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Carrie Fisher's autopsy reveals 'cocktail of drugs'
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Ninja Scooter
Member
I just mean let's say she didn't die and relapsed or failed a drug test, what can they do? Take her out of Episode 8 and 9 and hurt their own films?
ryutaro's mama
Member
Exactly.
"Be clean or we won't let you be in a movie...in which...we need you more...than you need us."
Carrie Fisher was convinced to be in Episode 7 and 8. She didn't need to be there.
For some reason, I thought she hadn't been doing drugs for a good number of years.
This is really sad
I am not sure how anyone could have thought this. She never once claimed to be clean, ever. She was VERY public about constantly fighting addition and never having beat it.
Obliterator
Member
Incredibly sad :-(
Man that's an awful lot to be on at one time
Man that's an awful lot to be on at one time
Garrett Hawke
Member
This is a good stance to take (especially avoiding drugs).
This doesn't reflect poorly on her character, at all. We all have our own weaknesses, and she had remarkable strength in being forthcoming about hers.
Bubba_Sparks
Member
Damn, that's a lot of hard drugs! I find it amazing she was still able to function.
ryutaro's mama
Member
I would guess over years of doing stuff, you develop a tolerance...which is exactly why people OD.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Exactly. This should be the takeaway (and in a lot of cases why it is helpful to release news like this, to put a familiar, beloved face on a serious issue). Somebody's struggles with mental or addiction issues should not change how you feel about them, or make them a bad person. Getting rid of that stigma would go a long way towards getting people in Carrie's position the help they need.
Bubba_Sparks
Member
Yeah, that's true. I guess it just took a toll on her body over the years. Technically she didn't overdose though right, she had a heart attack likely from years of drug use?
ryutaro's mama
Member
I'm not sure the autopsy is conclusive as to what ultimately caused the cardiac arrest.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Did anyone here think that her death back in December wasn't a result of her decades of drug use as it was?
I guess I'm unsure as to how/why this information changes anything regarding people's conception of who she was as a person and how she lived, and even how she died.
Most everyone assumed that her death occurred as a result of her body being weakened over the course of 40+ years of constantly using one drug or another as a form of self-medication or prescribed medication from doctors/therapists.
Turns out that's exactly right. We knew it in December. We know it now. Literally nothing has changed. The lifelong addict, sufferer of mental illness, who was also champion for millions who suffered similar problems and an inspiration to fight those problems however they could, died on a plane from health complications brought on by her constantly fighting those problems.
Of course she had some shit in her system.
What's different now, six months later? Other than a fresh opportunity to apply the very shame her daughter just asked this last week to avoid using as any sort of "helpful" tool in the fight against both mental illness AND drug addiction?
I guess I'm unsure as to how/why this information changes anything regarding people's conception of who she was as a person and how she lived, and even how she died.
Most everyone assumed that her death occurred as a result of her body being weakened over the course of 40+ years of constantly using one drug or another as a form of self-medication or prescribed medication from doctors/therapists.
Turns out that's exactly right. We knew it in December. We know it now. Literally nothing has changed. The lifelong addict, sufferer of mental illness, who was also champion for millions who suffered similar problems and an inspiration to fight those problems however they could, died on a plane from health complications brought on by her constantly fighting those problems.
Of course she had some shit in her system.
What's different now, six months later? Other than a fresh opportunity to apply the very shame her daughter just asked this last week to avoid using as any sort of "helpful" tool in the fight against both mental illness AND drug addiction?
NealMcCauley
Member
The MDMA is surprising.
Alter_Fridge
Member
Don't do 7 different drugs at once. One or two is fine.
Alter_Fridge
Member
Why?
ryutaro's mama
Member
To all the people sad that she struggled with this, at least she didn't try and hide it like a lot of people in stardom tend to do.
She used her platform, for better or worse, to bring awareness in a way only she could.
She used her platform, for better or worse, to bring awareness in a way only she could.
Patrick S.
Banned
Damn, Carrie, not like this
The Albatross
Member
It's sad, but it doesn't surprise me. Fisher had been introduced to drugs at an early age and was in an industry that normalizes harmful drug use. A history of drug abuse does not change my opinion of anybody, either as a professional or an individual. It's sad that it contributed to her untimely death.
California, and most states, require that coroners reports are available to the public as the person doesn't fit a group of exceptions (typically, children, victims of gruesome crimes, or from people who successfully appeal the state on behalf of the deceased) and coroners offices are a public service.
It's considered important for public disclosure and especially for journalists. I'd tend to agree... If Coroner reports were only available to a select few (law enforcement, insurance companies, etc), it could impede justice (e.g., an insurance provider refusing to provide an insurance settlement based on information that only they're able to access; or law enforcement coming to a conclusion about an alleged wrongful death, etc).
California, and most states, require that coroners reports are available to the public as the person doesn't fit a group of exceptions (typically, children, victims of gruesome crimes, or from people who successfully appeal the state on behalf of the deceased) and coroners offices are a public service.
It's considered important for public disclosure and especially for journalists. I'd tend to agree... If Coroner reports were only available to a select few (law enforcement, insurance companies, etc), it could impede justice (e.g., an insurance provider refusing to provide an insurance settlement based on information that only they're able to access; or law enforcement coming to a conclusion about an alleged wrongful death, etc).
NealMcCauley
Member
Always viewed it more as a festival drug for 20 somethings.
Alter_Fridge
Member
For some reason I thought she had rehabilitated herself too.
Well, I really don't know what else to say here. Don't do drugs, kids?
Alter_Fridge
Member
Fair enough
Skellig Gra
Member
When you are a celebrity your entire life is a music festival for 20 somethings
Not as cleanly. What if you want to see if there are patterns in social media postings by people immediately preceding an overdose? And what if you have reason to think a coroner is incompetent or corrupt and she's fudging reports to cover up police misconduct or help people cover their murder tracks? In most jurisdictions, coroners are public servants by election or appointment, so their work belongs to the public.
Transparency matters.
radios shipping overview
Member
Ecstasy has been around for decades and doesn't just work on millennials.
Coz that would be fine
I'm not implying that that would be any better. That's just what I thought from the thread title.
While I am sad at her struggles, I absolutely admire how open and honest she was about them
Violence Jack
Member
I hate that she couldn't get the help she needed to get off of drugs completely. I thought she had kicked that habit long ago. So sad.
Damn, Carrie, not like this
I really don't understand posts like these. We knew she was on drugs in December when she died. We've always known she was constantly on drugs. She never hid this nor claimed to ever not be still addicted to drugs. T
Alter_Fridge
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Disney was paying her millions to reprise her role, and ended up making one of largest insurance claims in Hollywood history after her death. Given her history I'd be surprised if they didn't require medical proof she was clean before putting millions on the line.
rip Carrie
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Ecstasy, Coke, Heroine and Alcohol is some fucking serious partying.
It's a huge loss she has gone but what a way to go.
It's a huge loss she has gone but what a way to go.
Alter_Fridge
Member
Disney was paying her millions to reprise her role, and ended up making one of largest insurance claims in Hollywood history after her death. Given her history I'd be surprised if they didn't require medical proof she was clean before putting millions on the line.
rip Carrie
Carrie's comments the last few years make it pretty obvious she wasn't clean though.
Patrick S.
Banned
What's not to understand? I thought she was clean. It's not like I watch celebrity gossip and am up to date on what they are or are not doing all the time.
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
It was just an assumption. I wasn't keeping up with every story on her battle with depression and addiction.
Why does this bother you? I assumed she was clean but then find out she wasn't. That's all there is to it.
It has nothing to do with celebrity gossip. Carrie was extremely open about not being clean.
Honestly I thought this was the mantra of pretty much any addict-help program. That you are constantly fighting the addiction, you are always an addict, you never beat it. Even if you are "clean".
Patrick S.
Banned
Did she post about it on NeoGAF?
Dude, I don't live in America where she might have been on TV all the time.
Hari Seldon
Member
It is amazing she lived as long as she did going at it that hard.
We didn't know that, though. Everyone knew she did a shit tons of drugs, that was no secret, but no one knew she was still doing them. A big part of her drug story was the fact that she got clean but turns out that wasn't true.
Astral Dog
Member
Poor Carrie at least she left an incredible legacy despite her problems
huh
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