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Canadian General Election (OT) - #elxn42: October 19, 2015

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gutter_trash

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it is true that home owners have received a big slab of concrete poored onto their property and have those ugly community boxes onto your property without permission
 
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TheRealTalker said:
Not again
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/can...ctions-canada-incorrect-voter-cards-1.3255367
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This actually happens somewhat often. The most common cause is that voters get the right information but then the venue where the polling station is being held (a church, a gym, community center, whatever) has an issue and they have to move the poll. Elections Canada is pretty good about issuing replacement voting cards and I trust them as professionals to correct this so the impact for actual voters is minimal come election day.

Edit: I just checked to see if I could pull stats on this:
http://www.elections.ca/content2.aspx?section=faq&dir=poll&document=index&lang=e#oth10
It turns out it's in their FAQ

How common is it for Elections Canada to move a polling place at the last minute?

It is very rare that we change polling places after voter information cards have been sent (cards should arrive in voters' mailboxes 18 days before election day). We move polling places only in exceptional situations – for example, if there is a fire at the original polling place.

In the last general election, a total of 473 polls (less than 1%) were moved, affecting some 300,000 electors (1.3%). This was in response to feedback from electors or candidates, or because an unforeseen event, such as a flood or power outage, made the original polling place unsuitable. We issued revised voter information cards in most cases. 61 polling stations were moved without our having time to issue a revised VIC. This affected 19,000 out of 24 million electors (.00079%) in 24 ridings. We posted a poll worker at the old polling place to redirect electors to the new one.
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So obviously in this case, the latter doesn't help because the people are deterred from voting, but my point is that they can go from 300,000 voters being impacted by an issue to 19,000, and that's pretty good turnaround time. In this case it's definitely early enough.
 
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gutter_trash said:
it is true that home owners have received a big slab of concrete poored onto their property and have those ugly community boxes onto your property without permission
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Yes.

I remember hearing about a woman who had to sit in the freshly dug hole to stop the workers...
 
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Stumpokapow said:
This actually happens somewhat often. The most common cause is that voters get the right information but then the venue where the polling station is being held (a church, a gym, community center, whatever) has an issue and they have to move the poll. Elections Canada is pretty good about issuing replacement voting cards and I trust them as professionals to correct this so the impact for actual voters is minimal come election day.
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I am glad it was found out before the elections

they're apparently sending out replacements
 
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AuthenticM said:
How the hell is Québec against closing down the Senate? It doesn't make any sense.

shame
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that is because both Ontario and Quebec hold each the largest amount of Senators than any other Province.

Both Quebec and Ontario see that as a bargaining chip if Ottawa if tries to abolish it.

Constitutional blabla
 
dragonfart28

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Holy shit Harper just said Mulcair is right about something.


BigJonsson said:
Jill Kestler-DAmours ‏@jkdamours 2m2 minutes ago

Debate moderator cites Harper as saying Quebec sovereignty is "past date" - Duceppe pounces: "For me what's past date is this PM"
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It think it was 'obsolete'
 
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BigJonsson said:
Jill Kestler-DAmours ‏@jkdamours 2m2 minutes ago

Debate moderator cites Harper as saying Quebec sovereignty is "past date" - Duceppe pounces: "For me what's past date is this PM"
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Outdated would be a better word. :p But yeah, that's about it.
 
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gutter_trash

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who won the debate:

1-Duceppe
2-Mulcair
3-Trudeau
4-Harper

tonight was Harper's worst debate thus far. The Duceppe factor really makes a difference at ganging up on Harper.

tonight doesn't effect my vote
 
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Duceppe won and Harper lost.

Unless the NPD goes back up in the polls at the last minute, I'm voting for Trudeau. Basically, I'm voting for whoever has the best chances of ousting Harper from office. Ten years is way too fucking long a reign for this shit-eating fucker.
 
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Gonna have to agree on Duceppe generally, but Mulcair proved he was the star on the Niqab issue and how it relates to rights and freedoms.
 
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You might hate separatists or whatever, but you have to admit Duceppe is a pretty great watchdog. I want to see him in Ottawa.
 
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Trudeau did very well. He only got in trouble during the Niqab part. His main problem is that Duceppe is a much better debater. So he stood out more. Mulcair did better than at the last Munk Debate and Harper is like usual. He takes a beating and keep repeating his program.
 
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The conservatives are now bashing the NDP for marrying chinese women in mandarin.

WTH
http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/we-t...criticized-the-ndp-for-marrying-chinese-women

The line in that statement from the conservatives that mentions this.

It could also be said that New Democrats are also very close with China, since the wife of the venerable former NDP leader Jack Layton is Chinese Canadian, while the wife of MP Peter Julian is also Chinese Canadian, there is no reason not to be close with the Chinese community.
 
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They should make a reel of all the stupid stuff said too.

-Duceppe and Trudeau's Art Carney/ Mon amour
-Trudeau's potholes of mass destruction that destroys cars
-Mulcair saying we're good at taking care of refugees because it's cold here too
-Harper's many French failures
 
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Vamphuntr said:
Trudeau did very well. He only got in trouble during the Niqab part. His main problem is that Duceppe is a much better debater. So he stood out more. Mulcair did better than at the last Munk Debate and Harper is like usual. He takes a beating and keep repeating his program.
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Trudeau's strongest issues: income tax cut for the middle class, infrastructure investment, senior pension reverting to 65, domestic issues mostly.

Trudeau's weakest issues: War against ISIS, the niqab into pot hole subject change,
 
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Kifimbo said:
FYI, post-debate highlights (TVA) were about the niqab and marijuana.
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Clearly, the pressing issues of our generation.

Vamphuntr said:
They should make a reel of all the stupid stuff said too.

-Duceppe and Trudeau's Art Carney/ Mon amour
-Trudeau's potholes of mass destruction that destroys cars
-Mulcair saying we're good at taking care of refugees because it's cold here too
-Harper's many French failures
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How many erections?
 
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Tiktaalik said:
On what? Anti-Abortion?
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it's the whole thing about the War against ISIS and the niqab issue.
Nobody beleives that you can just be a Peace Keeper with blue helmets in such a chaotic area of the world, going on about Peace Keepers, Peace Keepers. It's a one of his weakest issues where he doesn't even convince anti-war people and anti-intervention people that Peace Keepers can make a dent in Syria-Iraq.

he's clumsy when talking about that
 
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AuthenticM said:
Duceppe won and Harper lost.

Unless the NPD goes back up in the polls at the last minute, I'm voting for Trudeau. Basically, I'm voting for whoever has the best chances of ousting Harper from office. Ten years is way too fucking long a reign for this shit-eating fucker.
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Yeah - make sure you vote for whoever will beat the CPC in your riding. Not which party is leading nationally.
 
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gutter_trash said:
it's the whole thing about the War against ISIS and the niqab issue.
Nobody beleives that you can just be a Peace Keeper with blue helmets in such a chaotic area of the world, going on about Peace Keepers, Peace Keepers. It's a one of his weakest issues where he doesn't even convince anti-war people and anti-intervention people that Peace Keepers can make a dent in Syria-Iraq.

he's clumsy when talking about that
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Warmongering instead of Peacekeeping is why there is an Iraq-Syria debacle.
 
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sunofsam said:
Warmongering instead of Peacekeeping is why there is an Iraq-Syria debacle.
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I was against the 2003 war in Iraq and still am.

the present situation in Syria and Iraq with ISIS is way way too fucked up to even touch it with a 10 foot pole

there is no realistic believable argument that can lead anyone to believe that Peace Keepers can help that war torn region.
 
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