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Candyman is getting insanely good reviews!


Sitting at 95% right now, anyone getting out to see it this weekend?
 

DKehoe

Gold Member
Nice, I hadn't been following it closely and horror isn't usually my thing but may check it out.
 

Nobody_Important

“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Damn. That's awesome. Feels like it's been forever since we had a quality horror movie.
 
Some reviews (especially by African American reviewers) point out that its too preachy and message driven. I guess just another movie that has social justice themes so will get super good reviews but might not actually be good.

I was afraid of this. Critics these days seem to fall over themselves for preachy woke movies these days. Lets see the audience score.
 

Blond

Banned
I was afraid of this. Critics these days seem to fall over themselves for preachy woke movies these days. Lets see the audience score.
Some reviews (especially by African American reviewers) point out that its too preachy and message driven. I guess just another movie that has social justice themes so will get super good reviews but might not actually be good.

Did anyone not catch any of the undertones of the original?
 
Did anyone not catch any of the undertones of the original?

If its on par with the original I will rescind my reservations. Most movies these days are more than happy to beat their audiences over the head with their messaging.

I think its a matter of priorities. Are you trying to make a good movie with a message? or trying to get a message across and the movie is just a means to an end?
 

belmarduk

Member
I really can’t remember the last time I’ve been this excited for a movie. Yesterday, I watched Farewell to the Flesh (which is a solid movie despite what most say) and Day of the Dead (which is not.)
 

mekes

Member
I don’t trust rotten tomato review scores in the slightest. I have watched so many shit movies after seeing high review scores from that website. Hope the movie is good, but all excitement left me the moment I saw the Rotten Tomato’s link!
 
I really can’t remember the last time I’ve been this excited for a movie. Yesterday, I watched Farewell to the Flesh (which is a solid movie despite what most say) and Day of the Dead (which is not.)
Farewell to the flesh was a good sequel. It gave more depth to candyman and his curse. Day of the dead was gamepass tier though.
 

SafeOrAlone

Banned
Some reviews (especially by African American reviewers) point out that its too preachy and message driven. I guess just another movie that has social justice themes so will get super good reviews but might not actually be good.
I swear I can tell the quality of these things by Perri Nemiroff reviews.
She is just barely giving it a fresh review. Translation = I better not say I didn't like this movie. It's in the words she chooses.
I'm picking on her, but I used to watch Collider and sort of noticed it there.

For reference, she was one of those people calling out Lucas Film, for announcing Jon Favreau was The Mandalorian director, on "National Women's Day. Y'know, because he's not a woman, so the world should pause on any positive announcements regarding men.
But I got the impression she was going with the crowd and had no idea what she was talking about.

She's not African American btw, it just made me think of her.
 
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T8SC

Gold Member
Lets hope these are genuine reviews and we're not all coming out of the theatre saying ....

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carlosrox

Banned
Hope it's better than Us. I don't usually tear a movie apart so viciously but I honestly thought Us was truly an awful movie.

The story and twist felt like the most high school level shit ever.
 

SafeOrAlone

Banned
The deceptive thing about Rotten Tomatoes is the fact that a high percentage just means a lot of the people think it's a "good" film.
So, it's definitely a good sign if the score is high, but it's not an indicator of a "must see" movie, if that makes sense. Like, you could achieve the almighty 100% score on RT, with a bunch of "3/5" review scores.
 

FunkMiller

Member
I wonder how close this version will be to Clive Barker’s original story. Either way, certainly going to see this as soon as I can.
 

Cravis

Member
Tony Todd better be in it. His voiceover was used in the trailers but he better physically make an appearance. I can’t imagine anyone else playing Candyman but him
 

Azurro

Banned
Oh, it's a Peele movie? Is it going to be more "why be WhITe PEoPLe sO racisT?!" like his previous ones? At least Get Out was kind of fun, US was pretentious nonsense. Since it's a black director, most likely the reviews are going to be irrelevant since they will all be automatically good.
 
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Sitting at 95% right now, anyone getting out to see it this weekend?
We need to stop using Rotten Tomatoes as a standard of movie criticism, pretty much every good film automatically enters the 80/90% zone. One of the reasons I browse Metacritic, (even though there are some morons in the user reviews) is because their scores are somewhat cohesive. A movie I watched recently called Reminiscence was a classic 5/10 and it scored 46 which was a reasonable score. Candyman is at 72 on Metacritic and 90 on Rotten Tomatoes, same with Marvel's Shang Chi.

Doesn't matter though as I'm checking out on Friday :messenger_winking:.
 

belmarduk

Member
Hope it's better than Us. I don't usually tear a movie apart so viciously but I honestly thought Us was truly an awful movie.

The story and twist felt like the most high school level shit ever.

Its Jordan Peele's company which is producing the movie. He isn't the director. I didn't hate Us but I thought the only reason it did so well was because of the success of Get Out.
 

belmarduk

Member
Tony Todd better be in it. His voiceover was used in the trailers but he better physically make an appearance. I can’t imagine anyone else playing Candyman but him

Do you remember when they made a Nightmare on Elm Street and some rando played Freddy Krueger and not Robert Englund? That was incredibly lame. Thankfully, this is not the case and Tony Todd is definitely playing Candyman.

Hell, I was pissed when I found out Tim Curry wouldn't be playing Pennywise in It. I guess there's a good reason for it but Bill Skarsgard is also a tremendous actor.
 
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belmarduk

Member
Farewell to the flesh was a good sequel. It gave more depth to candyman and his curse. Day of the dead was gamepass tier though.

Yeah it was good. I liked the slight retelling of the story because that's how urban legends spread from place to place. Its on Amazon Prime if anybody wants to see it.

Day of the Dead is on Hulu...
 

20cent

Banned
Oh, it's a Peele movie? Is it going to be more "why be WhITe PEoPLe sO racisT?!" like his previous ones? At least Get Out was kind of fun, US was pretentious nonsense. Since it's a black director, most likely the reviews are going to be irrelevant since they will all be automatically good.
I'm ok with his movies, his Twilight Zone crap was even worse on that theme, like every single episode without subtlety.
 

SpiceRacz

Member
Been looking forward to this since before it was delayed last year. Hopefully it doesn't beat the audience over the head with wokeness and can live up to the quality of the original. Which is a great horror movie imo.
 

belmarduk

Member
Been looking forward to this since before it was delayed last year. Hopefully it doesn't beat the audience over the head with wokeness and can live up to the quality of the original. Which is a great horror movie imo.

Racism is a very important component to the story of Candyman. I assume it will also be addressed in this new film. You shouldn't worry about it being woke.. just enjoy the movie!
 

Ionian

Member
Clive Barker has written nothing but rubbish in decades

His last was absolutely ghost written in parts. Dudes health is screwed. He has someone work for him

Source: my first viewing of the Nightbreed uncut in the cinema. Dude presented it an a Q@A. He wrote half of the last.


Awful book, don't bother. It's the death of Pinhead/ Who kills? Christ


After he kills the Devil of course. Only good bit.

His previous was worse. First of his I never finished

Look him up on YouTube, he's barely alive from his drug use. (obvious and he admits it,, led to a coma)
 
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Clive Barker has written nothing but rubbish in decades

His last was absolutely ghost written in parts. Dudes health is screwed. He has someone work for him

Source: my first viewing of the Nightbreed uncut in the cinema. Dude presented it an a Q@A. He wrote half of the last.


Awful book, don't bother. It's the death of Pinhead/ Who kills? Christ


After he kills the Devil of course. Only good bit.

His previous was worse. First of his I never finished

Look him up on YouTube, he's barely alive from his drug use. (obvious and he admits it,, led to a coma)
Ok... Candyman, Clive Barker, Candyman Clive Barker. Hmm...
 
Ever since i saw the first trailer and you could see the "police are profiling black people" message i stopped caring about this movie. I'm sure it's full of preachy shit, and that's why critics love it. I'll wait for youtube reviews and impressions to laugh at this shit.
 

Peggies

Gold Member
Ever since i saw the first trailer and you could see the "police are profiling black people" message i stopped caring about this movie. I'm sure it's full of preachy shit, and that's why critics love it. I'll wait for youtube reviews and impressions to laugh at this shit.
That's something I observed with horror movies recently. If they have a high score on metacritic.com it's usually because there's a "strong, stunning and brave" female character. Or a "strong, stunning and brave" black female charcter, than it gets extra points.
 
Some reviews (especially by African American reviewers) point out that its too preachy and message driven. I guess just another movie that has social justice themes so will get super good reviews but might not actually be good.
Yeah I've been worried about this given Jordan Peele is involved, and his Twilight Zone series had some apparently very preachy stuff in there. I liked Get Out even if it's a little outlandish a concept, and might've actually enjoyed Us more as a film even if it was weaker in ways than Get Out.

I hope this new Candyman isn't some overly socially preachy, pretentious type of thing but again, feels like that's where Peele has been trending since his film debut and you never know these days. We'll see. And FWIW, I know there will be BS arguments on both sides with this, so I'm coming at this like with everything these days: a born-again normie.

Racism is a very important component to the story of Candyman. I assume it will also be addressed in this new film. You shouldn't worry about it being woke.. just enjoy the movie!

This is a good point and it's something I've noticed with some claimed anti-SJW types where they try retroactively saying things with diversity in the past (well before current-era culture war BS) was also "woke"; sorry but you can't retroactively apply a modern buzzword to things of the past when the context of those things are wildly different.

Sometimes it feels like the Overton window has shifted so much that if some folks see even a single person who's not white, male or straight in something they're ready to call it "woke" or SJW trash and that's just the complete flip side of extreme stupidity as things SJWs believe. It's still extreme stupidity either way.

That said there's always a right and wrong way to go about things like diversification and making it so that it isn't denigrating other groups, or taking over the fun factor of a story or plot. Up until a few years ago it seemed like Hollywood, games, comics etc. had a pretty good balance on doing that, and had so for at least a couple decades tbh. But I think insincere types saw the opportunity where some of that could be respectfully improved, and they've leeched on that as a chance to screw everything up.
 
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Got back from watching it and they really went hard on the whole BLM angle and how white people need to stop gentrifying neighbourhoods in Chicago. There was even a message at the end of the movie highlighting a website for racial injustices lol. All in all it was a good movie, especially that dude from Skins playing the gay brother lol.
 
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