BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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The bosses here shit all over the first one. Without a shadow of a doubt. LoS1 had fucking terrible bosses. I'd say about 85% of the bosses in this game are superb. The rest are passable.
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Castlevania Lords of Shadow 2 - |OT| - Dead and Loving It!
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SlasherJPC
Banned
Def true, but I still would say this game is the closest to a proper SOTN in 3D versus the other 3D games, so that's cool in my book. I'll talk a bit more about that in my review video!
Finished it.
Castle levels are, in general, better than what LoS1 has to offer with the improved combat. At first i thought the lack of hit stun on enemies was faulty design, but when you start mastering weapons you get insanely strong and that would make it EVEN easier. Too bad modern stuff is so...oddly designed, paced and straight up boring sometimes. Boss battles are a joy to play and watch, but still fall a bit on the easy side. Stealth sections have no use in this game, there are many other (better) ways to show a lack of power. Also, LOLPLOTWAT.
Castle levels are, in general, better than what LoS1 has to offer with the improved combat. At first i thought the lack of hit stun on enemies was faulty design, but when you start mastering weapons you get insanely strong and that would make it EVEN easier. Too bad modern stuff is so...oddly designed, paced and straight up boring sometimes. Boss battles are a joy to play and watch, but still fall a bit on the easy side. Stealth sections have no use in this game, there are many other (better) ways to show a lack of power. Also, LOLPLOTWAT.
I can't make sense of the timeline, aside from the terrible plot, if the prologue happened many years after the end of MoF when Dracula is "defeated" by alucard and simon, i thought the castle crumbled? Still, a game that has Dracula riding an ignited fuel container into a wall is....something to talk about.
brandonh83
Banned
I thought the bosses in the first were amazing, specifically: Brauner, Carmilla, Olrox, Pan, and Satan. Olrox in particular was a lot of great fun. However, yeah, the bosses in this game trump those without a doubt, and that's saying a lot.
The final boss in this game is phenomenal.
fighting a Satan-possessed Alucard on a falling Leviathan in the earth's atmosphere with the sunset is just godlike
I dunno. I had some problems with this one, but I definitely want more. I want more 2D Castlevania, but if we're to get another 3D one anytime soon, I'd want it to be a follow-up to this.
How about dat agreus.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
Member
The penultimate boss was waaaaaay cooler than the final boss. That was a super fun fight. I didn't like the final boss as much, they should've exploited
Alucard's powers
brandonh83
Banned
Still just going through the city getting secrets. I got the castle down but f you science district and your 30 items.
Backtracking through the city definitely makes you realize the flaws in the level design. The sections feel cobbled together and there are so many loading sections (at least they aren't terribly long.
Going to beat it tomorrow hopefully, looking forward to the last few bosses considering most have them have been great. Kinda wish this game had a boss rush mode of some sort.
Backtracking through the city definitely makes you realize the flaws in the level design. The sections feel cobbled together and there are so many loading sections (at least they aren't terribly long.
Going to beat it tomorrow hopefully, looking forward to the last few bosses considering most have them have been great. Kinda wish this game had a boss rush mode of some sort.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
Member
Yup.
Shmuely Bully
Member
Feels like I just took a real gut punch, I'm pretty POed with Mercurysteam for how poorly they treated one of the characters.
Victor Belmont. How do you introduce a Belmont of all people with an awesome fight like that and then just kill him off without even having him defend himself? Fuck that!
I loved his design too. Really weird how quick that all went.
I got passed Carmilla earlier and really have no desire to keep going. It pains me to say it, but I'm just not enjoying this game at all. I'll probably go back to it before I send it back to Gamefly, but I popped in Thief and am enjoying it way more right off the bat. Severely disappointed with how this turned out after waiting so long and being so hyped.
Need help again guys...
Just got the chupacabra out of the cage, and crossed over into the area with the flying medusas or whatever the hell they are, lol. Got to the fight at the top of that area with the two big guys, and then there's a door to which I don't have the key. Back in the chupacabra room there was also a door to which I didn't have the key, and back in the Room of the Damned there was a door above the wolf portal to which I didn't have the key!! Is this all the same key? If not, where's the one I need to proceed in the area were I defeated the two big guys??
Sanctuary
Member
He looked way cooler, but the fight was a lot easier from the very beginning.
Do you mean
harpies
keys drop off of the Jailers (huge guy in armor with a hammer). They have plenty of chances to spawn on the path that leads to that castle like structure, and beyond that you reach by travelling across one of the chains that connects to it. That's actually past the Chupacabra room. The Jailers also *sometimes* spawn in that circular room that has the blood pool in the middle. There's a really easy path to take to farm keys later on, but you aren't at that point yet. And yes, the locks all require the same key.
Discotheque
Banned
pretty much sums up this whole game. everything feels so rushed.
that was definitely my favorite boss fight of the game though.
since you were essentially facing LOS1 gabriel belmont
â Narayan
Member
Just beat it. I gotta say, they really dropped the ball with the story on this. It just fizzles out so quickly. The end boss was alright.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Damn this game has SUCH A GOOD opening!!
Why did they give GUNS to the enemies? Argh!
Is there an easier way to deal with groups of them all firing at me at once? I feel like if I block, something will come at me with an unblockable attack that forces me to "dodge" (which really means, leave my open to getting shot). I don't have a way to close the distance either, and every gun hit makes me flinch, or knocks me down only to allow some other demon to keep taking shots at me when I'm already on the ground.
That last bit is particularly frustrating because the opposite is not true whatsoever. Trying to pull off a Yx8 to completion is near impossible when enemies hardly flinch at all, or just proceed to chain red unblockable attacks at me.
What am I missing?
Is there an easier way to deal with groups of them all firing at me at once? I feel like if I block, something will come at me with an unblockable attack that forces me to "dodge" (which really means, leave my open to getting shot). I don't have a way to close the distance either, and every gun hit makes me flinch, or knocks me down only to allow some other demon to keep taking shots at me when I'm already on the ground.
That last bit is particularly frustrating because the opposite is not true whatsoever. Trying to pull off a Yx8 to completion is near impossible when enemies hardly flinch at all, or just proceed to chain red unblockable attacks at me.
What am I missing?
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
Member
Your not missing anything, this game was designed by monkeys.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
At what point is this game suppose to get ugly and bad?
Just recovered the Void Sword and so far it's been pretty great.
Gorgeous with lots of diversityVariety so far, and its only been like three hours.
Just recovered the Void Sword and so far it's been pretty great.
Gorgeous with lots of diversityVariety so far, and its only been like three hours.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
Member
If you like it at this point, I imagine you'll like it even more by the end.
This is a good, yet terribly flawed game. It's not bad really.
Most of the gun enemies are weak. Clear them out with an AOE Chaos attack (L2+Triangle & Counter+Triangle both great and high damage). Alternatively, dodging works against shotguns, as does mist form. Most of it can be blocked. Bullets also stop if there's something between you, so move behind other enemies or pillars and they'll take the hits for you. As far as closing distance goes, you have void projectile to slow/stop them and bats to distract them so you have time to get in close. Alternatively drop an hourglass so you can just run and dodge. There's also a mist + chaos move that covers long distances.
Game gives you a lot of tools, you just have to think about what's right for the current situation because there's a lot to consider. General strategy is to quickly clear out weak/projectile enemies with Chaos, recover any damage with Void then kite/counter the last 1-2 enemies to build back your meters. If you allow yourself time to get mobbed, you'll die.
You know, I hadn't even considered using the bats in combat. I'm still a little stuck in the LoS1 combat where reading patterns and counter spamming got me through the hardest difficulty, while even the small guys in LoS2 with the assault rifles can be a real nuisance with that brute force strategy. Thanks for the tips!
Stuck at 97% lore. I see there's a diary near where you defeat the
in the Overlook Tower, but I'm unsure you can get back there..
I've gotten to the point where seeking the lore out has gotten quite unfun, so I may just stop there and call it a wrap. Or go into PoD mode and worry about it later.
second acolyte
I've gotten to the point where seeking the lore out has gotten quite unfun, so I may just stop there and call it a wrap. Or go into PoD mode and worry about it later.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
Member
It seems somebody on ps3trophies.org is going to compile a lore list within the next couple of days, you could wait for that.
Hmm, it would be cool if they manage to line up which lore pick up is which entry in the menu, that way you could know what exactly you need. Could take a while, though.
I feel that the game should give you some idea of where to look. It doesn't have to "dodo bird" directly to them, but maybe put an icon on the mini map indicting when you've got them all, ocarina of time skulltula style. But in the grand scheme of things it's not important. Just a number in a menu.
I have to disagree in about every way possible
Just finished it.
Stealth sections were bullshit. I could kinda understand having to avoid the guards at the beginning, but it gets stupid once you get to the point of having punched a hole through a giant demon a few minutes before. Agreus was an asshole, didn't take me much longer than 7-8 minutes, but still very annoying. Some of the bosses were pretty cool, but some were also pretty boring.
Stealth shit aside, it was pretty fun. Not the best thing I've played this year, but not the worst. Fuck the shotgun demons though. Fuck them and the train they rode in on.
Stealth sections were bullshit. I could kinda understand having to avoid the guards at the beginning, but it gets stupid once you get to the point of having punched a hole through a giant demon a few minutes before. Agreus was an asshole, didn't take me much longer than 7-8 minutes, but still very annoying. Some of the bosses were pretty cool, but some were also pretty boring.
Stealth shit aside, it was pretty fun. Not the best thing I've played this year, but not the worst. Fuck the shotgun demons though. Fuck them and the train they rode in on.
â Narayan
Member
I figure they kept us from directly fighting Satan in this title because Gabriel fights him in LoS1 as a human and royally fucks his shit up. Obviously Satan stands no chance against the Dragon when he's recovered his full strength, so he has to go the cheap route and possess Alucard to go toe-to-toe.
Still, the outcome was definitely not what I expected.
I suspect we will get some DLC for a true conclusion. Total bullshit.
Overall, I enjoyed the game about as much as LoS1. If I were a reviewer, I'd definitely give this a 7-8.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
yeah that was uh
Anyway, I got to this
Storm Riders
Goodbye, MercurySteam.
Sanctuary
Member
Bullets/acid spit can shoot through cars and walls. I also love it how the wraith type enemies have sniper like accuracy and can hit you two or three times after you've entered a new area from below, before you can actually see them. They are easy enough to kill one on one, but en masse are annoying as hell. Yeah, you get "the tools" to take them out quickly after you're actually able to reach them through their projectile spam. Those mini Abaddon's also have that ectoplasm/telekinetic skull attack that goes right through any enemy (and does nothing to them) while hitting you if you're too close.
Neff
Member
I'm always hesitant to label bad game design without at least figuring out all alternatives and exploring all possible redeeming qualities...
But this leaves section is just an unmitigated disaster of logic, mechanics and player agency.
Other than this one blip, the game ain't bad at all.
But this leaves section is just an unmitigated disaster of logic, mechanics and player agency.
Other than this one blip, the game ain't bad at all.
Ok need help at an early boss that name starts with M
Help please...this fight has been going on way too long.
At medusa...when she sticks her hand into the ground what am I supposed to do? I tried jumping on it hitting it with all weapons and watched a youtube...where he froze her hand...how exactly do I do this? I am on 360...cant seem to get the void power to work...don't know how to do it I guess.
Dave Cox, ladies and gentlemen, pretentious as ever. I don't think anyone will be debating this game 3 months out, let alone years to come.
Finished. The Final Boss sucked hard.
Never will touch this game again. It wasn't that fun at all. It's definitely playable, good combat system, but the low points bring this game to a non-essential/regular score for me (6~7/10). Something that I should have never wasted all my money on.
The story is terrible. Good for people who love the twists (which you can see coming from a mile, every single one of them except who's the final boss on the first game) and all, but it's just as bad as any old Castlevania game (I think that at least it's maintaining the tradition of having shitty story allied with serviceable gameplay).
I won't even talk about the music. 5 pieces that I still remember after I finished the game, 4 of them being battle themes and the other one being the Chupacabra shopping theme.
Alucard and Victor, completely useless characthers. COMPLETELY USELESS. Why the hell are they even on this game?
There's 0 extra content after you finish this game. No need to replay it at all. Finished it with 100% and I don't want to play it ever again.
Shitty ending, that doesn't isn't really a ending at all.
The Castle areas are fantastic, they should be longer, though. Also, the level design could be a lot better. Lot's of shit platforming (AKA shimming, fuck you POP, for destroying skill based 3D platforming forever). The bosses are the best part of this game, pretty fun to kill. Wish they had a boss rush mode on this.
Well, at least LoS is finished after this game (and the promised DLCs). Can't wait to see what Castlevania will be next. I'll conveniently forget everything about Lords of Shadow.
Never will touch this game again. It wasn't that fun at all. It's definitely playable, good combat system, but the low points bring this game to a non-essential/regular score for me (6~7/10). Something that I should have never wasted all my money on.
The story is terrible. Good for people who love the twists (which you can see coming from a mile, every single one of them except who's the final boss on the first game) and all, but it's just as bad as any old Castlevania game (I think that at least it's maintaining the tradition of having shitty story allied with serviceable gameplay).
I won't even talk about the music. 5 pieces that I still remember after I finished the game, 4 of them being battle themes and the other one being the Chupacabra shopping theme.
Alucard and Victor, completely useless characthers. COMPLETELY USELESS. Why the hell are they even on this game?
There's 0 extra content after you finish this game. No need to replay it at all. Finished it with 100% and I don't want to play it ever again.
Shitty ending, that doesn't isn't really a ending at all.
The Castle areas are fantastic, they should be longer, though. Also, the level design could be a lot better. Lot's of shit platforming (AKA shimming, fuck you POP, for destroying skill based 3D platforming forever). The bosses are the best part of this game, pretty fun to kill. Wish they had a boss rush mode on this.
Well, at least LoS is finished after this game (and the promised DLCs). Can't wait to see what Castlevania will be next. I'll conveniently forget everything about Lords of Shadow.
Krusenstern
Banned
Maybe you forgot to select the ice projectiles by pressing "up" on the d-pad when equipping the Void Sword.
As for my part I'm loving this game. How anyone can give this game a mediocre score is beyond me.
The quality is inconsistent though. The boss battles and castle areas are the where the game really shines, but the modern day areas lack behind. Not to speak of the enemies in the modern world (
Mutants with shotguns and police squads equiped with jetpacks and robotic armor.
What I really liked was the whole section with the T
oy Maker
I can't enforce enough how good the music in this game is. Some tracks are real earworms. I need to find out what the name of these songs are.
Krusenstern
Banned
Wait, we're getting DLCs for this game?
I haven't read anything about multiple DLCs, but one was discovered via the file name of a music track in the game files:
Alucard DLC