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Canadian General Election (OT) - #elxn42: October 19, 2015

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Trudeau is a Sorcerer?

Dang what is wrong with the Left... Vampires and Sorcerers all over the place

Having a sorcerer in your party is always useful. I wonder what level he is?
 
If I recall it was 5 or more(may be wrong about this)newspapers supporting them while none of the media were supporting the NDP despite the NDP being in the lead. My point still stands.The bloc is going to have to make people more interested in them to get a lot more seats in Quebec anyway.
The souvernist movement is asleep on neutral.

Souvernists on the Left, Progressives ask themselves if its worth it having 4 more years of Harper and are ready to vote reluctantly ABC for a Federalist party just to stop Harper.

Right Wing souvetnists however, they would gladly vote Bloc or Conservative.
 

Apathy

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Trudeau is a Sorcerer?

Dang what is wrong with the Left... Vampires and Sorcerers all over the place

How could I not? As a student of politics for more than 40 years, how could I avoid quiet admiration for anyone who could run a campaign as sneakily unprincipled as Trudeau’s, and get away with it? Teamed with his very own master of the dark arts – a graduate of the Dalton McGuinty school of unprincipled power – Trudeau has pulled off one of the great campaigns of recent history: a flagrantly dishonest run for office, based on a pledge of honesty

What world are conservative talking heads living in. Everything he just wrote here, is exactly what Harper is doing, and it's like he does not see it.
 

Pedrito

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It's all about that fear campaign against anyone who dares to vote against Harper.
Thing is... even though we can largely thank Harper for it, the loonie tanking even further is the one tangible truth in the mountain of nonsense and bullshit they're currently spewing.

Frankly, I'll take the short-term hit to our dollar to get rid of him and his poison.

It will drop a cent on tuesday and gain it back by the end of the week.

It's not like Trudeau promised a moratorium on oil extraction.
 
Enh, it's usually not worth dignifying it with a response. This is pretty much on par with Harper claiming that the Liberals were okay with child pornography. Losing campaigns do losing things.



And yet, from the same publication: For Canada Investors, Liberals Prove Better Bet Than Tories

The article I linked referenced actual market dynamics (i.e., what investors are thinking/acting upon). Your article is based on circumstancial evidence at best.

“To me, it comes down to timing and a bit of luck,” Lakehead’s Di Matteo said.

Loonie is already at the bottom of the sewer after 10 years of Harper. I dont understand how you can blame opposition parties when the economy became shit under the CPC watch.

Blame the price of oil, not Harper. It's like saying that the Liberals under Chretien/Martin were awesome, when they were just riding the wave. Same thing for Clinton in the US.
 
Those Ekos numbers are interesting...but I don't believe them. Or at least they are maxing out their margins of error. Those swings in QC and BC are massive, and the NDP is at 1.5% in MB? I know they've lost popularity there based on their provincial government...but that's too low.
 
Irony of the day,
Harper claims that Trudeau will open the fludd gates of drugs onto our streets. ...

... does photo-ops with Rob Ford on same day
 

Holmes

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Those Ekos numbers are interesting...but I don't believe them. Or at least they are maxing out their margins of error. Those swings in QC and BC are massive, and the NDP is at 1.5% in MB? I know they've lost popularity there based on their provincial government...but that's too low.
Very small sample size. Maybe they only called rural Manitoba.
 

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Awkward silence, then tried to pivot to talk specifically about Syrian refugees, need to be vetted because some of them might be terrorists, and besides, they'd end up on welfare, need to ensure we only get the "right" kind of immigration, people who will contribute, etc.

And the cherry on top is that he's an immigrant himself, from Central America.
Tell him that Latin American immigrants need to be vetted in case they're drug dealers or cartel terrorists, see how he likes that shitty unfounded generalization, heh.

There's a very widespread misconception that muslims are somehow "invading" Canada. People think they represent 20% of the population, when it's in fact... 2%. This ignorance makes it even easier for politicians to manipulate people and make them fear a threat that doesn't exist...

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Wow, those are crazy numbers. How the hell do people think 1 in 5 Canadians is Muslim? Damn.


Caught this from my Albertan cousin's facebook feed

Gotta love the average HOCKEY-PLAYIN' KID
Because nothing makes someone more relatable to the middle class than "lobbyist"... fucking LOL
 
Those Ekos numbers are interesting...but I don't believe them. Or at least they are maxing out their margins of error. Those swings in QC and BC are massive, and the NDP is at 1.5% in MB? I know they've lost popularity there based on their provincial government...but that's too low.

otoh, the preceding QC swing might've been the outlying bit and this is just a correction, particularly if Nanos et al vibe well with the Quebec result here

gonna need to wait until Tuesday to know for sure
 

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The article I linked referenced actual market dynamics (i.e., what investors are thinking/acting upon). Your article is based on circumstancial evidence at best.





Blame the price of oil, not Harper. It's like saying that the Liberals under Chretien/Martin were awesome, when they were just riding the wave. Same thing for Clinton in the US.

That's what happens when your entire economic plan relies on oil.
 
I like Ksharp, he decided to go with Pepsi instead of Coke and is sticking with Pepsi.

Reminds me on my decision to stick with Coke.


Coke wins on Monday night
 
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I like Ksharp, he decided to go with Pepsi instead of Coke and is sticking with Pepsi.

Reminds me on my decision to stick with Coke.


Coke wins on Monday night

I hope Mountain Dew will at least get a few seats.
 

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Caught this from my Albertan cousin's facebook feed



Gotta love the average HOCKEY-PLAYIN' KID
I get what they're going for with most of that, but I have no idea why they think it's a winning comparison to call Harper a "political aide" and "lobbyist". "Drama teacher" and "rafting instructor" are both way more likely to generate positive associations in people's minds.
 

firehawk12

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It's not that, it's that I seriously doubt how accepting you'd be of a party--especially an Ontario-based party--that was able to garner tons of support by promising to represent "their interests" while ignoring the rest of the country.

Hell, Ontario has the highest population of any of the provinces, so they could come out with a platform to divert all the funds of the federal coffers into the pockets of Ontarians and leave the rest of the country to starve, and because they vote in a bloc they'd win. Amazing!
Regionalism is unavoidable, because once a people feel that no federalist option is viable, they will rally behind a local party. That's how the NDP started after all, and we're seeing the UK go through it with Scotland and the SNP.

Australia's right wing Coalition is made up of three regionalist right wing parties and the broader Liberal party that represents federalist interests. Strong regionalism can work well in a federalist context.

Hell, in the US, the only reason manufacturers try to have clean cars is because they need to meet California's high emission standards and they can't afford to not sell cars in that State.
 

Dunlop

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Either I'm too old or too young, but I have no idea what this is supposed to parody :(
No clue my little nephew happen to be singing it last week and it popped back in my head with the soft drink references

On topic, liberals are really pressing hard in my riding with many meet and greets. I want to choose then but my riding is so strongly aligned with NDP now but was previously BQ that I am afraid to splinter the vote that could bring the BQ back
 

Sober

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Young Conservatives don't make sense to me unless they are social conservatives. But how can that even be possible at York of all places?
Seeing as they go to York I would wager they don't actually know how or why communism failed. So to them it's just buzzwords. Empty white noise.
 

firehawk12

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Seeing as they go to York I would wager they don't actually know how or why communism failed. So to them it's just buzzwords. Empty white noise.
Is it just rich people who hate the poors? I guess you guys have that business school so I can see York being full of future MBAs ready to start the next subprime mortgage scheme and they would hate more banking regulations or whatever. lol
 

maharg

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Young Conservatives don't make sense to me unless they are social conservatives. But how can that even be possible at York of all places?

I've known far more young fiscal conservatives than young social conservatives. Generally they expect to get rich and don't want to end up being taxed heavily when they do. They also usually come from very privileged backgrounds and don't understand why people end up needing social assistance.
 

Apathy

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I've known far more young fiscal conservatives than young social conservatives. Generally they expect to get rich and don't want to end up being taxed heavily when they do. They also usually come from very privileged backgrounds and don't understand why people end up needing social assistance.

Ah yes, the old "I'm going to be a millionaire one day so why do I want to be taxed to death" excuse. That seems to work out well for all those poor southern republicans
 

Sober

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Ah yes, the old "I'm going to be a millionaire one day so why do I want to be taxed to death" excuse. That seems to work out well for all those poor southern republicans
What, your five-year plans don't always include "become a millionaire or better"? Sounds like someone isn't thinking ahead! If you don't get it the first time, you should keep it on the list!
 

firehawk12

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But if you are going to university in your home province, your education is subsidized. Just ask any out of province or international student how much they actually pay a year to go to your school. So you are already taking a handout just to get your Business degree so that you can work at daddy's bank or whatever it is these kids think is going to happen in their future.
 

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Oh man I just saw the Trudeau ad featuring the old woman saying "Stephen, do I look scared?" for the first time. Good stuff.
 
My political journey to date: started as a Liberal, because my parents were. Thought about going NDP during a high school co-op placement, but wasn't very impressed by the MP I worked for. Basically got recruited into the PCs by Scott Brison. Remained a dedicated PCer (federally) until the party ceased to exist. Joined up with the Greens, until it ended in a spectacularly bad fashion. Briefly joined the NDP, until I realized I didn't like Jack Layton. Joined the Liberals because I was so inspired by Dion at the convention he won. Still a Liberal today.

It's rather...winding, though I'm much more left-wing now than I was a decade and a half ago.

You guys are hyping me up for a liberal government. If the cons get reelected on Monday, I'm going to go medieval on your asses.

I think we'll be talking the slimmest majority possible, so don't get too excited yet. Expect the worst, hope for the best.

Oh man I just saw the Trudeau ad featuring the old woman saying "Stephen, do I look scared?" for the first time. Good stuff.

That's not just any old woman.
 
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