brandonh83
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SapientWolf said:
fuck good news!
Castlevania Demo Impressions Thread of EU PSN+ Exclusivity
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fuck good news!
Tears For Fears
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The demo is like getting a really good BJ, only with a surprise twist. (She swallows)
RustyNails
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...ShinobiFist said:
sorry to be a dick, but it's must've, shortened version of must have.
SlasherJPC
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How do you get burned out on God of War combat when only a few games even use such a thing? Just seems like someone saying they get tired of first person shooters, but then again... the market is FLOODED with those. :lol
As for Castlevani. I have my limited edition paid off. Only limited edition I'm getting this year for the simple fact that I haven't been this excited for a Castlevania game in FOREVERRRRR!!!
As for Castlevani. I have my limited edition paid off. Only limited edition I'm getting this year for the simple fact that I haven't been this excited for a Castlevania game in FOREVERRRRR!!!
LowParry
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I really don't get why people get up in arms about it being this God of War clone. There aren't that many games out there that use God of War's formula. I bet if we saw a Indiana Jones game that used the same sort of whip mechanic in terms of graphic, people will be calling it the same thing. A God of War clone. :lol
Day 0 people! Buy and support this masterpiece!
Day 0 people! Buy and support this masterpiece!
brandonh83
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CcrooK said:
No, it would be a Lords of Shadow clone.
hey_it's_that_dog
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slasher_thrasher21 said:
God of War combat is on the shallow side. It's exactly the kind of combat people would easily get tired of. (And I say this as a big fan of the series.) Your point about FPS games makes similarly little sense. The market is flooded and many people are tired of them. This is not contradictory. There are enough people to support a flooded market (for now) and also a group who is tired of the genre's prevalence.
Joe Shlabotnik
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hey_it's_that_dog said:
Except no one calls FPSs "clones" of anything anymore. It's almost like if there were fifty more God Of War-type games out, it would be called a genre and Castlevania wouldn't get dinged for it.
brandonh83
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Joe Shlabotnik said:
Badda bing!
SlasherJPC
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hey_it's_that_dog said:
Well personally for me God of War isn't even all about the combat. Its the settings, the epic set peices, the puzzles, and the platforming. Regardless of the combat being shallow or not, its not all there is to the game in my eyes. Also just like others said, FPS are not even considered clones. People don't say Halo plays just like Call of Duty, vice versa, or etc.
depths20XX
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slasher_thrasher21 said:
Because FPS games are a genre to themselves. It would be more like if every FPS game used bullet time. Or if every online FPS game played like Quake, which they don't. Some people don't like the mechanics of the God of War fighting and don't want it used in other games.
Mr. B Natural
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Joe Shlabotnik said:
Nobody calls Fps's clones these days? Really? It is the most pravelent critique of most fringe fps's (that aren't as frequent as hivemind Gaf would think).
God of War clone is not a genre. It never will be. That's not the definition of genre. And I hate to break this to you, but even if it was, that wouldn't protect an uninspiring unoriginal game from being mocked for being uninspiring and unoriginal. What does protect a game like that from being properly critiqued is -
1. Being a well known popular IP (nostalgia)
2. High production values (money)
3. Extreme amount of hype and marketing (money)
4. Being made by a well respected publisher/developer (nostalgia)
RedStormSublime
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Mr. B Natural said:
I find this discussion really interesting - was God of War a Rygar (ps2) clone? Or is it not because Rygar (ps2) wasn't popular? Is every third person shooter with a parrot camera (over the shoulder) on left trigger a clone of RE4? What about all the third person shooters with cover systems, are they clones of Gears?
I'm curious, what specifically makes this new Castlevania a GoW clone, and not just another game with light-heavy attack based combat?
GeorgioCostanzaX
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slasher_thrasher21 said:
I've always wondered about the logic there as well: as far as I'm concerned the world needs more Zelda, GOW clones and fighters but FPS and sports gamers always seem to always cry loudest about genres they they don't understand.
Conan was probably the first next-gen example of a blatant GOW clone and I actually liked it.
The water/rain effects and the lightning were just incredible. As for the game it self... loved it! Skyrocketed from maybe a latter buy to an instant pre-order. The combat was rather simple but the upgrade system hinted to a more deep experience further in the game. I would love to play a puzzle part in the demo, but this little taste was enough for me. The art of the book and Patrick Stewart voice work were just the cherry on top!
Congratulaciones MercurySteam!
Congratulaciones MercurySteam!
brandonh83
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RedStormSublime said:
I don't think people are being unfair by calling it a God of War clone. I think they're being unfair by using it as a negative, and I think they're being unfair in that there is more to the game than the combat. The combat is similar to God of War. That's about it. It's not some horrible thing.
hey_it's_that_dog
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RedStormSublime said:
I think the primary reasons that people see this as a GOW clone are that the primary weapon is a ranged melee attack, and GOW is a mainstream touchstone that comes easily to people's minds.
That said, I don't think this game is as close to GOW as some are claiming. The attacks look as much like Lament of Innocence as they do GOW. The way the orbs hover in the air until they are actively absorbed and can be used for offensive purposes is more like Ninja Gaiden than GOW. The movement speed is not the same as GOW (whereas in Dante's Inferno it was) nor is the basic combo (whereas in Dante's Inferno it was a near identical sequence of horizontal and vertical slashes).
Some things that stand out to me as being inspired directly by GOW are the horseback riding sequence and the boss QTEs. Also the health fountains.
In sum, while there are similarities, I think people are selectively ignoring some key differences.
Raging Spaniard
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Its not like GoW isnt a Castlevania clone in 3D ...
brandonh83
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Raging Spaniard said:
God of War is a Lament of Innocence clone only with a better camera and with a lack of repeating hallways.
brandonh83
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Game Analyst said:
Tuesday.
brandonh83
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Game Analyst said:Awesome. I am really looking forward to playing this demo.
Me too, but it does sound like it won't really represent the full game that well, considering that it's just a combat demo more or less. Still excited to see how the combat handles.
FunkyPajamas
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I'm also looking forward to it, although most of the people posting in the thread haven't been completely positive. It seems the demo was poorly chosen or is an old build and the final game is a lot better. So keep that in mind in case you're looking forward to the game as well.Game Analyst said:Awesome. I am really looking forward to playing this demo.
abstract alien
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Is this game 30fps or 60fps?
HomerSimpson-Man
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MacBosse said:
Yeah, now that's a twis....wait, WTF?!
Segata Sanshiro
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It's really not, though. Castlevania, as in Actionvania, is not a concept that anyone has figured out in 3D yet. It's like Sonic the Hedgehog or Mega Man. The best you can really do is to try to take some of the beats of the old games and make something new that works with it.Raging Spaniard said:
God of War has virtually no difficult platforming, the combat is focused on managing attacks between multi-hit opponents who try to overwhelm your health (as opposed to Castlevania's opponents who are largely there to knock you into a goddam pit), and the bosses are ridiculously simplistic affairs compared to Castlevania's challenging battles. People always said God of War was like a 3D Castlevania and to me the only reason why is because the main character fights monsters using a whip-like weapon and that's pretty much it.
God of War's old-school ancestor is Double Dragon, not Castlevania.
Which doesn't mean it's not okay for a 3D Castlevania to take after the 3D brawlemups like God of War and Ninja Gaiden, before anyone jumps down my throat. In the absence of figuring out how to bring the gameplay of the old stuff to 3D, I'm more than happy to take a good game with different gameplay and similar artistic style.
abstract alien
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Yes!!! Blim is so damn awesome when it comes to captureCcrooK said:Blim should give us the goods with videos
Sevket-Erhat
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My avatar is ready for Castlevania: Lords of Shadow
AgentOtaku
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2real4tv said:
thanks!