevents bullshit UAV kills)
Cold Blooded (Prevents bullshit target finder kills)
Engineer (Prevents bullshit shock/bettie kills)

FAL OSW w/Target Finder, Grip, Select Fire (via Primary Gunfighter)

One bettie, one shock.
It will be hard for me to take Cold Blooded without scavenger. Might replace Primary Gunfighter with Second perk 2 and roll 27 w/forward grip and fmj. Will try.
 

Milly79

Member
Took my Xbox out of the DMZ as it was giving me Moderate-Strict and RARELY Open NAT. Now it's always open. Seems ass backwards, but I guess that goes along with the Host situation atm.
 
They added pointstreaks. Black Ops 2 just took that same concept and polished it. The idea with rewarding objective play originated with MW3.
They also added several new game modes, such as infected, drop zone, and All or Nothing, which were all huge successes.
Support and Specialist were brand new in Modern Warfare 3.
Proficiences were added as well.
They created the new demolition spawn formula too.
They added weapon levels to level up your gun and unlock everything. Now Black Ops 2 has that same exact system.
Faceoff was brand new with Modern Warfare 3.

The only step back I've seen/heard is that the scoreboard was different and didn't include objective play.


Modern Warfare 2 added the whole new killstreak system, instead of having the standard 3-5-7.
Modern Warfare 2 also added demolition for the first time.
Pro Perks were new in MW2 as well as the riot shield.
Bouns points for payback, buzzkill, afterlife etc.. all originated in MW2.
Black Ops 1 is just a polished version of MW2.

I'm sure there is more stuff, but I can't think of all of it right now.

I have to strongly disagree on that one.
 

PandaL

Member
Lead MP Programmer says they're hard at work fixing the matchmaking issues:

https://twitter.com/AlexConserva/status/271091898242957312

Nice.


Took my Xbox out of the DMZ as it was giving me Moderate-Strict and RARELY Open NAT. Now it's always open. Seems ass backwards, but I guess that goes along with the Host situation atm.

This game is bad. I get Open NAT with all other games and this game shows moderate/strict all the time.

I'm using a static ip for PS3, DMZ, QOS etc etc. *rage*
 

Sub_Level

wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Well, BLOPS 2 is an awesome game.

I'm one of the few people who like MW3, and probably one of the even fewer still play COD equally for the SP and MP.

I mean, I keep expecting the series to fall off just like everyone else, but it just has yet to happen.

I think I'm gonna try to break the cycle by expecting MW4 to be great. Considering how much of Raven supposedly got folded into Infinity Ward, it could.

I think the wildcard is next-gen consoles. Will Activision make MW4 a 720/PC game only? Can they develop a next-gen game in time?

Came up with this today, it's a pretty good "anti-bullshit" class, try it if you're having difficulties. Not going to fix lag comp, of course, but....

Ghost (Prevents bullshit UAV kills)
Cold Blooded (Prevents bullshit target finder kills)
Engineer (Prevents bullshit shock/bettie kills)

FAL OSW w/Target Finder, Grip, Select Fire (via Primary Gunfighter)

One bettie, one shock.

If you're not combining Hardline with Engineer you're missing out. Ghost isn't really necessary if you have a Stinger instead, I swear it takes 5 seconds to shoot down a UAV and you'll get 90+ points for shooting them down with Hardline. The reason it's good with Engineer is because you get 60+ points a piece for shooting enemy betties, claymores, and shock charges, and you see them quite frequently in this game even in the faster-paced game modes (Maximillion did a youtube video on this recently actually). Get rid of the Primary Gunfighter and Select Fire, you don't need them.

And I say get rid of Cold Blooded, since you have a betty you can use Scavenger instead. Great freakin' combo. Finish off your class with another Shock Charge, you can cover a lot of flank points with those babies. If you want to get really fancy, drop the two shock charges altogether and grab Danger Close plus a second Betty. 2 Betties + Scavenger = awwww yeeeaaaa
 

DR3AM

Dreams of a world where inflated review scores save studios
picked up the game at frys today and got free nuke town. yahooooo, no pre order
 

feel

Member
This is probably dumb, but how the heck do you do the dolphin dive? I've tried every possible combination of sprinting/crouching/jumping but my guy always goes down to the floor slowly. I'm on PC KB&M if it makes a difference.
 
I hate playing with French people... damn it French Canada.

None of them are any good at objective games... and they will regularly call you a bitch if you kill 'em.
 

Atruvius

Member
This is probably dumb, but how the heck do you do the dolphin dive? I've tried every possible combination of sprinting/crouching/jumping but my guy always goes down to the floor slowly. I'm on PC KB&M if it makes a difference.

Sprint and press change stance button, C if you haven't changed it.

Knife lunges from much farther away if it's the only weapon you're carrying. I don't mind it at all, hated knife runners in MW2.
 

Acinixys

Member
This is probably dumb, but how the heck do you do the dolphin dive? I've tried every possible combination of sprinting/crouching/jumping but my guy always goes down to the floor slowly. I'm on PC KB&M if it makes a difference.

Gotta go fast man!

Pistols > Assault Rifles?

Pistols are so OP ATM. That machine pistol you get as the last unlock is RETARDEDLY OVERPOWERED! Ive been killed so many times by it at over 5m. It has 0% spread, so its a laser of death, especially with the long barrel.

I don't see that I can get the thermal scope... am I missing it? I'm a surgeon with it in MW3. I'll need it here.

Its gone. Theres now the Target Finder, which put red boxes around all enemies you can see, and the MM Scanner, which lets you see through walls up to 20? 25? meters.
 
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