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[Razgriz-Specter]

Well we still got

I guess

I've never watched this show (and somehow I doubt I ever will), were the Asian actors as prominent in the show as the white ones? Pretty fucked up if so. Good on them for leaving, I'm sure it's not easy to walk away from work.

They were main cast but no,
the two leads drive around and do everything while talking to them on the phone and they show up for shoot outs/raids.

Every now and then they get a focus episode or two but thats about it.

Its probably something like
O'Loughlin >>> Caan > Park > McBride > Kim >>> Garcia

 

[KillLaCam]

So. They do know the demographics of Hawaii? The Asian actors would be the most important people for the show...

 

[Shaanyboi]

Well we still got

I guess

Is he still way into Subway?

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Is he still way into Subway?

LOL, was so bad.

 

[Camper Van Beethoven]

Well we still got

I guess



They were main cast but no,
the two leads drive around and do everything while talking to them on the phone and they show up for shoot outs/raids.

Every now and then they get a focus episode or two but thats about it.

Its probably something like
O'Loughlin >>> Caan > Park > McBride > Kim >>> Garcia

If this is the case why is it such an outrageous sin they’re not paid as much?

 

[LiK]

The only two people worth watching are gone. I hope the show's ratings shit the bed.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

I want to say that if you were to ask the average American, more people would recognize Daniel Dae Kim over Scott Caan or Alex Whatever.

With CBS's demographic and especially Hawaii 5-0's, Caan is probably the most known to them being James Caan's son.

 

[Sarcastic Poster]

Respect to them for leaving.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

If this is the case why is it such an outrageous sin they’re not paid as much?

The real sin was having these two great actors and hardly using them as they have.

7 season of the Danny & McGarrett thing in nearly every episode, they really should have switched the others in often.
Honestly the thing that actually brought some life back to the show was adding

as a main cast member

 

[GoutPatrol]

If this is the case why is it such an outrageous sin they’re not paid as much?

I'm guessing the real issue was the back end points. That could be an extra eight figures over the deal. They don't give that out to everyone.

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

'Women and minorities earn less because they don't negotiate as hard'

*Women and minority actors negotiate for equal pay*

'Couldn't be helped, we had to go a different direction'

Sigh...

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

Never watched the show, but isn't Daniel like the main guy? Disgusting.

 

[Night.Ninja]

Privilege card perks

Grace is sexy very sexy

 

[Joni]

Alex and Scott where's the solidarity? Say what you want about the Big Bang Theory cast, but the whole principal cast took a pay cut so that Mayim Bialik and Melissa Rauch would make equal pay to the rest.

No. They make half of the others now. It is a significant raise but nowhere near the five others, with the three leads making a percentage point as well. Mayim also said you shouldn't believe everything about those negotiations.

 

[danthefan]

They were main cast but no,
the two leads drive around and do everything while talking to them on the phone and they show up for shoot outs/raids.

Every now and then they get a focus episode or two but thats about it.

Its probably something like
O'Loughlin >>> Caan > Park > McBride > Kim >>> Garcia

Less outrageous in that case I guess.

I suppose you still have the issue that the two white guys got the main parts. Daniel Dae Kim is awesome.

 

[Q8D3vil]

Probably going for one last hurrah season before it get canned. im surprised it lasted this much.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Never watched the show, but isn't Daniel like the main guy? Disgusting.

No, he was originally #3 but was then jumped by Grace Park.(Grace Park was continuously climbing from her introduction)

And the last few seasons he was jumped by Chi McBride.
Masi Oka and Jorge Garcia are the only major cast below him.

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

Except Asians earn more than white men on average.

 

[ShellyDeKiller]

Never watched the show, but isn't Daniel like the main guy? Disgusting.

Nope. Alex O'Loughlin is THE main guy. If he leaves, the show may as well be over. Scott Caan is his partner.

In this show nobody is near O'Loughlin's level of importance IMO. There is no way they were going to earn the same as him, even if they were white.

 

[_Ryo_]

Never been to Hawaii but dont Asians make up like 60% of the population there? Its gonna be a weird depiction of Hawaii if theres a huge decrepancy... Or are there others Asians on the show and these were major characters? Either way, shame on CBS. Its beyond sad that race plays more into salary than actual acting quality.

 

[HStallion]

Dear White People season 2 with only white people would be interesting.

Never been to Hawaii but dont Asians make up like 60% of the population there? Its gonna be a weird depiction of Hawaii if theres a huge decrepancy... Or are there others Asians on the show and these were major characters? Either way, shame on CBS. Its beyond sad that race plays more into salary than actual acting quality.

White folks coming in and crowding out Asians and Polynesians in Hawaii? I don't believe it!

 

[nel e nel]

they deserved equal pay if not more imo. Both of them were in very huge shows and they were way more relevant at the time than the other two when this show started imo.

I don't know what you're talking about, Scott had a promising music career before he got sidetracked:

https://youtu.be/16phjLFcH-4

 

[RipperGrim]

It's insane that they weren't being paid the same from the get go but for it to have never changed and now resulting in them leaving? Ridiculous

 

[Creaking]

Good on them for not settling for less.

 

[GlitchyDegree]

Don't fuck with Johnny Gat. But seriously good on them for not taking that crap from CBS.

 

[Jorok Goldblade]

Well we still got

I guess



They were main cast but no,
the two leads drive around and do everything while talking to them on the phone and they show up for shoot outs/raids.

Every now and then they get a focus episode or two but thats about it.

Its probably something like
O'Loughlin >>> Caan > Park > McBride > Kim >>> Garcia

Also of note: O'Loughlin, Caan, Park and Kim have all been there since season 1, and I believe are the only remaining original cast (Masi Oka was also original cast). McBride and Garcia came in around season 3.

 

[lightskintwin]

Dear White People season 2 with only white people would be interesting.

That sounds like sketch comedy gold right there.

 

[Diablos]

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/daniel-dae-kim-grace-park-hawaii-five-0-1202484329/



Might as well can the fucking show. *vomit*

Seriously! CBS messed up.

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

I’ve never watched the show, so how pivotal were the two exiting actors to the series versus those who are staying? How often were they central characters?

 

[Schucky Ducky]

And Daniel was on Lost , and had one of the more compelling stories

The scene where Jin visit's his Dad gets to me every time. Great performance. It's horrible how CBS is treating him.

 

[Zok310]

All the Asian actors should follow them and bounce right off that shit. See how long the show last with them gone.

 

[SArcher]

I’ve never watched the show, so how pivotal were the two exiting actors to the series versus those who are staying? How often were they central characters?

Just Google the show and go to images. They were two of the four main cast members.

 

[therealist]

Not when you compare within the same occupations or educational attainment.

This studies says that you are wrong.

Even controlling for education, white men still out-earned most groups, according to the report, except for Asian men.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-a...rsists-asian-american-men-top-average-n602076

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

Just Google the show and go to images. They were two of the four main cast members.

I figured DDK was pretty pivotal, since I remember seeing him in ads back when the show first came out.

I’ve never heard of any of the other folks of any color.

 

[danthefan]

All the Asian actors should follow them and bounce right off that shit. See how long the show last with them gone.

It's easy to say that on the internet sure but you're talking about people giving up their livelihoods.

 

[SparkleMotion]

It really is important to be born white in this world.

 

[GK86]

Man, fuck CBS. Good on the actors for not giving in on this bullshit.

 

[Ouroboros]

People have started to call it Haole 5-0

I dated a girl from Hawaii and I get that joke.

 

[old manatee]

Good for them. It's fucking ridiculous that Daniel Dae Kim can't get paid on Scott 'Mad Skillz' Caan's level.

 

[The Last Wizard]

It's cbs, look at their lineup of shows.

 

[hirokazu]

Gross.

Why is this still a thing.

 

[SparkleMotion]

Serious question: if you're white, why would you want to see a non-white person on your TV more than a white person?

 

[Sojgat]

Serious question: if you're white, why would you want to see a non-white person on your TV more than a white person?

InspiroBot?

 

[Theonik]

Honestly I don't understand the rational here at all. Surely they can see that the reason Hawaii Five-0 has been running for as long as it has is because it offers something different in terms of the diverse cast. The setting and the Asian team members gave it something different. No one is watching the show for the Subway ads.

Can't fucking pay them more? I don't get it. Sigh.

You overestimate the sense of those companies, but also underestimate the fact that this industry is a cartel. The companies think they can strong-arm the way into it on the understanding that 'what are you going to do about it' many people who speak out against this sort of thing simply end up never getting work again.

Now, the other part of course is that their actions indicate that they fundamentally don't agree about your opinion on the value of a diverse cast. Ratings will tell whether they are correct or not.

 

[cartographer]

Serious question: if you're white, why would you want to see a non-white person on your TV more than a white person?

There's a disconnect between the first two words of your post and the rest of it.

 

[old manatee]

Serious question: if you're white, why would you want to see a non-white person on your TV more than a white person?

At the very least diversity is just more visually interesting.

 

[rjinaz]

'Women and minorities earn less because they don't negotiate as hard'

*Women and minority actors negotiate for equal pay*

'Couldn't be helped, we had to go a different direction'

Sigh...

Lol yeah. Republican talking points are always a fallacy. It's not because lower pay, it's because they don't want the pay as bad as the White men do! It's somehow always the fault of the people with the disadvantage.

 

[MsKrisp]

Wow fuck CBS. And there's no natives near lead roles either. Ugh. Well hopefully these actors can take much better roles now.

 

[RS4-]

DDK and Grace are more relevant and legitimate than the two mcwhities that are raking in more money.

 

[sixteen-bit]

The funny thing about this is that Caan has a deal where he only has to appear in half the episodes because he wants to spend more time on the mainland. So they were fine paying him the same money to do less, but not the "ethnic" supporting cast who had to work more to make up for his absences.

Wow that's super shitty.