Welp, maybe don't help get PP elected with illegal consultations, work with other parties on the national level for needed changes in the constitution, I don't know. I didn't vote for the rightwing so I did my part. That sort of thing would imply a more widespread and unitary sentiment, which is evidently lacking. The unilateral and plebiscitarian nature of everything that has been done in the last ten years proves otherwise. And the involvement of public officials in the creation and distribution of propaganda is baffling to me. So many rallies and "state" propaganda man.
i understad and would support that. But let's be realistic. The only political party that may help change the constitution would be Podemos, the rest, including the leftwing (so call themselves) are absolutelly against anything that 'breaks' the Nation.
In fact this independence thing has been rising since Catalonia voted the estatut, more than 10 years ago and it was destroyed by the Spanish Goverment and its armed arm, the 'Constitucional'.
There's not a single sign from Spain that we can reach any kind of agreement unfortunately, it wasn't with the Estatut, and since then well, things have gone worse,
And may i ask, what do we have to do? We have asked to do it a number of times, with the same answer, NOI, and last Generalitat election JPS was born to be as much legal as it could be done being an official election. ANd they just follow what they said the would do.
One thing is clear to me, there's no way this goes back. And a solution is needed.
Our solution is a referendum to ask the population. But this can't last forever until it 'fades', as the Spanish goverment seemsgo after.
It won't fade.
This is false, unless you just focus on far right wind media like La Razon, 13 TV... This is like saying that everyone in Catalonia hates Spaniards, another thing that is false. (and I say this as a Catalan that got shit with one guy at Madrid just for telling him I was Catalan, but also a lot of others treated me nicely).
About the referendum, i'm the first that I want to vote, but also in a referendum with warranties for everyone. You say you feel excluded, imagine what they think the people that wants to vote No yet they see they're making a referendum without any warranty for them.
I say let's do it, but let's do it right, and for everyone in Catalonia.
It is not only la razon. TVE, La Sexta, Cuatro, T5, A3, El pais, Elperiodico,,,,,,,
But i wasn't saying everyone hates us, just the feeling we get here most of the time from most of the media.
ANd you want to vote, as much as i want. But who is not allowing this. That is the clue, if that gets solved, The situation will start to find a solution.
And regarding this "show", shame on those politicians breaking the law while claiming democracy, they're doing no good to their people, it's embarrassing.
One thing is democracy, and another thing is legality.
Please tell me how? You guys manage your own education system, health system, your autonomical law enforcement among other things. Hell, see the basques in this thread, the different languages and cultures in Spain are pretty much respected by the rest of the country and guaranteed by the constitution, and it's fact that during all these last decades not only those languages have been preserved, they are improving the number of speakers.
Many of us feel we need a change on how things are. Basque country has a much better deal than the other CCAA. And being respected by COnstituion is nice, but that also needs to extrapolate to the real world. We feel that is not the case. We may be wrong of course, but again, is how we feel, and that needs to be respected. We don't feel comfortable, that's it. We do not need to justify why, really, we just want to leave. Let us vote.
