Simon Belmont
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T-t-t-triple post.
Did they ever stop airing ads about Justin?
Did they ever stop airing ads about Justin?
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Canadian General Election (OT) - #elxn42: October 19, 2015
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As far as I can tell, the Just Not Ready ads seem to have been dropped altogether recently in favor of more Conservative/Harper positive ads.
PumpkinSpice
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That's cause at confederation NS had a relatively large share of Canada's population. Given how confederation and the last 150 years of being in Canada has totally fucked over NS, I don't think it's the worst thing that they get a bit more representation in our national useless legislature.
killer rin
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I don't think so, but even then; unless they already had a new ad ready, whats the chances they could get one made and put on the air with enough time left over to actually disseminate and have any effect?
Usually these ads are made weeks ahead of time and an ad that runs for a day or two wont be all too effective, especially since the parties are starting to switch up their current ads to hit the "Get out and Vote so we can win" message
AuthenticM
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La photo a été prise le vendredi 2 octobre, lors d'un événement public au Manitoba lors duquel la récente gagnante d'origine autochtone du concours de Madame Univers voulait inciter les jeunes à aller voter.
Mme Callingbull a déjà appelé à plusieurs reprises les Canadiens en général et les Autochtones en particulier à voter contre Stephen Harper, ces dernières semaines. « Croyez-vous vraiment que j'étais pour rester là et faire la belle? Certainement pas », avait-elle écrit sur les réseaux sociaux.
Madame Univers n'a pas perdu du temps. Elle a notamment critiqué les actions du gouvernement conservateur concernant le dossier des femmes autochtones disparues et assassinées.
source: Radio-Canada
Translation: Ashley Callingbull does not much care for Harper.
Simon Belmont
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No calling bull on that.
AuthenticM
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gutter_trash
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she is both Miss Canada and Miss Universe for people who don't know.
And I agree with her
Mrs* not Miss
I think "fuck Harper" is a bit crude of a slogan that doesn't resonate with certain demographics (families). I prefer "Stop Harper" myself.
I do hope she gets more First Nations people to vote.
Simon Belmont
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When I was 17 I walked into a Conservative rally in Sarnia (when Stockwell Day was running) with a shirt that said "Guns don't kill people / Pro Lifers with Guns Kill People"
I stood there for a bit while nobody noticed me, felt silly and left. I'd like to think that day would have gone very differently indeed had I been Mrs. Universe.
I stood there for a bit while nobody noticed me, felt silly and left. I'd like to think that day would have gone very differently indeed had I been Mrs. Universe.
Yep. The annoying thing to all this to me, though, is the fact that people seem to think this is a good shift for a 'strategic' push to remove Haprer when it's really anything but if the liberal rise is largely confined to Ontario. The Quebec collapse of the NDP is the *worst possible thing* to happen to the chances of Harper not taking control of the next legislature. It means the re-rise of the Bloc on vote splits and that could easily mean Lib+NDP don't have enough to credibly oust Harper as PM. Especially since in Ontario the Liberals face a much stronger fight against the CPC and the Liberals probably won't pick up all that much out west.
Also we could conceivably end up in a situation where the Liberals place second in popular vote and still wind up third in seats. Can't wait to see what gutter (and JT) thinks of PR if that happens.
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crazy monkey
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harper will win. fear tactics work every time.
firehawk12
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I'm not in this thread much, but I don't think I even know who Iph is...
Simon Belmont
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My work here is done.
I'm hoping Canadians aren't that stupid.
Actually most aren't, but there has to be strategic voting.
Morrigan Stark
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I'm having an argument about strategic voting on another forum. Guy said it "feels like selling out". I can see the point of view, but feelings don't see as important as urgent issues and it seems to me that it's far more important to get rid of the CPC in power right now than considering one's feelings. Meh.
You just have to think of it as pretending to vote in another riding while someone in that riding pretends to vote in yours.
Vote with your brain, not your heart.
It's just to get Harper out, that's what the majority wants.
matthewwhatever
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So at what cost does democracy become more acceptable? If we cut their costs by 30% are they cheap enough to impose on people one or two extra times? 50%?
1) Just in case you didn't know, you can respond to multiple people in a single post by clicking on that little + sign next to "Quote".
2) The problem with suddenly refocusing on the Liberals is that "Just Not Ready" is proving to be less effective than the Conservatives had hoped. It worked when Trudeau wasn't on TV regularly to rebut the charges, but much less so as people have seen him and grown more comfortable with him. They could try and come up with an entirely new line of attack, but with a little over two weeks to go that would be difficult. Their whole campaign is built around "Proven Leadership" vs "Just Not Ready", so shifting the attack ads to reflect a new message would be no small thing.
Wells has an interesting article about the Trudeau vs Harper dynamic (pretty much ignoring Mulcair, which probably tells you where coverage is going to go for the next two weeks):
(Note: that's one of six mentions Mulcair gets in the article. Three of the others are aligning him with Harper, one mentions that Trudeau and Mulcair have the same position on C-24, and the last one says any of the three could still be PM.)
Depends on your riding. A lot of Burnaby ridings are pretty NDP iirc. Check out http://strategicvoting.ca
I didn't watch the French debate because my French listening skills aren't that good, but this news story caught my attention:
Justin Trudeau calls Gilles Duceppe 'my love' in French debate, tongue slip goes viral
On the other hand, the Bloc Québécois leader mistakes banker Mark Carney for dead actor Art Carney
I'mma have to watch a replay of this debate. Is there a transcript? My French reading skills are adequate at least.
Justin Trudeau calls Gilles Duceppe 'my love' in French debate, tongue slip goes viral
On the other hand, the Bloc Québécois leader mistakes banker Mark Carney for dead actor Art Carney
I'mma have to watch a replay of this debate. Is there a transcript? My French reading skills are adequate at least.
umop_3pisdn
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I'll ship it.
matthewwhatever
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Depends on which riding in Burnaby you're in. All three of them lean NDP, and two have NDP incumbents. To the extent it can be trusted, 308 has all three going NDP.
do we really need canadian prime ministerial candidate fan fiction?
...Is there any reason we don't?
Burnaby has been solidly NDP since the 90s and you should definitely vote NDP here. In these ridings the Conservatives are second place and the Liberals third. The Liberal Party has traditionally been a minor player in this area of Vancouver, getting single digits of support.
You can look at the history of these ridings, with votes redistributed to reflect the new ridings on the elections Canada webpage. http://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=res&dir=cir/trans2013&document=p48&lang=e#tab6bc
Burnaby North has been solidly NDP since the 90s, however in this election the riding has changed and it has been tacked onto the far east part of North Van, which is a Conservative area. If one redistributed the 2011 votes of North Van and North Burnaby into this new riding, the Conservatives would have won. This means that this riding is very much in play and if you live in this riding it's particularly important that you get out and vote. It could very easily go Conservative if the more left leaning Burnaby side of the riding doesn't show up.
Who does Harper pair with?
Actually, don't answer that. We'll get put on his list of enemies.
Bush of course. It's clear he idolizes the man.
Morrigan Stark
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Hahaha that choice of pics is just too perfect. xDI didn't watch the French debate because my French listening skills aren't that good, but this news story caught my attention:
Justin Trudeau calls Gilles Duceppe 'my love' in French debate, tongue slip goes viral
On the other hand, the Bloc Québécois leader mistakes banker Mark Carney for dead actor Art Carney
(Sorry, watched the thing in French so I have no idea about an English transcript.)
lol
What Duceppe thinks of that:
killer rin
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Hahaha that choice of pics is just too perfect. xD
(Sorry, watched the thing in French so I have no idea about an English transcript.)
lol
What Duceppe thinks of that:
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...the only question now is who's the sub, who's the dom, and where does Mulcair fit into all of this
I don't know how true this is since I saw it in the comment section of the above CBC article, but Jesus Christ. Our government needs to have looked into helping our First Nations peoples a long fucking time ago.
Edit: Yup, Maclean's reported it on September 30th. Jesus Christ. What a fucking shame.
Edit: Yup, Maclean's reported it on September 30th. Jesus Christ. What a fucking shame.
killer rin
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Its so disturbing to know that this is going on in our own country and the Government isn't doing anything to stop it... pathetic
Moreover, it hardly gets any coverage on the media, so most of us are completely in the dark. Good grief.
I think it's also a collective blind eye from a large portion of the Canadian population. I've met a lot of people that, while being pleasant most of the time, have disgusting and vile opinions about aboriginal people.
matthewwhatever
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The Star has put together their election aggregator, and it shows predictions on a riding-by-riding basis. Say, how's that whole "Trudeau might lose his own riding" thing looking?
So...much less likely.
Outremont, though, that looks like a close race. Say, who's the MP for Outremont?
So...much less likely.
Outremont, though, that looks like a close race. Say, who's the MP for Outremont?
thanks for the info, folks!
I was aware we've been pretty strongly NDP for a long while, (and I have always voted that way) but I wanted to make absolute sure that for whatever reason, it wouldn't be a potentially dangerous decision for this election if it meant somehow ensuring Harper getting the boot.
thankfully, it looks like my party and vote will still be the safe decision.
I was aware we've been pretty strongly NDP for a long while, (and I have always voted that way) but I wanted to make absolute sure that for whatever reason, it wouldn't be a potentially dangerous decision for this election if it meant somehow ensuring Harper getting the boot.
thankfully, it looks like my party and vote will still be the safe decision.
Take the results from outremont with a grain of salt in this poll. 308 puts Mulcair 15 percent ahead of the Liberal candidate if I recall. I don't know if any riding polls have been done on that riding, but I just don't think it's realistic that mulcair is one point ahead of the liberal candidate.Quebec has to collapse very severely for the NDP for mulcair to be in danger and that looks very unlikely now.
Good god. Those numbers are ridiculous. This should be a major election issue.
Winnipeg is especially horrible. My dad thinks that all Aboriginal people are criminals or drug abusers.
You're feeling giddy, aren't you?
To be fair, aboriginals (not all, but the isolated ones mostly) have a lot of substance abuse issues.
My cousin went as a social worker in the top North of Quebec and she saw some horrible shit there.
(ex: people beating/hurting their kid and then getting high on the prescription given for the kid)
UberTag
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Loving that we have so many riding-specific aggregators in play now.
My riding is clear cut but there are obvious battlegrounds that are plain as day where mobilizing voter turnout... and in the proper direction... is so critical as we enter into these final two weeks of the campaign.
My riding is clear cut but there are obvious battlegrounds that are plain as day where mobilizing voter turnout... and in the proper direction... is so critical as we enter into these final two weeks of the campaign.
gutter_trash
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Mulcair himself is the MP of Outremont
I am more concerned for my riding of Laurier-Ste-Marie. I don't want Duceppe back as my MP
*edit, LOL I didn't notice the blue link
I think the NDP candidate will beat duceppe in that riding.
Yeah, I can't see Mulcair losing his own riding, no matter if his campaign has faltered. He's won it with the NDP at lower levels of support than they're polling now, and party leaders rarely lose (the voters tend to get that it's good to have such a high-profile MP).
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Farmers. They're pretty ignorant on this matter, too. But there's one thing that they love and it's the status quo. They also love to vote to keep the status quo.
Ignatieff lost his seat last time.
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