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Call of Duty: Modern Warfare |OT| Zero Dank Thirty

nowhat

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So I bought this game off PSN yesterday because it was on sale and I wanted to check out the campaign. This is my experience trying to get to play the campaign.

As is typical these days, after completing my purchase I'm presented not with a single item to download, but several. Instead of trying to figure out which exact parts of the puzzle I need, I just look for the main game package. Surely that will tell me what to download, and besides, according to PSN it's only 9.37GB, should be a quick download. It was one of those days (i.e. the ones that end with a "y") that PSN downloads worked at 50% max of my top download speed, but it's not like I'm in a hurry.

Except, the download starts and I see that it's 105GB. Whoops. I'm guessing the size listed at PSN (I've noticed this with many other games too) is like at the patch level the game was initially submitted to the store with and it's never updated afterwards. But wait, luckily there's that PS4 feature that large enough games must download something to play at first while downloading the rest in the background - surely that'll mean the first chapter or few from the campaign? Alas, this was not to be the case, it was just the 2 vs 2 multiplayer mode either with bots or LAN. Also, in case you haven't noticed, PS4 automatically throttles downloads whenever a game with even potential network features is running, so playing with bots would make the already slow download even slower. Time to close the game for now.

Several hours later (as stated, PSN was running even slower than usual) the 105GB download is ready. Surely now I get to play the campaign, right? I launch the game, and... I need an Activision id? I just wanted to play the offline campaign, but ok... expect registering via the game itself is an exercise in futility, it just hangs for a couple of minutes and then returns an error code. So I create an account on a computer, link it to my PSN account and launch the game again: immediately, the game recognizes the new account and logs me in automatically. Now this is looking good!

I'm able to see the main menu, and there's... Warzone. That's the only thing that's available to play, the rest are optional downloads. By now you may be thinking "there are two packages you should have downloaded, campaign packs 1 and 2, you mental midget!" - yes, that much is true, but in my defense, I thought they must be something multiplayer related. By all reason, that 105GB must include the campaign, right?

Well, it doesn't, so I'm off to download the campaign packs, I just click them from my PSN download list. Optimistically, I tried to install pack 1 first to see if I could start the campaign while pack 2 downloads in the background - no such luck, of course. So 28GB of downloading later, this is it. Now I get to play the campaign. I launch it once again (as said, keeping it open in the background, even if not active, will affect download speeds), only to find out that the install is still incomplete? So I click on the button, to find out I also need "Compatibility Data Pack 1" (as a side note, you can't find this package in PSN search and it's not included in the bundle when you buy the game) - that's 18GB more still.

At this point I thought to myself "ok game, fine, you won, it's already 2:30AM, I'll turn myself in". But then in a cruel twist of fate, PSN download speeds suddenly jump up to almost my max dl. I've already wasted most of the night, what's a bit more? So 30 minutes later I'm playing the campaign, and while I can't say much yet, it looks and plays great. I'm seriously impressed by the presentation and performance.

But what I'm even more impressed by is the fact that I ended up downloading 153.3GB to play a campaign. And that's without installing multiplayer, spec ops or survival packs. I appreciate the effort from the devs to modularize the install a bit, and also understand that single-player is not the main focus. But still. 153.3GB.
 
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nemiroff

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It's interesting to observe that all the stuff that has been dominantly complained about since the release, like C4, RPGs, OP shotguns and Killstreaks are still implemented in the game just like it always was. Not even a few normal DM modes without killstreaks.. Movement variety players "lose", campers and cheaters "win".

...And bunny-jumping (and falling on stomach) is still as corny as ever.
 
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TheBoss1

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nemiroff said:
...And bunny-jumping (and falling on stomach) is still as corny as ever.
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It's called drop shotting.

The bunny jumping used to piss me off but now I've overcome it by becoming one of them. It's especially effective at people ADS-ing while waiting around a corner for you.

I wish these cheap tactics weren't in the game either but the COD community cries about everything they were able to do or have in past games that were taken away. So the only way to combat it is to find a way around it or join them.
 
nemiroff

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TheBoss1 said:
It's called drop shotting.

The bunny jumping used to piss me off but now I've overcome it by becoming one of them. It's especially effective at people ADS-ing while waiting around a corner for you.

I wish these cheap tactics weren't in the game either but the COD community cries about everything they were able to do or have in past games that were taken away. So the only way to combat it is to find a way around it or join them.
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The irony is that bunny jumping is so common now and easy to predict that the benefit is largely lost, unless playing against noobs that are unable to not ADS. I've been playing for so many years now that I can do what everyone else is doing - Which is why I don't.. if you know what I mean.. When I'm at the top of the leaderboard getting the longest travelled distance, that's when I feel good.

Anyway, bunny-jumping aside, the inclusion of cheap coin-toss mechanics is the big downer for me. I know it's futile to bitch about it, but it's still sad that IW "doesn't care" for those of us who think it cheapens the experience.

Oh, and how about that Promenade Ground War... Holy shit, gives me nightmares, it's so awful, lol
 
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nemiroff said:
The irony is that bunny jumping is so common now and easy to predict that the benefit is largely lost, unless playing against noobs that are unable to not ADS. I've been playing for so many years now that I can do what everyone else is doing - Which is why I don't.. if you know what I mean.. When I'm at the top of the leaderboard getting the longest travelled distance, that's when I feel good.

Anyway, bunny-jumping aside, the inclusion of cheap coin-toss mechanics is the big downer for me. I know it's futile to bitch about it, but it's still sad that IW "doesn't care" for those of us who think it cheapens the experience.

Oh, and how about that Promenade Ground War... Holy shit, gives me nightmares, it's so awful, lol
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Bunny hopping isnt really an issue to me. The drop shots and jump shooting are probably the two more effective things in game anyways. I have no problem taking out a bunny hopper but sometimes I will get brain mush when someone drop shots me. Though I do love those days when I am on fire and punish all players that cross my path
 
nemiroff

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I feel like the amount of cheaters, both PC and consoles (controller cheat boxes), now is at an all time ridiculous level. Almost every game.. people are not even trying to hide it. Considering leaving all popular MP games behind for a while. F.ex. there's no way I'm wasting money on Cold War if the devs can't implement a better anti cheat than IW. Free Warzone has in particular been a disaster.
 
manfestival

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nemiroff said:
I feel like the amount of cheaters, both PC and consoles (controller cheat boxes), now is at an all time ridiculous level. Almost every game.. people are not even trying to hide it. Considering leaving all popular MP games behind for a while. F.ex. there's no way I'm wasting money on Cold War if the devs can't implement a better anti cheat than IW. Free Warzone has in particular been a disaster.
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I mostly play MP and that is not my experience. You are alluding to Warzone and I get it but.... the MP is great and cheaters are few and far between. At least... not perceptible enough
 
Shmunter

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nemiroff said:
I feel like the amount of cheaters, both PC and consoles (controller cheat boxes), now is at an all time ridiculous level. Almost every game.. people are not even trying to hide it. Considering leaving all popular MP games behind for a while. F.ex. there's no way I'm wasting money on Cold War if the devs can't implement a better anti cheat than IW. Free Warzone has in particular been a disaster.
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I hope not, but I can see how console kids would gravitate towards wanting to keep up with pc cross cheaters. At least consoles are still relegated to basic shenanigans, no wall hacks or aim bots.
 
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Bought tlou2, and honestly it just makes me appreciate what IW did with this games graphics even more. Tlou2 only looks better on cutscenes, for rest MW looks better. Incredible accomplishment considering double the framerate of cod.
 
nemiroff

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Call of Duty: Modern Shotguns - the game
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Yeah.. But IW is also enabling it by making shotgun challenges f.ex.. I went through a shotgun challenge last week and I was rather embarrassed while doing it, ended up at 30 kills and 5 deaths in a KC game, lol. Shouldn't be like that. SPRs, shotguns, RPGs, C4s, killstreaks... why not a mode without all of this bullshit??
 
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Riky

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Just been asked if I want a high resolution texture pack for X1X and XSX, it's another 23.61gb after the 30gb patch.
 
DoomGyver

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They need to remove this Cold War crap from my Modern Warfare. I don’t want to play CW. I’m playing MW. Get it out. Ever since these two games have been thrown together MW has only played worse. Packet loss, guns feeling odd. Get it out Activision. Let CW stand on its own and don’t let it drag MW down. Greedy assholes. What have you done to my boy?
 
Matt_Fox

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I've had a go on the new Zombies map Firebase Z.

Have to say, after really enjoying Die Machine this new map isn't impressing me much. Rather murky green / brown military base and not a very interesting environment to spend hours battling zombies in.
 
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