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Carrie Fisher's autopsy reveals 'cocktail of drugs'

Disney was paying her millions to reprise her role, and ended up making one of largest insurance claims in Hollywood history after her death. Given her history I'd be surprised if they didn't require medical proof she was clean before putting millions on the line.

rip Carrie :(

Why would she sign a contract that allowed that?
 

bill0527

Member
I'm a little confused as to why everyone thinks this is public record, the only thing part of public record is cause of death. The fact she had all of these other drugs in her system isn't really anyone's business. Maybe the laws vary state by state.

Just as an example, my mother-in-law, age 69, died 10 days before Christmas 2012. She passed away in her sleep. She had heart disease, sleep apnea, had 2 open heart surgeries and suffered a stroke in the previous 8 years. We did not have an autopsy done on her. There was no point. It could have been any of number of about 8 different things that caused her death overnight because she had many serious health issues. We were not forced to do an autopsy and her cause of death was listed as natural causes and signed off by her doctor on her death certificate.

I don't understand, unless its specifically California law, why the family would be forced to do an autopsy?
 

Cheebo

Banned
We didn't know that, though. Everyone knew she did a shit tons of drugs, that was no secret, but no one knew she was still doing them. A big part of her drug story was the fact that she got clean but turns out that wasn't true.

No that was never part of her story. She never once claimed to be clean.
 
I don't understand, unless its specifically California law, why the family would be forced to do an autopsy?

Laws do depend on the state. But also, if a patient has known health problems, or has been admitted to a hospice program, an autopsy is often waived automatically. In fact, that can be considered a solid benefit of hospice programs. Basically, it lets the medical examiner locally know that the person is expected to pass away.
 

TyrantII

Member
The heroin is surprising. The rest is not, given her history. Unfortunately, an addict is never a former addict.

Prescription pain killers are opioids.

Anyways, I'm still wondering if the exercise and dieting she had to do for the movies didn't help things. She wasn't in shape before Ep7, and was a chain smoker.

Add it all up and it ain't good.
 

cr0w

Old Member
Prescription pain killers are opioids.

Anyways, I'm still wondering if the exercise and dieting she had to do for the movies didn't help things. She wasn't in shape before Ep7, and was a chain smoker.

Add it all up and it ain't good.

Do y'all just not read the articles or what?

The test results ”suggests there was an exposure to heroin, but that the dose and time of exposure cannot be pinpointed." Therefore we cannot establish the significance of heroin regarding the cause of death in this case."
 

Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
No that was never part of her story. She never once claimed to be clean.
I'm not sure if she ever claimed to be clean, but anything time she spoke about her drug use, it was all from when she was young and not about the present. Look at this thread to see how many people thought she was clean, or how all the reports of her using drugs are about her "relapsing", it was thought she was clean by a lot of people.

For someone who was so open about herself, especially when it came to drugs, she sure didn't talk about how she was still using.
 
Really heroin is on another level above ecstasy and cocaine in terms of danger

Anything you need to inject is next level and a lot easier to overdose/die from

Snort a line of cocaine or have half a pill - not really that bad comparatively

Heroin is no joke, but you don't have to shoot it. Can be smoked.
 

TyrantII

Member
Addiction is not neccesarily about "partying".

Addiction/drug abuse is usually frequently "self medicating" underlying mental issues. Dig deep enough and you'll find it in almost every case that the abuse is to negate confronting another very unpleasant truth.

Carrie was pretty upfront with how messed up she was from a mental health view, which was pretty courageous.
 

cr0w

Old Member
Why was it so hard to pinpoint in this case?

I'm assuming that they may have done hair follicle testing or something besides blood tests that would show drug usage long after it's left the bloodstream. All it would do is show the person had used it at some point in the past, but there wouldn't be a way to tell when or how much.

I'm not very well-versed in drug testing methods, though, so this is purely speculative on my part.
 

Audioboxer

Member
I can never understand still partying so hard out of your 20s. The older I got hang overs would last 2 days.

When you have all the money in the world it's incredibly easy to get whatever you want at any time. Most likely always high quality/pure stuff. While that in one sense is "best" so you aren't buying shit mixed with gods knows what or just lower end substances. It also means stronger, purer and often quicker for your body to get hooked on and demand in a constant intake.

Ultimately, addictions destroy the lives of any person, no matter their income. It just so happens that when money isn't an issue addictions to "higher end" drugs are more likely. Often leading to cocktails of high-end drugs too which is a big concern. That's what often kills a lot of people, mixing a lot of shit together. It's why soo many stars, actors, musicians and so on end up overdosing or having careers full of substance abuse. It's the easy way out to the struggles of life, and if money isn't an issue it breaks down one barrier many lower down the food chain have trying to sustain addiction to the higher end substances. Even if it's not about escaping life's problems, it's getting hooked on the ridiculous highs some drugs can give. Highs which are hard to genuinely reproduce in life through other means.

Even with all we try and do to help addicts, people ultimately make their own decisions. The risks you take with using drugs for fun, or using them as a coping mechanism for life are always well known. It's not always about education, although that is still required to aid people in making choices in life they know the consequences around. While I do not support any war on drugs or obsessions over making personal use have disproportionate charges/sentences, I do not get behind some who have such a carefree attitude around all drugs that they almost make a mockery of the millions struggling with substance abuse/addiction. It's good for you if you're convinced you can handle coke every week like a boss at parties, but that doesn't change the properties of the substance, effects or what it can do to many addicts lives.

I'm doing a fair bit of work on addictions in my line of study right now. Fascinating, but, as always, sometimes heartbreaking to see what can end up happening to people.
 

Condom

Member
Really heroin is on another level above ecstasy and cocaine in terms of danger

Anything you need to inject is next level and a lot easier to overdose/die from

Snort a line of cocaine or have half a pill - not really that bad comparatively
Smoking heroin is safer than cocaine or ecstasy (talking about usage). So method of use is very important.
 
I'm assuming that they may have done hair follicle testing or something besides blood tests that would show drug usage long after it's left the bloodstream. All it would do is show the person had used it at some point in the past, but there wouldn't be a way to tell when or how much.

I'm assuming it's like this for all overdose victims then? If not, why was Carrie different?
 

jelly

Member
A shame she never stayed off drugs, I wonder if she was clean for long periods of time but always went back. I would be surprised if that wasn't true, she would have died earlier if she was on it all the time.
 

TyrantII

Member
Do y'all just not read the articles or what?

It's a Anon leak. It probably said opioid and some idiot threw down heroin to sexy up a headline.

Celebrities typically don't do heroin because their access to pain killers is much easier.
 

cr0w

Old Member
It's a Anon leak. It probably said opioid and some idiot threw down heroin to sexy up a headline.

Celebrities typically don't do heroin because their access to pain killers is much easier.

It's not an anon leak though? Literally every outlet is reporting heroin in her system, directly from the coroner's report.

http://variety.com/2017/biz/news/carrie-fisher-autopsy-cocaine-heroin-ecstasy-1202470282/

I'm assuming it's like this for all overdose victims then? If not, why was Carrie different?

I don't know, I'm not a coroner. There's probably slightly more interest in Carrie Fisher's cause of death than someone who ODs under a bridge.
 

Chococat

Member
Why do they have to make the details public? They should have stopped at " we found drugs in her system ".

Shels already dead and there was no foul play. What's the point?

She was open about her drug abuse and fight with it. This does nothing to discredit her.

It sad that she lost against her vices.
 
How can you not have known that about her?

I thought it was well known, she talked quite openly about it.

How is this possible?

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Except the real-world has a much more grim punchline, unfortunately.
 

Eppy Thatcher

God's had his chance.
I don't think i've seen her appear once in public for the last like 10 years without thinking - "Yea... she looks a little spaced for sure..."

Disappointing. Feels like that 2nd round of growing star power kicked in and her body wasn't quite ready to handle that lifestyle again. So many crazy triggers/opportunities for addicts in an environment like that...
 
Really sad to hear.
I thought she was clean for decades (?), but I guess she might have relapsed. :(

Addiction is no joke and it can continue to affect recovering addicts for the rest of their lives.
 

cr0w

Old Member
The thing about addiction is that it takes less than zero effort for something to trigger you into using again.

My wife has had addiction issues in the past, and we have to make an effort on a daily basis to keep her from relapsing due to there being easily available prescription drugs around. There's no such thing as "therapeutic" levels of medication to an addict. Once they get one taste of a high, they basically turn into a drug-fueled version of Cookie Monster.

It's a constant, never-ending struggle.
 
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