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Canadian General Election (OT) - #elxn42: October 19, 2015

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Azzanadra

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With what we have seen so far, my only problem is the CPC still being the official opposition. I was hoping Tom would help solidify the progressive base in parliament, but the level of animosity between the LPC and NDP is almost more than between those parties and the CPC. At least that's what it seems like sometimes. I just hope Mulcair is willing to play ball with Trudeau.
 
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If it weren't for the fact that Harper's likely gone, I'd totally make something called Sheev or Steve because Good lord he's like Palpatine in hindsight.

I, for one, welcome our majestically haired overlord.
 
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Azzanadra said:
With what we have seen so far, my only problem is the CPC still being the official opposition. I was hoping Tom would help solidify the progressive base in parliament, but the level of animosity between the LPC and NDP is almost more than between those parties and the CPC. At least that's what it seems like sometimes. I just hope Mulcair is willing to play ball with Trudeau.
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Eh, I don't think it's anywhere close. It's just the more pressing concern for both parties right now with the CPC in doldrums. Both parties needed Canadians to make a broad choice between the two of them more than they needed to take votes from the Conservatives in order to win power.

In government they'll work better together than either ever could have with the CPC as it currently exists (and remember that we've seen that game already).
 
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mo60

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gutter_trash said:
Justin wins,
Harper quits,
Mulcair loses in Outremont,
Duceppe loses in Laurier-Ste-Marie
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That is not guaranteed yet. Duceppe losing looks possible now, but the race is still tight in that riding.I'm just going to wait until election day to see if the Quebec numbers are true because some of the other polls contradict Leger in Quebec.I also don't think the liberals have an 8 point lead over the conservatives right now. More like 5 or 6 without the 6 point lead in quebec.
 
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gutter_trash said:
Justin wins,
Harper quits,
Mulcair loses in Outremont,
Duceppe loses in Laurier-Ste-Marie
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mo60 said:
That is not guaranteed yet. Duceppe losing looks possible now, but the race is still tight in that riding.I'm just going to wait until election day to see if the Quebec numbers are true because some of the other polls contradict Leger in Quebec.I also don't think the liberals have an 8 point lead over the conservatives right now. More like 5 or 6 without the 6 point lead in quebec.
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I'm pretty sure gutter just whispers those four lines to himself every night before bed like Arya Stark.
 
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Niiiiiiice.
Looking good for the Liberals.
Though I hope now the conservative-fan strategy of telling people to vote for NDP if they don't like Harper to make a vote split actually backfires against them and drains them of support, propping the NDP up to be official opposition.
 
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Tabris

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A liberal minority with an ndp opposition would be the best thing for Canada. Actually a green minority with a liberal opposition would be best.
 
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mo60

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Tabris said:
A liberal minority with an ndp opposition would be the best thing for Canada. Actually a green minority with a liberal opposition would be best.
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You better hope for Ontario, BC and Atlantic Canada to not give many seats to the conservatives for that to happen.

Also the recent nanos poll released and it looks like the liberals are increasing their lead in Ontario again and have dropped a bit in Quebec along with the NDP.
http://www.nanosresearch.com/library/polls/20151016 Ballot TrackingE.pdf
 
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Lexxus said:
I think that's impossible to happen.
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It's completely impossible because of the way this election has shifted. The ABC contingent is rallying around the party they believe can win because it became clearly identifiable once the Niqab sunk the NDP in Quebec. Most of the Conservative strongholds remain emboldened Conservative strongholds. Those seats aren't going anywhere. It's just that most of the battleground ridings have either swung red or turned into crapshoots.
 
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Tabris said:
A liberal minority with an ndp opposition would be the best thing for Canada. Actually a green minority with a liberal opposition would be best.
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I'm not sure if it really matters as they will be the king maker anyway.

What would be nice is if both parties worked out all of the contentious issues and formed an official coalition for 2 years.

The prospect of Conservatives having the least seats seems implausible to me at any point in time because there is a stubbornly dense base.

If we moved to PR it would increase the likelihood they could come in last.
 
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Liberals getting just shy of a majority and propping themselves up with a coalition with the 3-5 Green seats would blow everyone's mind.
 
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Sean C

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Simon Belmont said:
I think more because the Greens would have 3-5 seats in that scenario.
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3 seats isn't beyond the realm of plausibility; May, Hyer gets reelected, and they scoop Victoria, where they have a pretty decent shot (particularly since the Liberal flamed out).

Trudeau is spending Sunday campaigning in Edmonton-Mill Woods and Calgary-Skyview, for what it's worth.
 
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Sinistral said:
So I'll freely admit that I haven't exercised my vote as much as I should have. Mostly due to confusion. I like what the Liberal party is promising overall, but I like what my local MP has done, who is NDP and prefer that candidate over the others. What do?
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You're probably safe to vote however you like, in that case. You'll be the one getting MP mailouts with your personal's smiling face, so go with whichever candidate you like most.

mo60 said:
I wonder if the tories internal polls are actually worse than all the polls that have been released in the last few days or so.I have a funny feeling that the tories will do worse than a lot of polls suggested in the last week or so.
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I was talking to someone who claims to have read their latest internal polling. She would only say that there are lots and lots of really tight races, and that people around the PM are worried that he's made peace with losing (which is what that Paul Wells article said a few weeks ago).

Oh, and that their predicted range for Bloc seats was something like "between 0 and 39". Quebec is so hard to read, and none of the parties seem to have any money, accurate polling or field operations in the province.

Sean C said:
3 seats isn't beyond the realm of plausibility; May, Hyer gets reelected, and they scoop Victoria, where they have a pretty decent shot (particularly since the Liberal flamed out).

Trudeau is spending Sunday campaigning in Edmonton-Mill Woods and Calgary-Skyview, for what it's worth.
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I think the Greens get May back, and she's joined by their candidate in Victoria. I don't think Hyer makes it back, though. For their third seat...I think North Vancouver. It would be a big swing over to the Greens, but they've been going hard for that riding, and they have a strong candidate. One of my coworkers is also insistent they have a good chance in Quebec with Jici Lauzon, so we'll see. Basically, I don't think three Greens is impossible.

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Has Nanos/ekos said if they will be releasing daily tracking numbers through the weekend?
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Nanos is, and here's today's:
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Mainstreet also has their last poll out. On my phone so I can't grab a picture, but the overall numbers among decided and leaning voters are:

Liberals 37.8%
Conservatives 32.6%
NDP 20.8%
 
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Enter the Dragon Punch

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Zombie James said:
The mythical conservative "typical family":

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I still don't understand how anyone could look at the numbers the Tories put out and think it applies to an ACTUAL average Canadian
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lol saw this on Twitter



So in a nutshell this CPC candidate is trying to get re-elected by saying that they will protect you from the very issues the CPC is trying to do

LMAO
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I refuse to believe that's real. Too stupid. Gotta be fake.
 
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TheRealTalker said:
lol saw this on Twitter

So in a nutshell this CPC candidate is trying to get re-elected by saying that they will protect you from the very issues the CPC is trying to do

LMAO
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My brain hurts from reading this ad. What is she trying to accomplish here? Unless she sees the writing on the wall and plans to defect after the election...
 
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